INDIAN ARMY CHIEF The War Mongerer!

[anand]

I simply do not understand why Pakistan is tolerating such insults or vilifications day after day since the Mumbai incident. No country perhaps shows such tolerance the way Pakistan is showing. India even before finishing its commando operation during the Mumbai incident started accusing Pakistan. Without starting the investigation and much before even when the operation itself was yet to be finished, india had begun throwing insulting stones to the Pakistani side. Pranab Mukherjee started labeling false charges on Pakistan and crying before all the countries of the world to gain sympathy and support. One Pakistani Islamic well-fare organization got banned by the UN as india persuaded the big boss America to fulfill india's childish demand.

indian media is continuously making BRAINWASHED Mindset to stall public opinion and national conscience. Enough damage has been done to the image of Pakistan worldwide due to the systematic psychological campaign by indian media. Now it is very clear that as it was Taj Hotel and one major shareholder of the Taj is Ratan Tata who is now a good friend of Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi (infamous for his genocide on Muslims) has invested a large amount of money after being influenced by Narendra Modi before the Parliamentarian election, in the indian media to spread the anti-Pakistani propaganda. Narendra Modi was also associated with the culprits who bombed Samjhuta express. Thus, as an affected shareholder of the Taj, Ratan Tata came to be influenced by Narendra Modi, and Ratan Tata tried to recover the loss by using media, as he invested, and Modi also persuaded Tata to invest so that media's attention to Malegaon Blast would be diverted and also his eletoral campaign before the election would be half done by one strike. Such kautilyan chankyan strategy can be deployed but communists are not so stupid, because much more difficult and complex phenomena we study, when we study Marx-Engels and Mao and it is therefore nothing.

But the question is why Pakistan lets her image be maligned in a cheaper way. Akhir kiyun aisi zillat se jina? Everybody is taking Pakistan as weak after Pakistan's tolerance to india's constant empty threats... Pakistan has shown enough tolerance, now she must teach a good lesson to the jingoist india. In 1971, india showed deliberate adventurism and cut off Pakistan's one hand, Pakistan showed tolerance, then india started building dams on rivers like Chenab, blocking the natural flow of water to Pakistan, Pakistan again showed tolerance.... I just do not get what this kind of Gandhigiri for...
Google Image Result for http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0diC3WF9wZgy4/610x.jpg

substantiate your claim by proper proof. Tata laded in Modi's gujarat because communist government could not protect his interest in West Bengal.
So, Modi's gain is someway helped by communist government of West Bengal.
Regarding, what India said and what Pakistan said after mumbai attacks, there are hundreds of threads running on this subject. To sum up in one line, diplomatic war is going on right now and it seems to be free for all (check Ex-army chief Musharaf's statement).

 

[Communist]

substantiate your claim by proper proof. Tata laded in Modi's gujarat because communist government could not protect his interest in West Bengal.
So, Modi's gain is someway helped by communist government of West Bengal.
Regarding, what India said and what Pakistan said after mumbai attacks, there are hundreds of threads running on this subject. To sum up in one line, diplomatic war is going on right now and it seems to be free for all (check Ex-army chief Musharaf's statement).

The question of West Bengal's communist government's failure has nothing to do with the evil nexus between a war-criminal and presently Chief Minister of Gujarat, Narendra Modi and Ratan Tata, because the communist government had no idea beforehand about the would-be evil nexus. Also it is not only Ratan Tata, one of the largest shareholders of Taj's hotel business, but also many other individual hindu industrialists who invested a large amount in the Mumbai based corporate media industry to spread anti-Pakistani propaganda. Now as I said before, Narendra Modi has just been exploiting the resentment of those hindu shareholders having made them convinced that it was Pakistani based terrorists who committed the crime. And media is also exploiting in its own way by selling out sensational news and increasing TRP rates whereas Congress is trying to gain out of the incident in terms of vote bank, as majority Muslims of india know, if anyhow, BJP comes to the ruling, it will again do another Bubri Musjid type mass genocidal crime in the name of taking revenge. Thus every anti-Muslim hindu forces, whether of corporate type, or political type or mere orthodox religious type, is trying to exploit the Mumbai incident and to serve own respective interests, but at the cost of Pakistan, at the cost of Muslims.

This is really a great challenge to the Muslims across this continent as this kind of evil nexus is gradually appearing a great danger to the existence of the Muslims.

Do not lose confidence, my Muslim brothers, you are not alone, we true communists are with you, we humanists are with you, we Maoists are with you, we will win.....

 

[anand]

The question of West Bengal's communist government's failure has nothing to do with the evil nexus between a war-criminal and presently Chief Minister of Gujarat, Narendra Modi and Ratan Tata, because the communist government had no idea beforehand about the would-be evil nexus. Also it is not only Ratan Tata, one of the largest shareholders of Taj's hotel business, but also many other individual hindu industrialists who invested a large amount in the Mumbai based corporate media industry to spread anti-Pakistani propaganda. Now as I said before, Narendra Modi has just been exploiting the resentment of those hindu shareholders having made them convinced that it was Pakistani based terrorists who committed the crime. And media is also exploiting in its own way by selling out sensational news and increasing TRP rates whereas Congress is trying to gain out of the incident in terms of vote bank, as majority Muslims of india know, if anyhow, BJP comes to the ruling, it will again do another Bubri Musjid type mass genocidal crime in the name of taking revenge. Thus every anti-Muslim hindu forces, whether of corporate type, or political type or mere orthodox religious type, is trying to exploit the Mumbai incident and to serve own respective interests, but at the cost of Pakistan, at the cost of Muslims.

This is really a great challenge to the Muslims across this continent as this kind of evil nexus is gradually appearing a great danger to the existence of the Muslims.

Do not lose confidence, my Muslim brothers, you are not alone, we true communists are with you, we humanists are with you, we Maoists are with you, we will win.....

Just for information, Ratan Tata is parsi. Can we go back to the topic?

 

[Communist]

Just for information, Ratan Tata is parsi. Can we go back to the topic?

Yes Ratan Tata is a Parsi and a businessman (baniya). You are right. But Narendra Modi and others are hindus. Do not worry, I am well informed. Ok lets go to the topic.

 

[Bane Blade]

You only see what you want to see

After reading your post I can see you are no different plus our cheif doesn't go around yelling to people that he will cut economic ties with the enemy he does his duty and talks about things he is in controll of and how kind of you to mention that the Indian officials don't utter B.S. when you hear people like Air Marshal P K Barbora, Air Officer Commanding-in-Chief of Western Air Command saying that neighbouring country namely Pakistan is scared of the capabilities of the Indian Air Force (IAF) and the other tosh that keeps coming out from the other side of the border.

 

[Bull]

We are also MORE than ready for War-ALWAYS...but we don't monger, sir.

PS: One reason could be that the world knows/acknowledges Pakistan Army's capabilities. i suppose the india army is in doubts here....

Why would you want to go to war? We are fed up with the 'elements' that come from Pakistan and create destruction inside our country. Your leaders have also made equal statements, check the press.

 

[batmannow]

All options open but no need for war hysteria: Indian general
January 15, 2009 Thursday Muharram 17, 1430
dawn news.com

By Jawed Naqvi


NEW DELHI, Jan 14: The head of the Indian army said on Wednesday that it has noted Pakistan’s movement of some of its troops to the border with India in the wake of the Mumbai attacks and acknowledged there had been an increase in tension.
Gen Deepak Kapoor, however, told reporters that although New Delhi was keeping all its options open, military action would be the last resort.
“We are keeping all options open. There is no need for war hysteria,” General Kapoor said. “Waging war is a political decision,” he stressed.
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has said action against terrorists and not war was the issue with Pakistan. British Foreign Secretary David Miliband this week praised India’s restraint as the right approach.
Gen Kapoor said Pakistan had moved some troops from Federally Administered Tribal Areas to its border with India. “Movement of Pakistani troops has been factored in India’s planning. We are keeping all options open — diplomatic, economic and as last resort fighting option.”
The army chief added: “There is troop movement from western Pakistan but we are prepared. Strike formation around Indo-Pak border in December is routine.”

Speaking on the issue of getting India ready to deal with the threat of terrorism, Gen Kapoor said that every combat unit in the country must have the capability to fight all forms of urban terror and threats to its internal security.

He said India’s military chiefs had factored this as part of its operational planning and so there was no need to, as he put it, “whip up war hysteria”.

Meanwhile, asked to respond to Prime Minister Yousuf

Raza Gilani’s comments in parliament on Tuesday, Indian Foreign Minister Pranab Mukherjee observed that Pakistan continued to remain in denial.

“There is a continuing pattern of evasiveness and denial in Pakistan’s response to the terrorist attack on Mumbai,” he said. “We have asked their government to undertake investigations in Pakistan and to share the results with us so as to bring the perpetrators to justice. We await a response from the Government of Pakistan.”

Instead, Pakistani leaders at high levels were issuing statements to the media. “These reinforce the already strong doubts which exist on Pakistan’s stance on terrorism from Pakistan, and on its capacity and willingness to cooperate with other countries against terrorism. Pakistan must fully implement its international obligations under various legal instruments on terrorism.”

 

[ejaz007]

Army ready to meet any challenge: Kayani
By Iftikhar A. Khan

ISLAMABAD, Jan 15: Chief of the Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani said on Thursday the Pakistan Army was fully prepared to meet any challenge.

In what appeared to be a tit-for-tat response to a statement by the Indian army chief that New Delhi was keeping all options open, General Kayani said at the 62nd Formation Commanders’ Conference that the threat could best be defeated through a comprehensive national effort.

According to a statement issued by the Inter-Services Public Relations, General Kayani said he was satisfied with the efforts made by commanders for training and operational preparedness.

He reaffirmed that the spirit of sacrifice and high morale of troops were reassuring for the defence of the country.

The corps commanders, principal staff officers and formation commanders, who attended the conference, were given a comprehensive briefing on the prevailing security environment.

Army ready to meet any challenge: Kayani -DAWN - Top Stories; January 16, 2009

 

[jamesy]

statements on both sides are just for domestic consumption and to reassure the ppl.
lets not bicker over it.

@communist
your theories about the 'mumbai' are amazing, but not many ppl will agree with you.
do you think nawaz sharrif would carry out a 'marriot' to win elections? wat you suggested about modi(bjp) is very similar.

 

[anand]

I think we are too harsh in declaring Army chief a war monger. He is a soldier, if yuu ask a politician (Manmohan Singh or Pranab Mukherjee) he will tell that war is not solution. But, think if army chief tells that there should not be any war, then it will come in media as "ARMY CHIEF NOT READY FOR WAR". Army chief will always say "I am ready for war". We are also forgetting that he said "It is up to political leadership to take decision, but army is ready". I think he is fair enough in his comments.

 

[jamesy]

I think we are too harsh in declaring Army chief a war monger. He is a soldier, if yuu ask a politician (Manmohan Singh or Pranab Mukherjee) he will tell that war is not solution. But, think if army chief tells that there should not be any war, then it will come in media as "ARMY CHIEF NOT READY FOR WAR". Army chief will always say "I am ready for war". We are also forgetting that he said "It is up to political leadership to take decision, but army is ready". I think he is fair enough in his comments.

yes, I agree with you. but the whole issue is why issue a statement at all?
media should not pester army chief with such questions either.

if india wants to make a war, do it........but why unnecessary rethoric, especially when war is a distant possibility.

the same applies to gen kiyani, infact he should be more responsible in his statements since he is more powerful in pakistani establishment then the indian gen in out setup.

 

[Zaheerkhan]

What was said

What it actually meant

,, nothing like a joke when the morale is down..!! Enjoy the moment.

 

[XYON]

,, nothing like a joke when the morale is down..!! Enjoy the moment.

If that is your ''spaced out'' way of saying thank you for the correct reading between the lines! then you are most welcome!

We Pakistanis have been enjoying the 'moment' from Day 2 of Mumbai Mow Down just about the time you and your elected politicians started making a fool of themselves in front of the whole world!

Its good for us Pakistanis to have the last laugh though! But do not worry, it ain't ending here, thanks to your Government's drama-baazi and crying wolf, KASHMIR issue is back on track and David Miliband just woke your lazy-*** politicians up by giving a statement in your own backyard!

 

[Xeric]

Why would you want to go to war?

Look who is talking...
Is it Pakistan who wants war..???
Come on sir, check the press.

We are fed up with the 'elements' that come from Pakistan and create destruction inside our country

And what about the elements that create destruction inside Pakistan??? We know how to reciprocate certain things.and i personally feel that india needs to update its strategy...thinking that using the same kind of players as india did in 2001/02 will achieve the same kind of goals as india did achieve after the escalation of 2001/02, then i must say you people are slightly mistaken.