India with us on verdict, says China

[SBUS-CXK]

What in the dickens?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/82042501/china-has-no-historic-title-over-south-china-sea-waters

https://twitter.com/x/status/752871983130484740

And Taiwan, Taiwan's outrage at the court in the Hague, and sent warships to taiping island.

 

[SBUS-CXK]

That's what they feed their population. Too bad, they can't check international news without a vpn.

Please tell Mr Obama, please put his brother back to the USA, his brother has been living in China for 12 years, and Marbury Sir... Please don't say "I love China" this kind of lie.
Since 200 BC, the Chinese people to overturn a 100 dynasty, we know how to deal with their own government.
But... Heard that India has 1000 farmers commit suicide every year. Is this true?
Oh, human rights violations.

Off-topic answer.


Hi there Allen Iverson. I will try to provide an answer but you may not find it fulfilling, sorry.

First, you could have reported that post by @pher. That goes straight to moderation's attention.
None of those you tagged are officially mods, you see, me least of all.

Second, I'm guessing you chose that route because you were in doubt about mods considering
"big mouth" as an insult ... and you'd be right. If we suppose for instance that Donald Trump gets
elected president of the US in autumn, he'd be head of state and yet, he is undeniably a loud mouth.

Third and most importantly, while attacking greats of history is forbidden by the rules, active politi-
-cians must be scrutinized and discussed and their actions questioned, that's political maturity as
Manticore once put it. It is a free speech consequence and a necessity that we speak our mind on
our elected rulers, everywhere. Think of the slurs that accompanied Barack Obama for 2 mandates
from terrorist to socialist, the latter truly being seen as worse and a true insult by US conservatives.

Fourth and most important in the long run, adding such phrases : and you are dead meat here in PDF ...
negates most of your point.

Now, this said, I do understand your displeasure but you could take a tongue in cheek approach.
Just consider for example that "unnecessary Chinese provocation without any meaningful discussion"
which I tend to recognize as factual comes from being deprived of true democracy ( 28M voters/ 1,7B pop. )
and thus excuse their lack of sophistication in international relations. I mean, the people are acting no
more bluntly on PDF than their government in the Spratleys or Tien An Men square.

So in short, not much can be done in this case, sorry!
Take it with a grain of salt and a cup of tea and have a great day despite it.
All the best IRL, Tay.

Off-topic closed.

About freedom of speech, I'm not sure whether you know China's tiananmen square in 1989. Since China's economic rise, the idea of democracy and freedom swept across China, freedom of speech in China never stop.

According to article 35 of the constitution of the People's Republic of China -- -- -- -- -- Chinese citizens enjoy freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of worship, freedom of assembly.

So, there are constitution guarantees freedom of speech in China, if you can read Chinese, so you can see how Chinese people exercise their constitutional rights.

I don't know which party can be arrested at least 1000000000 citizens？ the Chinese communist party can't do this. The Chinese people also have no so weak, at least not like India 1000 farmers commit suicide every year.

Tell me, when a country becomes richer, people's income increase, rapidly rising living standards.（Tibet Basic wage 16000 rupees）. What is the purpose of the people against the government??

India, for example, 1/5 malnourished children and dalit, really need those free speech? Moreover, their freedom of speech in where?

A very matured response indeed...Good day to you..


No.. Asking explanation and insulting is two different things totally.. Me being a part of a democracy can question my PM on things that he has done as a prime minister and he is bound to answer me.. But insulting the de facto head of the state for no reason, is like splashing sewer on you by yourself.. No citizen can do that..
Now, who is he?? A third rate citizen of a communist state run by so called communist goons with no freedom of speech for its citizen.. If he comes out here and speaks such shit which he dare not speak in his own country about his own corrupt leaders, and that too about my prime minister about whom he knows crap, then why shouldn't I fcuk him front and back if he is next to me, this being an online forum atleast I can only warn him with words..you tell me why shouldn't I do that..???


I agree with most part of what you said, but for a new member to get inducted, it needs the consent of all the other members.. so if china can object with proper grounds, then other members have to agree.. That's it..


Problem between china and Philippines is not like India's problem between Nepal, Srilanka, Bhutan and Myanmar because none of these countries have went to international forums to settle the disputes.. As a matter of fact India doesn't have any problems with any of the countries you've said there.. it is just your opinion..

Hey, Mr Dalit from India, would you please tell me, India 1000 farmers commit suicide each year, 1/5 of malnutrition in children, and all of the dalit, India where their democracy and free body now?? 32 rupees a day poverty line is make you a "rich"?

Come to China, indians in the western Chinese city of chongqing, can get 36000 rupees a month, enough you eat satisfied belly and then talk about democracy in India.

 

[dray]

While PDF Chinese are all talking tough, as if China is the 'Rambo' of a country; China is begging for support of other countries.

Funny!

 

[hassamun]

China is a superpower and it does not need to beg any country for support...Instead China can dictate terms just like the US and Russia have done in the past...

Instead of going towards the South China Sea Issue, India should try to fix the trade imbalance between them and China which is growing at an alarming rate yearly...

For example in 2015, China Exported US$60 Billion to India whereas India could not even manage US$18 Billion. Some analysts say that this year the combined trade can reach US$100 Billion...

https://csis-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/...cation/150609_USIndiaInsight_June_Clean_0.pdf

The NSG was set up in 1970 is the basis of effect of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty (NPT)
In 1960, the French have nuclear weapons, in 1964 China has nuclear weapons.
USA and the Soviet union fear that there will be more countries with nuclear weapons. USA in 1965 to the committee on disarmament in Geneva a draft treaty on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons. In 1966, the USA and the Soviet union began to secret talks, and in 1967 to the disarmament commission proposed "the nuclear non-proliferation treaty" jointly draft, June 12, 1968, the UN general assembly approved the draft treaty.
So, India NSG success or not, the United States is the key. if the USA Really want to India to join the NSG, China can't stop... It is obvious that the interests of the exchange of China and the USA.

As to the problem of China and the Philippines, you don't need to worry about, because it is similar to that of India and Nepal, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Bhutan, myanmar...

Thank you for your explanation...Correct me if I'm wrong but all Members must approve a country for joining NSG...If China says no then India cannot join even if the US wishes too...

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

While PDF Chinese are all talking tough, as if China is the 'Rambo' of a country; China is begging for support of other countries.

Funny!

This is total bullsh1t, when you guys lost arguments, you accused us of talk tough, you guys buzzing around China issues similar to flies buzzing around dung trying to make provocation and instigation especially to bring up Indian lunatic sensational media and talk like you guys hold the true as we're the loser, but when we argue you accuse us of talk tough.

And there again you make another bullsh1t, we don't beg support as your foreign minister rush to China to beg China for NSG but instead got slap so hard than turn humiliation into frustration.

Lol your are free to try in bay of bengal!!
Hope your sailors can swim

AS matter of fact, last time we tried in the bay of Bengal all the way to Sri Lanka with our subs, without fire a single shot, you Indians are already cried of shame and beg Sri Lanka not to let that happen again, imagine if we go for real

 

[dray]

This is total bullsh1t, when you guys lost arguments, you accused us of talk tough, you guys buzzing around China issues similar to flies buzzing around dung trying to make provocation and instigation especially to bring up Indian lunatic sensational media and talk like you guys hold the true as we're the loser, but when we argue you accuse us of talk tough.

And there again you make another bullsh1t, we don't beg support as your foreign minister rush to China to beg China for NSG but instead got slap so hard than turn humiliation into frustration.



AS matter of fact, last time we tried in the bay of Bengal all the way to Sri Lanka with our subs, without fire a single shot, you Indians are already cried of shame and beg Sri Lanka not to let that happen again, imagine if we go for real

We can see the desperation, humiliation and frustration of china after losing the verdict, they are even going down to the level of making false claims of support.

 

[FullMetalJacket]

China is a superpower and it does not need to beg any country for support...Instead China can dictate terms just like the US and Russia have done in the past...

Instead of going towards the South China Sea Issue, India should try to fix the trade imbalance between them and China which is growing at an alarming rate yearly...

For example in 2015, China Exported US$60 Billion to India whereas India could not even manage US$18 Billion. Some analysts say that this year the combined trade can reach US$100 Billion...

https://csis-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/...cation/150609_USIndiaInsight_June_Clean_0.pdf



Thank you for your explanation...Correct me if I'm wrong but all Members must approve a country for joining NSG...If China says no then India cannot join even if the US wishes too...

Thanks for continually licking the Chinese boots explaining that we need to worry about our exports. Btw, how's your export level doing?

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

We can see the desperation, humiliation and frustration of china after losing the verdict, they are even going down to the level of making false claims of support.

If We hire Pakistani judge to pronounce a verdict regarding south Tibet, or if Chinese will have to judge Kashmir India will lose the verdict regardless if the entire world will support you , so realistically you think we're buying this SCS crap verdict ?

And like I said, if you Indians believe the verdict, why don't you guys do something or take military action to support, we're still holding the 9 dashed and Islands and lose not a single inch while you Indian can make an empty cheerleading to the verdict...LMAO

 

[cloud_9]

And Taiwan, Taiwan's outrage at the court in the Hague, and sent warships to taiping island.

Are you guys and Taiwanese trying to fight the USN with these numbers?

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Are you guys and Taiwanese trying to fight the USN with these numbers?

USN wouldn't dare to touch our Brothers, or they will have to answer to us.

 

[hassamun]

Thanks for continually licking the Chinese boots explaining that we need to worry about our exports. Btw, how's your export level doing?

Dear FullMetalJacket, First of all calling me licking Chinese Boots is personally very insulting to say the least...I don't say nasty things to anyone and expect the same treatment from others...I base my posts on facts only...when I mention my personal views I explicitly mention that...

If I'm not mistaken the posts were for China and India only...why bring in Pakistan? I compared Trade of China and India...What has Pakistan got to do with this? Please grow up...

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Thanks for continually licking the Chinese boots explaining that we need to worry about our exports. Btw, how's your export level doing?

You Indian licking some many boots (US, Vietnam, Japan, SCS verdict judges , Philippine, Asian, Mongolian..), I hope you guys still have saliva for your foods .

 

[cloud_9]

USN wouldn't dare to touch our Brothers, or they will have to answer to us.

Your brothers?
I think they know that they are protected by USN and that's the only reason they are all so excited.

 

[Dr Gupta]

Senile Chinese media

If we backing them why we are going to drill for oil with Vietnam?

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Your brothers?
I think they know that they are protected by USN and that's the only reason they are all so excited.

A lot of Countries are claim to be protected by USN include India, so Indian people think they have American's backing so they can challenge China, I can see the same excitement on Indian people too.