Indian Air Force says it can tackle Chinese J-20 jets

[Ultima Thule]

1. It is not stealths
2. It has poor engine and its maneuverability is poorer than 4 th generation fighter.
3. It has a poor A ESA radar not comparable totsame of either Russia's or of US or France or even with Israel.
4.EW nobody knows. It will not be able to match rafale for any foreseeable futuref
5.5weapons : not comparable to any of the best in the world.
6. Sensor fusion : even far behind 4th gen. Gripen.

Oh! Sh!t not that Unproven Sh!t thingy every new jet is a Unproven system you Sh!thead @HariPrasad and same applies to PAK-FA, F-35
then why you assuming if you don't have accessibility to J-20 Classified tech, Even pentagon and USAF show concern about J-20 capabilities as result they started 6th gen jet project , i have to say in your wishful thinking, Wet dream, Fantasy world and lala land @HariPrasad

 

[Hindustani78]

Yeah keep telling that to yourself while your own airforce is reluctant to accept LCA.

2 LCA production lines are already working in full swing and on that Fifth Generation fighter plane production line has even started.

 

[IblinI]

Oh! Sh!t not that Unproven Sh!t thingy every new jet is a Unproven system you Sh!thead @HariPrasad and same applies to PAK-FA, F-35
then why you assuming if you don't have accessibility to J-20 Classified tech, Even pentagon and USAF show concern about J-20 capabilities as result they started 6th gen jet project , i have to say in your wishful thinking, Wet dream, Fantasy world and lala land @HariPrasad

Why wasting time with keyboard warrior?

 

[sunstersun]

You cannot counter a fifth generation aircraft with anything other than another fifth generation aircraft. 10 S-400's and domestic sams spammed is probably the best bet along with a plane.

https://www.reddit.com/r/path%3D%252Fr%252FCredibleDefense%252Fcomments%252F6vsviz%252F

pretty good discussion on it.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Why wasting time with keyboard warrior?

Abusing retarded Indian is fun like @HariPrasad , @wiseone2 and @randomradio

 

[Figaro]

2 LCA production lines are already working in full swing and on that Fifth Generation fighter plane production line has even started.

Let's be honest here. It is a huge mistake for India to even procure the LCA. They'll be flying coffins in any air war with China. It would like China sending their J-6's and J-7's to fight your MKIs ... a total slaughter. India would be better to beg for more licensed aircraft ...

1. It is not stealths
2. It has poor engine and its maneuverability is poorer than 4 th generation fighter.
3. It has a poor A ESA radar not comparable totsame of either Russia's or of US or France or even with Israel.
4.EW nobody knows. It will not be able to match rafale for any foreseeable futuref
5.5weapons : not comparable to any of the best in the world.
6. Sensor fusion : even far behind 4th gen. Gripen.

What aircraft are you talking about? If it's the LCA, you really can't compare it to a 4th generation fighter. I would compare it to a heavily upgraded second generation or basic third generation fighter ... something out of a Cold War museum.

 

[terranMarine]

I can't believe how much trust Indians put in their beloved LCA. It's as if they are convinced it's the J-20 killer

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Canards,partial stealth,no supercruise and easily detectable heat signature engines.Formidable fighter,but it's no raptor.Rafale with meteor and S-400 will deal with it.

 

[Contract Killer]

Hahaahahaha my intestine turned inside out

Damn good FEELS

Like Chowmin?

 

[Ultima Thule]

Canards,partial stealth,no supercruise and easily detectable heat signature engines.Formidable fighter,but it's no raptor.Rafale with meteor and S-400 will deal with it.

So why it is main concern for USA,or India is better shupa dupa powa then USA, and NASA tested X-36 which was the canard delta wing design in late 90's calling it extremely stealthy, as for engine they working WS-15, WS-10 is a interim solution and how can RAFALE hide from J-20's radar and HQ-9 SAMS radars don't about SPECTRA its not a cloaking device and they have also S-400 on your border

 

[Figaro]

Canards,partial stealth,no supercruise and easily detectable heat signature engines.Formidable fighter,but it's no raptor.Rafale with meteor and S-400 will deal with it.

Nonsense. If you actually take a look at Carlo Kopp's J-20 RCS chart, you'll see it is better than that of the F-35 and Su-57 and has F-22 potential. And how do you k J-20 cannot supercruise? The J-20 pilots themselves have said its supercruse ability is excellent after the July 2017 parade. The new serrated nozzles will help reduce IR signatures. Perhaps do a little more research before making this many unsubstantiated claims???

Canards,partial stealth,no supercruise and easily detectable heat signature engines.Formidable fighter,but it's no raptor.Rafale with meteor and S-400 will deal with it.

I highly doubt that the Rafael is a match for the J-20, even with its excellent meteors. 5th generation fighter are meant to fight other 5th gen ... not 4th. And you're forgetting about Chinese A2A missiles, which are equivalent to their European counterparts. India may temporarily satisfy it's needs with foreign purchases, but at the end of the day, it has no domestic aviation industry. The last part alone will cause the defeat of the IAF against the PLAAF even without the J-20.

Like Chowmin?

More like that butter chicken

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

So why it is main concern for USA,or India is better shupa dupa powa then USA, and NASA tested X-36 which was the canard delta wing design in late 90's calling it extremely stealthy, as for engine they working WS-15, WS-10 is a interim solution and how can RAFALE hide from J-20's radar and HQ-9 SAMS radars don't about SPECTRA its not a cloaking device and they have also S-400 on your border

USA is concerned about everything,they were concerned about su-30 as well.And its not as if j-20 is not a threat,its obviously a big threat .But certainly counterable with assets in IAF arsenal or soon to be.I never said rafale will hide from radar ,Rafale however will have advantage in superior AAM (meteor),far better ECM in spectra and being a better dogfighter as well.J-20 only has frontal stealth,meaning its detectable at a distance by anything not directly in its frontal arc,further compromised by canards.It can't supercruise and needs to use afterburners,its engines are not shielded and thus easy to pick by IRST trackers,even more so in the cold himalayan air on the border area.

 

[Ultima Thule]

USA is concerned about everything,they were concerned about su-30 as well.And its not as if j-20 is not a threat,its obviously a big threat .But certainly counterable with assets in IAF arsenal or soon to be.I never said rafale will hide from radar ,Rafale however will have advantage in superior AAM (meteor),far better ECM in spectra and being a better dogfighter as well.J-20 only has frontal stealth,meaning its detectable at a distance by anything not directly in its frontal arc,further compromised by canards.It can't supercruise and needs to use afterburners,its engines are not shielded and thus easy to pick by IRST trackers,even more so in the cold himalayan air on the border area.

Yes sir meteor is formidable AAM but Chinese have a advance versions of SD-10 and developing PL-15 with a range of 200 km and anti AWACS and anti tanker,anti ISR VLRAAM with a range of 400 km, yes sir canard is bad for frontal RCS, so we assumed that j-20 will be using software to minimize RCS from its canard similar to ef-2000 and as i mentioned to my above post WS-10 using as a interim engine they developing WS-15 which will be ready in 2023 in the class of US F-119 so j-20 becomes fully stealth from the rear also in future sir

 

[seesonic]

Even the amercians arent making any bold claims on this mysterious aircraft they are unfamiliar with.

Looks like in SP2020 white man have to start working as waiters in SP2020

 

[sunstersun]

Rafale in its peak form is probably on par with J-20 at it's lowest form.