Indian army chief expresses reservations over Waziristan operation

[Sam Dhanraj]

Don't fly into a tizzy of bashing the Pak media over this.

The link was to the 'News Updates' section of 'The News'.

They usually post small and concise updates in that section, as the news breaks, and later provide more details as they become available.

So your latter comment is completely out of place and a 'distortion to serve your own bias and propaganda'.

Still it did not stopped the respected posters like Agno and Sir fatman to comment like .......

Should he not have expressed reservations about the possibility of terrorists attacking India then, instead of reservations about the operation intended to eliminate the terrorists?

Weird.

^^looks like the Indian chief got nothing to do !!!

So in a way Geo TV served its purpose by twisting the news to aam admi as well as Think Tanks at the same time...

This is how media in both nations probably work when it comes to news related to each other.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Still it did not stopped the respected posters like Agno and Sir fatman to comment like .......

Can't speak to FM's comment, but my response was more to Skeptic's rationale than the 'update' itself.

So in a way Geo TV served its purpose by twisting the news to aam admi as well as Think Tanks at the same time...

This is how media in both nations probably work when it comes to news related to each other.

I disagree - the aam admi will typically stay tuned into TV, and so long as a more comprehensive story follows, will correct his opinion, as did the TT and mods this time around.

Contrast that with not just an erroneous 'blurb' of news, but full length features carried by many major Indian papers and TV stations, and then parroted by the Indian political leadership, about 'Musharraf admitting to diverting US aid and saying he didn't care if the US found out'.

Now that is an example of misleading the aam awaam, not just from a poor representation of a story because you posted a couple of lines to get it in as quickly as possible, but deliberate distortions and perhaps even outright lies over several weeks.

That is the kind of stuff that really manipulates the 'aam admi'.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Well... I went through other "updates" and they seemed to be adequately informative with proper citations. Somehow this piece wasn't.

The updates vary - some have details and others do not. Often many 'breaking news' type updates will have very little detail, one line or so.

For example the recent terrorist attacks would initially be reported as 'loud blast heard in Kohat. Investigations are on'.

And then it gets expanded as more details come in, so the blurb about the Army Chief is not something specifically done to distort his position and portray a negative impression of India, in this case at least.

Anyways... that was my opinion. Indian media isn't very great in this regard either.

It's a result of trying to be the first out there with the story I suppose, and context and accuracy becomes a casualty.

But it is deliberate distortions like those of Musharraf's comments that are the real issue.

 

[Skeptic]

But it is deliberate distortions like those of Musharraf's comments that are the real issue.

Yeah, and so was the theory of Afghanistan Dossier being given to India.
Oh come-on AM, both are crooked and just seeking eyeballs.

Twisting stories, facts and statements has become an essential tool for any south Asian political journalist. Is Hamaam main sab nangey hain.

PS: For a man on HIATUS you surely are very active.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Yeah, and so was the theory of Afghanistan Dossier being given to India.
Oh come-on AM, both are crooked and just seeking eyeballs.

I would compare the dossier story more to the stories implicating Pakistani institutions in the aftermath of Mumbai that the Indian media ran with, often sourced from the ubiquitous 'anonymous intelligence/security source'.

It could be the journalists just lying, but I think it more likely that the establishment in both nations fed the media with those stories to serve their own purposes.

I think twisting Musharraf's words and deliberately and continuously propagating that distortion is a step beyond the above incidents. I mean, didn't Indian FM Krishan just a week or so ago in NY repeat that same line again? That Musharraf admitted to 'diverting aid'?

Twisting stories, facts and statements has become an essential tool for any south Asian political journalist. Is Hamaam main sab nangey hain.

PS: For a man on HIATUS you surely are very active.

Lol on the hiatus part, can't stay away. I am not moderating much though - only when I see stuff on threads I post on.

But sure, the media on both sides is extremely jingoistic.

 

[Khajur]

Don't fly into a tizzy of bashing the Pak media over this.

The link was to the 'News Updates' section of 'The News'.

They usually post small and concise updates in that section, as the news breaks, and later provide more details as they become available.

So your latter comment is completely out of place and a 'distortion to serve your own bias and propaganda'.

Come on,these sort of code snipet without disclosing the context can easily create misunderstandings like we saw here...Everybody including urself started bashing the poor IA chief with out caring to find out on what context he expressed his reservations on PA operations.

 

[Khajur]

I would compare the dossier story more to the stories implicating Pakistani institutions in the aftermath of Mumbai that the Indian media ran with, often sourced from the ubiquitous 'anonymous intelligence/security source'.

Give me one instance where indian media proved wrong on the aftermath of mumbai attacks...be it the nationality of Kasab or the story of Rehman chacha of LeT which is an alias for Lakhvi, that got ridiculed in pakistan...but later on both cases are turned out to be true and even pakistan accepted that.

Now about implicating Pakistani institutions...that always been the official line in india even if pakistan choose to disagree on that.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Give me one instance where indian media proved wrong on the aftermath of mumbai attacks...be it the nationality of Kasab or the story of Rehman chacha of LeT which is an alias for Lakhvi, that got ridiculed in pakistan...but later on both cases are turned out to be true and even pakistan accepted that.

You mentioned it yourself:

Now about implicating Pakistani institutions...that always been the official line in india even if pakistan choose to disagree on that.

The Indian media was full of stories, and still is, of the ISI, Pakistan Army, Pakistan Navy, SSG, SSG(N), all being involved in Mumbai and elsewhere.

Recently they carried another story on 'Pakistan Army pushing captured Taliban into Kashmir', which was also debunked, by India's own Home Minister Chidamabaram.

And add to that the story I already mentioned about Musharraf's comments, which was till last notice still being propagated by the GoI and Indian media. These are just the high profile cases I remember.

And the Pakistani media did carry reports on investigations into Kasab's town etc. Some by their own reporters, and in other instances they re-published investigative reports by the Western media into Kasab's origins.

So the Pakistani media never censored information, so long as it was coming from a credible source.

 

[DaRk WaVe]

Terrorism spreading in Pak: Antony

NEW DELHI: Warning that the situation in Pakistan is "very serious", defence minister A K Antony on Monday said terrorism is "spreading" in that
country and asserted that India is prepared to meet any challenge from Taliban militants.

"The situation in Pakistan is very serious and terrorism is spreading," he told reporters on the sidelines of the Territorial Army Day parade here.

Pakistan has been in the grip of a terror wave with six major attacks in the last fortnight by suspected Taliban militants, the latest being a suicide bomb attack in Peshawar in the restive North West Frontier Province on Friday last killing 14 people.

Asked if Talibans' threat to carry out attacks on India was a cause of concern, Antony said, "We are always prepared to meet any challenge to our territorial integrity and national security from any quarter. Our security forces are keeping eternal vigilance".

Replying to a query on Coastguard and Navy's joint operation 'Raksha', he said, "We learnt a lot of lessons from 26/11 last year. After that, now there is a coordinated effort for coastal security and Indian Navy and Coastguard are taking serious steps. Government is also giving all out support to strengthen them".

Terrorism spreading in Pak: Antony - India - The Times of India

 

[Iron_Eagle_17]

Can anyone care to elaborate how the talibans in waziristan can cause terror in India....Does Gen Deepak kapoor belive in HARRY POTTER kind of fantasy Apparation.This is entertaining......

 

[RescueRanger]

Give me one instance where indian media proved wrong on the aftermath of mumbai attacks...be it the nationality of Kasab or the story of Rehman chacha of LeT which is an alias for Lakhvi, that got ridiculed in pakistan...but later on both cases are turned out to be true and even pakistan accepted that.

Now about implicating Pakistani institutions...that always been the official line in india even if pakistan choose to disagree on that.

Like AM has already mentioned the Indian Media was full of wonderfully explicit stories, as were the busy bee's at BRF plotting the great pipe-dreams.

Media on both sides are Media, we dont call them vultures for nothing you know...

Now what's done is done, what's said is said. It is about as proposterous as the claims coming out of Iran, so all of a sudden they forget what they had been doing in Balochistan all these years...

Lets move onto matters that carry more weight then a limp biscuit about to fall into your tea, if you get my drift.