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India working to make Bangladesh a desert

China is doing the same thing to India with the Bramhaputra. USA did the same thing to Baha California in mexico.

I think water wars are unavoidable until a global framework that is practically implemtable is worked out.

Until then, the group at the receiving end will always have to gripe about it. Which is actually unfortunate.:undecided:

When China is doing the same against India,we are still on the receiving end.:tsk:

But the problem can be solved if the countries stick to bi lateral agreements.But India is drawing all the water in summer and leaving very little for us whereas we are to get the majority according to the treaty.And in the rainy season they leave their gates open flooding our motherland.This is totally unacceptable.
 
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When China is doing the same against India,we are still on the receiving end.:tsk:

But the problem can be solved if the countries stick to bi lateral agreements.But India is drawing all the water in summer and leaving very little for us whereas we are to get the majority according to the treaty.And in the rainy season they leave their gates open flooding our motherland.This is totally unacceptable.

like i said, its every country 4 himself. If 1947 partition did not happen, we would not be facing these problems:coffee:
 
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like i said, its every country 4 himself. If 1947 partition did not happen, we would not be facing these problems:coffee:

that is flawed logic. do you eriouly believe that.


When China is doing the same against India,we are still on the receiving end.:tsk:

But the problem can be solved if the countries stick to bi lateral agreements.But India is drawing all the water in summer and leaving very little for us whereas we are to get the majority according to the treaty.And in the rainy season they leave their gates open flooding our motherland.This is totally unacceptable.


lets say dam is not there which means Bangladesh will be flooded like hell in rainy season.
 
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lets say dam is not there which means Bangladesh will be flooded like hell in rainy season.
What a senseless comment.

It will be flooded more when you open your dam gates in rainy season to avoid flood and discharge excess waters from your area.
 
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like i said, its every country 4 himself. If 1947 partition did not happen, we would not be facing these problems:coffee:
You cant even think of doing this without consultation with every country in Europe.
The difference between civilized and uncivilized manners.
 
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that is flawed logic. do you eriouly believe that.
lets say dam is not there which means Bangladesh will be flooded like hell in rainy season.

Natural flood is not bad for Bangladesh rather good. That particular river feed 1/10th of the countries land (we call them Haor) which remains 20 feet under water for 6 months. we also receive huge amount of sediments from those river water which keeps our land above the sea level and drives the sea saline water out of the main land.
 
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China is doing the same thing to India with the Bramhaputra. USA did the same thing to Baha California in mexico.

I think water wars are unavoidable until a global framework that is practically implemtable is worked out.

Until then, the group at the receiving end will always have to gripe about it. Which is actually unfortunate.:undecided:

China abandoned Bramhaputra project as there were too many protest from downstream countries. Rather they moved on to other internal river. Ohh dont bring USA here, they are far more rationale than we people and there are plenty of people in USA to speak for Mexico.
 
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Ohh dont bring USA here, they are far more rationale than we people and there are plenty of people in USA to speak for Mexico.

You think so? Don't u know anything about the rio grande issues?
 
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that's just nonsense, what would India achieve by turning Bangladesh into a desert? where would those people go? I'll give you a hint, up north. I don't think India is looking to feed anymore people than it has to. We have enough to deal with already. If this was true it would be front page of every news paper on the planet.
 
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Pl. read the book "Conflict on the Rio Grande: Water and the Law"

Water Rights War Rages on Faltering Rio Grande Water Rights War Rages on Faltering Rio Grande - The New York Times

It's not the border issue, though rio grande also serves as the border.

when it comes to water, everyone is equally suspicious of the other who has first access to it.

Yes I see the dispute and also I see how both the countries are working to keep the Rio Grande alive. Both country suppose to feed water from sources and mexico fell short in that.
But in our case India is working reletless to make our river die. First through withdrawing water from Ganges to Hugli then from Tista and now in Tipaimuk. Here is the difference which you cant grasp.
 
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Yes I see the dispute and also I see how both the countries are working to keep the Rio Grande alive. Both country suppose to feed water from sources and mexico fell short in that.
But in our case India is working reletless to make our river die. First through withdrawing water from Ganges to Hugli then from Tista and now in Tipaimuk. Here is the difference which you cant grasp.

I don't think we are working overtime to starve bangladesh, it is just a case of bad planning on part of the politicos in India who seem unable to solve even the internal problems on water sharing, the cauvery water problem is one such example. More than sinister motives, I blame apathy of the babus to issues.
 
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Tipai emits an air of eerie feelings

India's secretive handling of Tipaimukh dam causing huge concern downstream




Thursday June 11 2009 00:09:59 AM BDT


Ignoring its promise, India in the last four years has refrained from sharing technical information with Bangladesh about building the Tipaimukh Dam in the bordering Manipur state, triggering public uncertainty and outcry over its possible negative impact on the neighbouring country.(The Daily Star)

While India has not started construction of Tipaimukh dam on the Barak river near Manipur-Mizoram border, it had floated international tender in 2005 and opened the bid in 2006 during the era of former BNP-Jamaat alliance rule.

In 2005, India promised to share with Bangladesh the project design, which is pending till date. Besides, the country also did not share any study report on the dam's impact on downstream regions.

Experts told The Daily Star the construction of Tipaimukh dam would impose a great environmental threat to Bangladesh as four major rivers in the Meghna basin -- the Meghna, Kalini, Surma and Kushiyara -- lie downstream the Barak, locally known as 'Ahu'.

Amid such concerns, the prime minister has recently said an all-party parliamentary committee will visit India to know about the issue. The schedule of this visit has not yet been set.

Indian response to Bangladesh's worries has so far been remained confined within officially informing the government that they have not started any construction yet.

"They also informed us that they would not construct the Phulertal barrage under the project," said Mir Sazzad Hossain, member of the Joint River Commission.

At a Joint River Commission (JRC) meeting in September 2005 held in Dhaka India formally assured Bangladesh that they would not divert any water for their irrigation project, he said.

Hiding any information by the upper riparian countries about the use of common rivers is considered as violation of the international water management convention.

The expert warn of an increase in salinity in the Meghna-Surma basin, unusual floods in haor region, reduce in water flow in the Surma, Kushiyara and Meghna rivers in certain period, damage to the country's ecosystem and agriculture patterns in Sylhet region, among other impacts of the dam.

A chain of severe impacts is very likely as Bangladesh gets 7-8 percent of its river waters through the Barak.

Negative impacts of any large dam are very widely known around the globe. A detailed study by the World Dam Commission published in 2000 says adverse impacts of any large dams are irreversible for the lower riparian region.

The study after reviewing 1,000 dams from 79 countries concludes in its report: "The environmental impacts of dams are more negative than positive ones and in many cases dams have led to irreversible loss of species and ecosystems."

Indian High Commissioner to Dhaka Pinak Ranjan Chakrabarti at a meeting with Communications Minister Syed Abul Hossain recently said though his country will have sole control over water flow at the proposed dam site, it would not make any barrage.

He also said Bangladesh would not be 'affected' by the dam.

However, experts fear once the dam is set up, it may reduce the natural monsoon flood patterns in the Sylhet region, adversely affecting cultivation and livelihoods on a vast scale.

"It will increase the risk of floods at the end of monsoon and hamper the agriculture patterns during winter," said Ainun Nishat, eminent river expert of the country.

Rainfall patterns are changing due to climate change and a lot of rainfall takes place at the end of monsoon, said Ainun Nishat. If it rains at the end of monsoon, it will open the spillway gates of the dam and unusual floods will occur here, he added.

They would preserve the water during monsoon after building the dam and release it in winter, which will increase the water flow downstream.

"The land downstream the Barak in Sylhet region is wetland, where people grow crops during winter when it gets dry. If they release water during winter the wetland will be inundated and it will be a great impact on our agriculture," Nishat warned.

An increase in water level in the winter will cause a major impact on the ecosystem if the wetland gets inundated, he added.

He however said without checking every piece of information it is not possible to measure the total impact of Tipaimukh dam.

The experts fear India may hold up water flow during dry season and divert water at the proposed Phulertal Barrage 100 kilometres downstream Tipaimukh and 100 km upstream Amalshid in Sylhet.

The Phulertal barrage would have a direct bearing on the Surma, Kushiyara and Meghna rivers due to diversion of water for irrigation purposes in northeastern India. On hydropower component and rock fill dam, India claims no damage would occur to Bangladesh, but Bangladesh fears upstream water flow regulation.

Director General of Water Resources Planning Organisation (WARPO) Jalaluddin Md Abdul Hye said, "We don't have enough information to talk about the issue."

INTERNATIONAL CONVENTION AND

GANGES WATER

SHARING TREATY, 1996

According to the International Convention on Joint River Water, without the consent of the downstream river nation no single country alone can control the multi-nation rivers.

But India does not care for these international laws despite being a signatory of this convention.

If India constructs the dam without the consent of Bangladesh, it will also violate the article 9 of Bangladesh-India Ganges Water Sharing Treaty, 1996.

Asked about a possible solution, Ainun Nishat said the solution has to be political. He added in the Ganges Water Sharing Treaty both the countries agreed to manage all the joint rivers on bilateral basis.

"So under the Gages Water Sharing Treaty, both the country can resolve by sharing information and a joint team can study the adverse impacts on both the countries," Nishat added.

India handed over a number of primary project proposals to Bangladesh in 1979 and 1983. Later they conducted detailed studies about the project and completed the final design and environment impact assessment but did not share those with Bangladesh.

According to the primary project proposals, the height of the Tipaimukh damn was fixed at 161.8 metres and length 390 metres to contain at lest 15.9 million cubic metres of water.

ROLE OF THE FORMER GOVERNMENT

India completed the design and detailed studies and floated an international tender during the BNP-Jamaat rule, but the then government did not take up the issue properly.

At the 36th JRC meet held in Dhaka in September 2005, Bangladeshi delegates did not raise the Tipaimukh issue properly and failed to collect any information from their counterparts.

Just after two months India floated the international tender for the dam in November 2005, meaning they had nearly completed all the preparations during the JRC meet.

The then Indian water resources minister and JRC Co-chairman Priya Ranjan Dasmunsi at that meet said, "We'll present Tipaimukh's planned design to Bangladesh when it is prepared."

The Indian minister also committed to Bangladesh that they would not construct any barrage at Phulertal point as per their initial plan.

But just in next year, in July 2006, the pre-bid qualification of the tender for the first phase was opened. But the then BNP government did not conduct any technical study about the impacts of Tipaimukh or send any team to negotiate or visit the site.

Asked, Maj (retd) Hafizuddin, former water resources minister of the alliance government, said, "We repeatedly asked them to inform us about the Tipaimukh dam. But they didn't inform us anything, not even how much electricity they are going to produce."

"The Bangladesh governments are always in the dark about the issue," he observed.

About the JRC meet in 2005, he said the Indian minister assured that they would not build any barrage at Phulertal and they would inform later if they decide to build any barrage at any other point.

He added BNP will soon arrange a press conference on the issue.

INDIAN CITIZENS ALSO PROTESTING THE DAM

Information surfaced in different websites says several Indian organisations and civil society bodies are protesting the dam considering its negative impacts.

The websites also say the Expert Appraisal Committee (EAC) of India has found the design of the dam contains many errors, omissions, gaps, lacks in scientific rigour and falls far short of compliance of normative standards set by the scientific and academic community in India and the world.

The Action Committee Against Tipaimukh Dam (ACTIP), a platform protesting the dam, along with some other local committees from Manipur and Mizoram submitted a memorandum on March 14, 2007 to the president and prime minister of India in protest against the project.

They mentioned in their memorandum that once the project is implemented, an area of 286.20 square kilometres land will go under water forever.

Eight villages situated in the Barak valley will be completely inundated leaving over 40,000 people landless and more than 90 villages, mostly in Tamenglong district, adversely affected. Besides, about 27,242 hectares of cultivable land will be lost.

The Barak waterfalls and Zeilad Lake, which are connected with the history of the Zeliangrong people, an indigenous community in India, will go forever underwater. All folklores and legends will have no monuments' proof and it will become a makeup story for the next generation.

In the memorandum they said the mega-dam proposed in Tipaimukh will smother this river, change its age-old knowable and reliable nature, and drown them all in sorrow forever.

The project is not for the common people, they said, appealing to the government to let the Ahu run free.

How far they have advanced could not be confirmed, but the project is scheduled to be completed by 2012, different websites mentioned.

Recently, the Indian high commissioner said most of the Bangladeshi experts are making comments without having adequate information.

In response to the envoy's remarks, this correspondent tried to reach him in Dhaka, but he was not available.

None of the other high officials at the Indian High Commission in Dhaka could be contacted for comments despite repeated attempts in the last three days.

http://newsfrombangladesh.net/view.php?hidRecord=268297
 
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China is doing the same thing to India with the Bramhaputra. USA did the same thing to Baha California in mexico.
two wrongs don't make a right.

and who the hell cares about what's going on in the West?They can all drink champagne for all I care.

The most interesting thing about this is how the beloved daughter of the father of the nation and the "girl on fire" going to handle the Indians about the dam.Mind you the finance minister have presented a very ambitious budget,and plans for saving the rivers.
 
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