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India would have to out-compete China to copy its growth model

India's manufacturing industry growth rate is around 1% for the first half year of 2017 ...Modi's "Make in India", as expected, ends up as a hollow slogan.

when u talk about china's development model, don't forget China in her early development stage, rarely used international loan to develop her own infrastructure. Most of those huge investments came from demestic debts,
thanks to Chinese people's high gross saving rate. When China developed her high speed rail system more than 10 yrs ago, she paid cash directly to international winning bidders, not dependent on foreign loans..... Everybody knows India desperately needs to improve their broken infrastructure, but the problem is where the money comes from?

Today's world is also quite different from when China at her early development stage. What is dominant today is protectionism, while 20 yrs ago, free trade was what people most likely talked about. 20 years ago, there was no country called China who dominated most of the middle to low end industries in the world. There were some similar economies at that time who were ahead of China, like South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, Hong kong, but their size were too small to block China's path. China, after all these years development, accumulates huge production and consumption advantage, produces and consumes more than the rest of the world combined on many basic products like iron, steel, cement....The per capita consumptions of those basic products indicate what development stage are you in, you need those stuff to build bridges, rail, highway, nice house (with toilets of course) for every ordinary person. FYI China's per capita consumption on steel is still much lower than her east Asian neighbors Japan S korea and even Taiwan. When India talks about surpassing China, or becoming next China, please first take a look at their steel production to see if it is comparable to Today's China, the number is around 0.9 billion tons in 2016, out of 1.6 billion tons of global production, equivalent to 0.67 ton per capita for China. If India cannot reach this number, there is no way to provide decent living standard to the ordinary people.
 
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http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/hub/business-china-special/spore-is-chinas-largest-investor

Singapore is China's largest investor- and Temasek Holdings 淡马锡控股 is the single largest foreign investment entity there.

The investment company has a huge portfolio of investments in China and is a major shareholder in Alibaba, Tencent, Baidu, Industrial and Commercial Bank of China, Bank of China and China Construction Banking Corporation.

Foreign media often term the company as a 'sovereign wealth fund'- as the sole dividend recipient of the company is the Ministry of Finance of the Government of Singapore, with its CEO being none other than Ho Ching, the wife of the PM of Singapore, Lee Hsien Loong.
 
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http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/hub/business-china-special/spore-is-chinas-largest-investor

Singapore is China's largest investor- and Temasek Holdings 淡马锡控股 is the single largest foreign investment entity there.

The investment company has a huge portfolio of investments in China and is a major shareholder in Alibaba, Tencent, Baidu, Industrial and Commercial Bank of China, Bank of China and China Construction Banking Corporation.

Foreign media often term the company as a 'sovereign wealth fund'- as the sole dividend recipient of the company is the Ministry of Finance of the Government of Singapore, with its CEO being none other than Ho Ching, the wife of the PM of Singapore, Lee Hsien Loong.
Singaporean Chinese are among the biggest oversea Chinese players in China's economic development.
 
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Companies need to have faith in a certain market in order to be enticed into sinking investments into it.

Singaporean goverment had the faith in the Chinese market n is now reaping the returns.

So pertaining to the topic:

Do foreign companies have the faith to sink funds into India?
 
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But Indians take Sashi's words as gospel. Here we have a discussion between an Indian and an Englishman about China and India. I find it rather amusing the arguments Sashi used are similar to what the Indian members here are using. They are convinced of China crashing, CCP disintegration, social unrest, political instability, no democracy etc. and we have Martin Jacques who has a positive and optimistic view of the ascension of China.

Sashi is convinced India has cultural export: Bollywood & Yoga , what's China got he ask (sounds familiar here in PDF? :lol:) He also said China is not innovative compared to Western world.
This Sashi is supposed to be a high intelligence Indian using the same bs as Indians here. Pathetic country.
 
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Companies need to have faith in a certain market in order to be enticed into sinking investments into it.

Singaporean goverment had the faith in the Chinese market n is now reaping the returns.

So pertaining to the topic:

Do foreign companies have the faith to sink funds into India?
Maybe the question is for the Indian diaspora, do they have the faith to sink funds into India? Very little evidence of that so far around the world. The big difference between China and India is Chinese diaspora understand how to do business in China, India government is just good at robbing anyone and do nothing. India and China do have similarities, elites have billion stashed off-shores. China can afford it, India not so much.
 
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Indians are some of the most annoying on YouTube.

Look at the comments on how India will become no.1.


Blaming the British.


India like to use PPP to calculate national economic strength. Next time, India should import oil in PPP terms. PPP is useless in measuring national strength.
 
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Maybe the question is for the Indian diaspora, do they have the faith to sink funds into India? Very little evidence of that so far around the world. The big difference between China and India is Chinese diaspora understand how to do business in China, India government is just good at robbing anyone and do nothing.
On 'faith':

Temasek holdings started investing in China back when the latter was just starting to open up during Deng Xiaoping's era.

This was an unstable n volatile period of Modern China's economic history as nobody was sure of how it's '开放'(aka opening) reforms would turn out(remember this was in the early 1980s). It could either turn out to be as disastrous as the Cultural Revolution or striking the jackpot.

A large part, or all- of the fundings for Temasek holdings comes from the goverment revenue of Singapore and CPF, a mandatory income-based 20% contribution by every Singaporean citizen who earns 500 SGD/mth and above;

E.g For every dollar i earn, 20cents will have to go into my CPF account, which will then ultimately make its way, via the Ministry of Finance- into the funding capital for Temasek Holdings, of which like i said can be considered to be a sovereign wealth fund- or as some would describe it- a shining example of State Capitalism.

Thus, big or small- this ultimately makes every Singaporean citizen an investor of China.

Hence, with it's citizens money at stake, the company, with full confidence- took the leap of faith and started investing in various segments of the Chinese market.

Out of its entire global portfolio, China takes up 25% of the pie. For comparison, India as a full market economy right from the very beginning of its inception- sits at a mere 4%(so ya, via my CPF- im somehow an investor of India myself)

This is the 'faith' aspect of attracting FDI.

Huge pool of unskilled young population(aka lack of educational investment), lack of 4+lane trunkroad highway networks, lack of Panamamax harbors, lack of 10000+ boardings/annum primary hub airports, lack of R & D in domestic defense industry(even here in tiny Singapore, we have a thriving MIC), lack of expeditious corporate setup protocols- even lack of toilets.

How do u expect others to invest in you, when don't invest in yourself first?

My pov is the cultural lack of attention to prioritise education in india.

How do u explain the similarity shared amongst East asian-populated countries, which includes China, Chinese Hong Kong, Chinese Taiwan, Korea, Japan and Chinese-majority Singapore.

1)All of them adhere to Confucianism that highly values education.

2)All of them devote large percentages of their GDP into R&D

3)all of them are heavily-entrenched in the electronics industry

4)All of them have some of the highest amounts of patents filed in the world.

5)All of them prioritises building infrastructure. Here in Singapore, you can reach a MRT/LRT station within a 10km radius from where u are.

6)All of them control the world's shipping industry- the lifeline of international trade.

7)All of them control the world's finances with China having 12 banks in the top 50 largest banks by total assets.

8)All of them have highest average IQs in the world from A)East Asian genetics, B)a pro-education culture, C)a pork-heavy diet

9)All of them have a strict philosophy of self-accountability n work ethics. You blame only yourself when something goes wrong. Japan has the strictest work ethics in the work.

So in order for India to compete, she has to prioritise on investing heavily into educating here young people.

@MOD y am i being moderated again in far east section?
 
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India like to use PPP to calculate national economic strength. Next time, India should import oil in PPP terms. PPP is useless in measuring national strength.
India uses PPP when comparing the economy size China vs. India; but when it goes to China vs. US, they all use nominal term GDP. I like their logic!
 
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India uses PPP when comparing the economy size China vs. India; but when it goes to China vs. US, they all use nominal term GDP. I like their logic!
PPP is not IQ, they should be more obsessed with the latter to improve themselves.
 
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I suspect their diet may have some negative impact in this regard.

Pork is highly-enriched in copious amounts of amino acids and glutamic acid- which upregulates human cognitive functions via the glutamate-nitric-oxide pathway(cGMP).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutamate_receptor

Glutamate receptors are synaptic receptors located primarily on the membranes of neuronal cells. Glutamate (the conjugate base of glutamic acid) is abundant in the human body, but particularly in the nervous system and especially prominent in the human brain where it is the body's most prominent neurotransmitter, the brain's main excitatory neurotransmitter, and also the precursor for GABA, the brain's main inhibitory neurotransmitter.[1] Glutamate receptors are responsible for the glutamate-mediated postsynaptic excitation of neural cells, and are important for neural communication, memory formation, learning, and regulation.

Glutamate receptors are implicated in a number of neurological conditions. Their central role in excitotoxicity and prevalence in the central nervous system has been linked or speculated to be linked to many neurodegenerative diseases, and several other conditions have been further linked to glutamate receptor gene mutations or receptor autoantigen/antibody activity.


Glutamates are also the salt esters of glutamic acid that gives the Umami taste(鲜味) aka the 5th taste, very common in East Asian cuisine, but rarely found in other cuisines. this is the reason why people from all over the world are particularly fond of Chinese cuisine- because they can hardly experience this 'Umami' taste in their own food:

"Umami (/uˈmɑːmi/), or savory taste, is one of the five basic tastes (together with sweetness, sourness, bitterness, and saltiness).[1] It has been described as brothy or meaty.[2][3]
People taste umami through taste receptors that typically respond to glutamate. Glutamate is widely present in meat broths and fermented products, and commonly added to some foods in the form of monosodium glutamate (MSG).[4] Since umami has its own receptors rather than arising out of a combination of the traditionally recognized taste receptors, scientists now consider umami to be a distinct taste.[1][5]"


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami

This is why East Asians have higher IQ- nutrition forms a part of it. Look at the East asian diet from China to Japan; pork forms a heavy component. From pork bones-derived soup base to plain boiled lean pork, pork practically forms a major part of the East Asian diet.

i eat pork for almost all my meals myself. my favorite meal:
‘Kwapchup' Singapore chinese cuisine ’果汁‘(新加坡本地中华菜色)

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Pig intestines, pig liver, pig ears, pork fatty meat.

Pig organ soup ’猪杂汤‘
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pig liver, pig heart, pig stomach, pig tongue, pork lean meat, pork meatballs,




So when you're a vegetarian, you are missing out what Mother Nature has all along meant for us omnivorous humans to be obtaining our essential nutrients from, especially those for boosting our IQ: meat.
 
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