India will be Taliban's next target: Ex-NSA Narayanan

[Umair Nawaz]

indians dont fall for it its a well known US tactic they r basically trying to focus u on the things they want u to do.

 

[FaujHistorian]

We can apoint you to inspect if its clean to your satisfaction or not -

Humans do not have @rse inspectors, cows do

yoda says

indians dont fall for it its a well known US tactic they r basically trying to focus u on the things they want u to do.

haan Ji

How come you dragged USA into it?

ofcourse that is since Indian army never let them make one here.

Indian army makes its own hideouts.

yoda says

...In Kashmir we have a very strong and vast spy network!

Kashmir can be very cold in winter

so Talibarbarians hide in South India where it is warm and beaches are close by

 

[illusion8]

The best option is India and Pakistan combine together and talk to Afghanistan and get some peace deal going with the taliban - give pushtoons their rights. Get some trade going and take care of of our sh!t.

 

[acid rain]

Humans do not have @rse inspectors, cows do

yoda says




haan Ji

How come you dragged USA into it?



Indian army makes its own hideouts.

yoda says



Kashmir can be very cold in winter

so Talibarbarians hide in South India where it is warm and beaches are close by

you were so interested in how clean our @rses are - I thought you were looking for that job - if u are keen on it you can check our cattles @rses as well.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

haan Ji

How come you dragged USA into it?

study the geo political situation right now of this region and use yr upper chamber.

 

[Slayer786]

If you go by the definition: Pakistan is the occupying force and not India(The same is also mentioned in UN resolutions). India was invited by the king to thwart the Pakistani invasion into Kashmir.

Anyway, 'Kashmir is oppressed' has become rather cliché' and boring.

And will you be clear in what way 'Kashmir is oppressed'?

Did India denied Kashmiris their political right? No...Ali Shah Gelaani has as much right to become the prime minister of India as I have.

Did India denied Kashmiris their religious rights? No..India has 200 million Muslims and are flourishing

Did India denied Kashmiris their rights because they are ethnically different? No... India has more than 1000 ethnicities and there is no such thing as 'Indian Look'. North easterner look much different from a 'typical' Indian than ever a Kashmiri.

So on what ground Kashmiris are oppressed that other Indians are not?

Aray bhai India has held rigged elections in Kashmir, total foreign media black out, thoud\sands have been killed and many missing. And many Kashmiri women have been raped by Indian security forces. But the world ignores all this.
India is an important country in the region. Its economy is vital to everyone. Many western govts want to do n\business with it. And therefore chose to ignore all the oppression happening in Indian Occupied Kashmir. There are many articles written but no point in showing them as you Indians will chose to ignore it and write that it is Pakistani propaganda. But I thought maybe I should include just one anyway. This one is written by an Indian for a western newspaper. A bold journalist. Respect him for his courage as he is telling as it is. Unlike most Indians.

Why silence over Kashmir speaks volumes
Bloody protests against military rule get little coverage, while India maintains its reputation

Pankaj Mishra
The Guardian, Saturday 14 August 2010

Once known for its extraordinary beauty, the valley of Kashmir now hosts the biggest, bloodiest and also the most obscure military occupation in the world. With more than 80,000 people dead in an anti-India insurgency backed by Pakistan, the killings fields of Kashmir dwarf those of Palestine and Tibet. In addition to the everyday regime of arbitrary arrests, curfews, raids, and checkpoints enforced by nearly 700,000 Indian soldiers, the valley's 4 million Muslims are exposed to extra-judicial execution, rape and torture, with such barbaric variations as live electric wires inserted into penises.
Why then does the immense human suffering of Kashmir occupy such an imperceptible place in our moral imagination? After all, the Kashmiris demanding release from the degradations of military rule couldn't be louder and clearer. India has contained the insurgency provoked in 1989 by its rigged elections and massacres of protestors. The hundreds of thousands of demonstrators that fill the streets of Kashmir's cities today are overwhelmingly young, many in their teens, and armed with nothing more lethal than stones. Yet the Indian state seems determined to strangle their voices as it did of the old one. Already this summer, soldiers have shot dead more than 50 protestors, most of them teenagers.
The New York Times this week described the protests as a comprehensive"intifada-like popular revolt". They indeed have a broader mass base than the Green Movement does in Iran. But no colour-coded revolution is heralded in Kashmir by western commentators. The BBC and CNN don't endlessly loop clips of little children being shot in the head by Indian soldiers. Bloggers and tweeters in the west fail to keep a virtual vigil by the side of the dead and the wounded. No sooner than his office issued it last week, the UN secretary general, Ban Ki-moon, hastened to retract a feeble statement expressing concern over the situation in Kashmir.
Kashmiri Muslims are understandably bitter. As Parvaiz Bukhari, a journalist, said early this week the stones flung randomly by protestors have become "the voice of a neglected people" convinced that the world deliberately ignores their plight. The veteran Kashmiri journalist Masood Hussain confessed to the near-total futility of his painstaking auditing of atrocity over two decades. For Kashmir has turned out to be a "great suppression story".
The cautiousness – or timidity – of western politicians is easy to understand. Apart from appearing as a lifeline to flailing western economies, India is a counterweight, at least in the fantasies of western strategists, to China. A month before his election, Barack Obama declared that resolving the "Kashmir crisis" was among his "critical tasks". Since then, the US president hasn't uttered a word about this ur-crisis that has seeded all major conflicts in south Asia. David Cameron was advised a similar strategic public silence on his visit to India last fortnight.
Those western pundits who are always ready to assault illiberal regimes worldwide on behalf of democracy ought not to be so tongue-tied. Here is a well-educated Muslim population, heterodox and pluralist by tradition and temperament, and desperate for genuine democracy. However, intellectuals preoccupied by transcendent, nearly mystical, battles between civilization and barbarism tend to assume that "democratic" India, a natural ally of the "liberal" west, must be doing the right thing in Kashmir, ie fighting "Islamofascism". Thus Christopher Hitchens could call upon the Bush administration to establish a military alliance with "the other great multi-ethnic democracy under attack from Muslim fascism" even as an elected Hindu nationalist government stood accused of organising a pogrom that killed more than 2,000 Muslims in the Indian state of Gujarat.
Electoral democracy in multi-ethnic, multi-religious India is one of the modern era's most utopian political experiments, increasingly vulnerable to malfunction and failure, and, consequently, to militant disaffection and state terror. But then the west's new masters of humanitarian war, busy painting grand ideological struggles on broad, rolling canvases, are prone to miss the human position of suffering and injustice.
Indian writers and intellectuals, who witnessed the corrosion of India's secular democracy by Hindu supremacists, seem better acquainted with the messy realities concealed by stirring abstractions. But on Kashmir they often appear as evasive as their Chinese peers are on Tibet. They may have justifiably recoiled from the fundamentalist and brutish aspect of the revolt in the valley. But the massive non-violent protests in Kashmir since 2008 haven't released a flood of pent-up sympathy from them.
Few people are as well positioned as the much-revered Amartya Sen to provoke national introspection on Kashmir. Indeed, no one can fault Sen's commitment to justice for the poor and defenceless in India. Yet Sen relegates Kashmir to footnotes in both of his recent books: The Argumentative Indian and Identity and Violence.
Certainly, as Arundhati Roy's recent writings prove, anyone initiating a frank discussion on Kashmir risks a storm of vituperation from the Indian understudies of Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity. The choleric TV anchors, partisan journalists and opinion-mongers of India's corporate media routinely amplify the falsehoods and deceptions of Indian intelligence agencies in Kashmir. Blaming Pakistan or Islamic fundamentalists, as the Economist pointed out last week, has "got much harder" for the Indian government, which, has "long denied the great extent to which Kashmiris want rid of India". Nevertheless, it tries; and, as the political philosopher Pratap Bhanu Mehta, one of the few fair-minded commentators on this subject, points out, the Indian media now acts in concert with the government "to deny any legitimacy to protests in Kashmir".
This effective censorship reassures those Indians anxious not to let mutinous Kashmiris sully the currently garish notions of India as an "economic powerhouse" and "vibrant democracy" – the calling cards with which Indian elites apply for membership to the exclusive clubs of the west. In Kashmir, however, the net effect is deeper anger and alienation. As Bukhari puts it, Kashmiris hold India's journalists as responsible as its politicians for "muzzling and misinterpreting" them.
"The promise," Mehta writes, "of a liberal India is slowly dying". For Kashmiris this promise has proved as hollow as that of the fundamentalist Islam exported by Pakistan. Liberated from political deceptions, the young men on the streets of Kashmir today seem simply to want to express their hatred of the state's impersonal brutality, and to commemorate lives freshly ruined by it. As the Kashmiri writer Basharat Peer wrote this week in a moving Letter to an Unknown Indian, Indian journalists might edit out the "faces of the murdered boys", and "their grieving fathers"; they may not show "the video of a woman in Anantnag, washing the blood of the boys who were killed outside her house". But "Kashmir sees the unedited Kashmir."
And it remembers. "Like many other Kashmiris," Peer writes, "I have been in silence, committing to memory the deed, the date." Apart from the youth on the streets, there are also those with their noses in books, or pressed against window bars. Soon this generation will make its way into the world with its private traumas. Life under political oppression has begun to yield, in the slow bitter way it does, a rich intellectual and artistic harvest: Peer's memoir Curfewed Night will be followed early next year by a novel by Waheed Mirza. There are more works to come; Kashmiris will increasingly speak for themselves. One can only hope that their voices will finally penetrate our indifference and even occasionally prick our conscience.

Source: © 2014 Guardian News and Media Limited or its affiliated companies. All rights reserved.

 

[FaujHistorian]

study the geo political situation right now of this region and use yr upper chamber.

study the subject line/op before launching a tirade

The best option is India and Pakistan combine together and talk to Afghanistan and get some peace deal going with the taliban - give pushtoons their rights. Get some trade going and take care of of our sh!t.

brother

Where were you all this time. It has been raining acid for so many hours

Well said brother

well said

it is time to live in 2014, and not 1980 and not 1960 and definitely not in 1940.

May God bless you

you were so interested in how clean our @rses are - I thought you were looking for that job - if u are keen on it you can check our cattles @rses as well.

People who slip on their own $hit start posting the word @rse more than one time

A vet in the house on order

yoda says

 

[third eye]

As long as there's wood, there will be fire. Blame it on Pakistan as much as you want.

You have done it so many times, that no one believes you anymore.

As long as Kashmir is occupied and our people are opressed, India will remain a target of resistence.

Who are ' our people " ?

 

[FaujHistorian]

Who are ' our people " ?

The one that start with O and U.

 

[third eye]

The one that start with O and U.

Was that meant to be funny ?

 

[FaujHistorian]

Was that meant to be funny ?

O and U is said only in seriousness

Yoda says

 

[third eye]

O and U is said only in seriousness

Yoda says

 

[FaujHistorian]

..

O U
Images are blocked on our server.

What does it say?

 

[OrionHunter]

Exactly. They cannot live among and recruit from the people, like they can in Pakistan. At most, they can do a terror attack once in a blue moon, if they manage to infiltrate through the border or sea. India is no Pakistan, and Indians are no Pakistanis. The Republic of India rests securely on firm foundations.

Well said!

Afghanistan is heading toward a civil war soon after the Americans withdraw, what with rival factions/warlords at each others throats, fighting proxy battles on behalf of their mentors - Iran, India, Pakistan, CIS republics, Russia, US and China.

The Taliban will have their hands full trying to grab and keep power for which they will need all hands on deck. For them every Talibani will count and so they will never fritter away their manpower resources by sending them into India. And unlike Pakistan, Kashmir is not the priority of the Afghan Taliban.

I therefore disagree with ex NSA Narayanan.

 

[illusion8]

study the subject line/op before launching a tirade




brother

Where were you all this time. It has been raining acid for so many hours

Well said brother

well said

it is time to live in 2014, and not 1980 and not 1960 and definitely not in 1940.

May God bless you



People who slip on their own $hit start posting the word @rse more than one time

A vet in the house on order

yoda says

So you too agree that it's the best option?

But will be mighty difficult to get our combined babus on board - if achieved will give immense boost to our confidence in taking care of our own sh!t and not be dependent on the goras and the mullahs or any other retards. Put our bilateral problems/ insurgencies and all other issues on the backburner for a while take care of this taliban sh!t and when we are confident enough of taking our matters into our own hands, we can then sort out the rest of our problems because if we do not then we are in for a major hell ride.

I can see a huge arc of prosperity combining Afghanistan - Pakistan - India happening if we can sit together and sort out our mess ourselves.