Indian Acquisition of Russian Akula

[Screaming Skull]

Russia concludes third stage of Nerpa sub trials in Far East​

23/09/2009

KHABAROVSK, September 23 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's Nerpa nuclear attack submarine, damaged in a fatal accident during tests in November last year, successfully completed the third stage of sea trials, the governor of the Khabarovsk Territory said on Wednesday.

"The submarine is in a good state of readiness and there is confidence that it will be commissioned on time," Vyacheslav Shport said.

The vessel resumed sea trials on July 10 in the Sea of Japan following extensive repairs.

On November 8, 2008, while the Nerpa was undergoing sea trials, its onboard fire suppression system activated, releasing a deadly gas into the sleeping quarters. Three crewmembers and 17 shipyard workers were killed. There were 208 people, 81 of them submariners, onboard the vessel at the time.

Following the repairs, which cost an estimated 1.9 billion rubles ($60 million), the submarine was cleared for final sea trials before being commissioned with the Russian Navy, and will be leased to the Indian Navy by the end of 2009 under the name INS Chakra.

India reportedly paid $650 million for a 10-year lease of the 12,000-ton K-152 Nerpa, an Akula II class nuclear-powered attack submarine.

Akula II class vessels are considered the quietest and deadliest of all Russian nuclear-powered attack submarines.

Russia concludes third stage of Nerpa sub trials in Far East | Top Russian news and analysis online | 'RIA Novosti' newswire

 

[Screaming Skull]

Nuclear sub Nerpa to enter service in December​

16/10/2009

VLADIVOSTOK, October 16 (RIA Novosti) - The Nerpa nuclear attack submarine will enter service with Russia's Pacific Fleet in December 2009 and will then be leased out to the Indian Navy, a high-ranking fleet official said on Friday.

The Nerpa, which was damaged in a fatal accident during tests in November last year, has been docked at the Amur shipyard's Vostok repair facility in the town of Bolshoy Kamen in Primorye Territory since the end of new sea trials following repairs.

"The submarine has undergone a range of sea trials, and [final] state tests will begin in late October or early November, after which the Nerpa will be adopted by the Pacific Fleet," the spokesman said.

He said a crew of Indian submariners would undergo a course of training together with Russian specialists and servicemen in early 2010.

They will subsequently operate on their own under the supervision of Russian instructors, after which the submarine will be leased to the Indian Navy under the name INS Chakra.

On November 8, 2008, while the Nerpa was undergoing sea trials, its onboard fire extinguishing system went off, releasing a deadly gas into the sleeping quarters. Three crewmembers and 17 shipyard workers were killed. There were 208 people, 81 of them submariners, aboard the vessel at the time.

India reportedly paid $650 million for a 10-year lease of the 12,000-ton K-152 Nerpa, an Akula II class nuclear-powered attack submarine.

Akula II class vessels are considered the quietest and deadliest of all Russian nuclear-powered attack submarines.

Nuclear sub Nerpa to enter service in December | Top Russian news and analysis online | 'RIA Novosti' newswire

 

[amunhotep]

India is likely to induct an advanced Akula-II nuclear submarine by january 2010.

this would mean that along with the arihant india will have it's second nuclear submarine operating in the indian ocean region

here is the link

ASIAN DEFENCE: N-powered Russian sub to be inducted in January

 

[gogbot]

more the merrier

 

[Chanakyaa]

Gr8 for IN. I think India should buy it, they do have this option at the end of the lease. Indian Navy look to have no match in next 10-20 Years in South Asia.

IN = Arihant+Akula+6 Scorpenes+Aircraft Carriers with Mig 29s
After all You cant make Nuclear Subs/Aircraft Carriers in a day. Min 10 Yrs.

 

[amunhotep]

i am not sure if it will the same nerpa aboard which there was a fire early this year

 

[AchtungSpitfire]

I remember reading that the Indian Navy already had an INS Chernobyl back during the Soviet days which was part of a lease arrangement. If this turns out to be true, this will be India's 3rd go at operating a SSN. Good luck and I hope your seamen are issued some lead underwear.

 

[sancho]

Gr8 for IN. I think India should buy it, they do have this option at the end of the lease. Indian Navy look to have no match in next 10-20 Years in South Asia.

IN = Arihant+Akula+6 Scorpenes+Aircraft Carriers with Mig 29s
After all You cant make Nuclear Subs/Aircraft Carriers in a day. Min 10 Yrs.

As far as I know it is forbidden to sell such nuclear techs (be it arms, or propulsions), that's why IN will lease the Nerpa and leased a charlie class nuclear sub before.
But the fact that we are able to build our own nuclear propulisons, will give us another possibility. We could get the hull and techs of the latest Graney class SSGN ( Graney class submarine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ) and integrate our own propulsion into it. Graney class should be able to fire Brahmos missiles too and IN don't have to develop a new design for SSNs, which needs more time.
Anyway the key is Arihant and the testing of the propusion. If that is done and no security issues are left, we must be able to develop better and more propulsions, for more subs and possibly carriers.

 

[Screaming Skull]

As far as I know it is forbidden to sell such nuclear techs (be it arms, or propulsions), that's why IN will lease the Nerpa and leased a charlie class nuclear sub before.

Contrary to general belief, selling or buying of nuclear submarines is not forbidden. There are no international treaties which prohibit trade in nuclear powered submarines. However, as part of the MTCR sale of nuclear powered subs capable of firing ballistic/cruise missile of more than 300 km is forbidden. That is why we had to build our own SSBN while we could lease an Akula-II (with option of buying it out after 10 yrs of lease).

 

[amunhotep]

i think the sale of nuclear submarines is allowed . otherwise how can brazil buy a nuclear submarine from france ?????????

here is the link

Confirmed: Agreement with France Includes the Brazilian Nuclear Submarine

 

[Chanakyaa]

i think the sale of nuclear submarines is allowed . otherwise how can brazil buy a nuclear submarine from france ?????????

here is the link

Confirmed: Agreement with France Includes the Brazilian Nuclear Submarine

France will be ASSISTING them to build a Nuclear Sub.
They wont be selling.

 

[Chanakyaa]

As far as I know it is forbidden to sell such nuclear techs (be it arms, or propulsions), that's why IN will lease the Nerpa and leased a charlie class nuclear sub before.
But the fact that we are able to build our own nuclear propulisons, will give us another possibility. We could get the hull and techs of the latest Graney class SSGN ( Graney class submarine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ) and integrate our own propulsion into it. Graney class should be able to fire Brahmos missiles too and IN don't have to develop a new design for SSNs, which needs more time.
Anyway the key is Arihant and the testing of the propusion. If that is done and no security issues are left, we must be able to develop better and more propulsions, for more subs and possibly carriers.

My Info abt this is sources From Wiki :

Lease to India

India is reportedly paying two billion dollars for the completion of two Akula-II class submarines which were 40-60% completed.[6] Three hundred Indian Navy personnel are being trained in Russia for the operation of these submarines. India has finalized a deal with Russia, in which at the end of the lease of these submarines, it has an option to buy them.The first submarine will be named INS Chakra.[7

 

[amunhotep]

France will be ASSISTING them to build a Nuclear Sub.
They wont be selling.

production under license falls under selling. example; india will be building all 6 scorpenes in india, under french ASSISTANCE. Now does that mean that france haven't sold the submarines to india???????

licensed production is different from indegenous development

 

[sudhir007]

production under license falls under selling. example; india will be building all 6 scorpenes in india, under french ASSISTANCE. Now does that mean that france haven't sold the submarines to india???????

licensed production is different from indegenous development

yes but Brazil put his indigenous Nuk reactor on it

 

[amunhotep]

Just wondering .........will the Akula submarine be for research purpose or will it be operational under lease ???????