India v/s China: We’ve got Facebook! What’ve you got?

[Skull and Bones]

nice indian dreaming.
more big talk by the indians then fire blanks.

india will always be a puppet of the western world,majority indians can speak the western language, english, due to being colonized, so they dont need their own companies. if you speak english, you dont need your own indigenous companies. we dont speak english, so we need our own systems, our culture, our heritage, our style.

indian culture is western culture, india is completely westernized, indian culture is no more as colonization destroyed its culture. they have lost their own identity, they are culturally colonized by the british and americans. same with japan.
not only that but indians are very primitive and backward people, its part of the indian system, its corrupt to the core.
im not being racist, but indians are very corrupt people, not all indians are corrupt but most of the corrupt people seem to be indian.

india will always be part of the western world, they speak the westerners language, they have western legal and political systems, western culture, etc.

thats the greatness of china, we have our culture, our history, our civilization, our language, our systems.

^^^^
And this guy wrote all of that in english.

 

[Amolthebest]

nice indian dreaming.
more big talk by the indians then fire blanks.

india will always be a puppet of the western world,majority indians can speak the western language, english, due to being colonized, so they dont need their own companies. if you speak english, you dont need your own indigenous companies. we dont speak english, so we need our own systems, our culture, our heritage, our style.

indian culture is western culture, india is completely westernized, indian culture is no more as colonization destroyed its culture. they have lost their own identity, they are culturally colonized by the british and americans. same with japan.
not only that but indians are very primitive and backward people, its part of the indian system, its corrupt to the core.
im not being racist, but indians are very corrupt people, not all indians are corrupt but most of the corrupt people seem to be indian.

india will always be part of the western world, they speak the westerners language, they have western legal and political systems, western culture, etc.

thats the greatness of china, we have our culture, our history, our civilization, our language, our systems.

If not westerners and US you were spanked by Japanese you were spanked badly by Japanese in second world war. We know you are back stabbers but don't prove your disloyalty here.

 

[parkland]

china is nothing but a buuble thats growing.

 

[rcrmj]

It's not me, it's you who is brainwashed comrade. Anybody can sense your frustration over Indian Democracy and middle class rise.

kid i have been to india many times, i really see 'freedom' and 'democracy' there i'd rather be a chinese factory worker than an indian call center worker

india has a 300-400 million strong middle class good enought to drive our economy, worry abt ur economy which is only being driven by over consumption. more than quarter of ur economy is simply real estate which is nothing but a bad investment. u can goo and see what real estate ppl of china are saying. one billionaire called china "dubai 1000 times or worse".
ur real estatae magnets are leaving china and setting up safe houses in us and canada, they know they would need to fled away from country soon.

exactly similiar position was japan in 25 yrs ago. huge reserves, huge manufacturing base, huge spending power, worrlds biggest banks all set to takeover america. what happned? banks grew but the country went bankrupt and is now crippling. china price rise will itself hurt china bad. i dont say china will collapse but it will suffer with low economic growth soon.

300-400 million is your Indian standard, hardly a consumption force, with your standard China would have 1 billion middle class, my factory workers basic average pay is around $600 plus free living and food, and I know it very well how much those Indians paid in call-centers

china is nothing but a buuble thats growing.

India's 80% debt and primitive consumption is really solid 'growth'

 

[Amolthebest]

kid i have been to india many times, i really see 'freedom' and 'democracy' there i'd rather be a chinese factory worker than an indian call center worker

Thatswhat you are. CCP propaganda army member.

 

[Nakki Nair]

this is complete bs and ppl read such stuff thinking that this is a chronic problem india is facing lol
i am doing engineering at waterloo canada world ranked 35. i can assure even graduating from waterloo ur nothing but a crap engineer who cant even program without copying assignments from top 1% of class. all companies train u and whatever u learnt in ur 4 yrs will never be used again.

50% of my engineering class is chinese and they r completely same. good part about being an engineer is not knowing everything but the ability to learn anything when needed in life.



dude dont reply to ws 10 engine. he is not worth talking. he is here to derail the thread.

Agree. I m from NTU. Among the top 50 as well

 

[holysaturn]

An interesting analysis in TIME magazine, to the extent that it tries to be an analysis:

The ChIndian Century
And don’t forget to check out these two accompanying arguments, one for India and one for China:

The Case for India: Free to Succeed
The Case for China: The Power of Planning

I plan to blog about this general issue sometime soon. Right now however, I just can’t help commenting on just two points for the time being, particularly because many westerners have humongous misconceptions about these issues. Almost every article on the topic contains at least a reference to these two fallacious points.

From the Case for India article:

The only way either economy can keep growth roaring is to develop high-tech industries and innovative companies — a difficult leap that demands the type of smartly run companies India already has. It also requires democracy and civil liberties. By censoring the Internet, controlling the press and stifling debate, Beijing is suppressing the open exchange of information and risk-taking spirit necessary for entrepreneurial innovation. Indians, enjoying full freedom of expression and association, face no such hurdles.

This absolutely bullshit view – that of relating internet censorship and “human rights” to entrepreneurial spirit and scientific research, and concluding that the former stifles the later – is so common, especially in the west, that it really makes one wonder whether people have lost the ability to think. And I am not talking about the ability to think in any profoundly intellectual way – just normal thinking that separates Homo Sapiens as a species from, say, American politicians.

Analysts and Journalists focus only on the tiny, miniscule, 0.0001% of search results that China does censor – and then extrapolate it to conclude that this will negatively affect (“stiffle” is their favorite word) entrepreneurial spirit and scientific research. Yes – China does censor certain search terms. But what does a search result relating to the Dalai Lama have to do with a citizen who wants to begin a tech startup? How pray will a scientist’s research in quantum physics be affected if the Chinese government censors his google search results about Tiananmen?? (I can just see the headline now – China lags in Physics research due to government cover up of Tiananmen massacre, says scientist). How did the team that created the Sunway system (whose theoretical peak performance is 74% faster than the fastest US supercomputer, and it used homegrown chips) be stifled when they realized that they can’t use Facebook and Twitter?

“Screw government grants and cutting-edge research facilities!” – they’ll say. “We want to tweet and protest. We’re going to India – the land of freedom. So what if its richest city has 42% of its population living in slums and where more people have mobile phones than access to a proper toilet??! We don’t care about about living standards!!! We want freedom of speech and a free internet!! And not just the 99.9999% free internet that China offers! No sir – for us, that 0.00001% censored search results are more important!”

Now that I think of it – this will make for a good Onion story. I can just see the headline now – Scientist prefers Facebook over better standards of living. “It will make life better for my children” he says.

Another piece of BS:

We can also make the case that India is more entrepreneurial than China. Indian firms like Infosys, Tata Consultancy Services and Wipro practically invented the entire offshore IT-services industry — a sector China is now attempting to copy. At their ever expanding campuses, these companies train and absorb thousands of new hires each year while extending their reach to every corner of the globe — management challenges Chinese executives would struggle to tackle.

The BPO industry in India is based on call-center employees answering stupid phone calls from stupid customers in the US and other countries (BTW – that anecdote about Americans calling to say that their computers are not working when they were not actually plugged in – is actually true). All these call center employees (who go by the fanciful title of “executives”) have no technical skills whatsoever – they just read out the instructions that appear to them on their help screen to customers. It is common knowledge in India that people work at a call center iff (if and only if) they can’t get employment anywhere else – and a few do it for the money. It is nobody’s – and I mean nobody’s – first choice. In fact, joining a call-center is considered a sort of slur and an insult – that they couldn’t get employed anywhere else and had to join a call center and had to work night shifts. In a nutshell – they are “unemployable”. This is the sector that has put India on the global map.

NASSCOM says that 90% Graduates and 75% Engineers in India are unemployable. That explains why companies like Infosys and TCS have to spend an average of 6-8 months and spend crores of rupees training engineering graduates. Yes – those people have already acquired degrees – and they still need months of training! A very large number (perhaps the majority, though I can’t verify it) of fresh engineering graduates that these companies hire during campus recruitment drives – are actually graduates from non-software fields, such as Electronics, Telecommunication, Mechanical etc. And then they train them in software and teach them a few languages, and they are ready and qualified to work in a software MNC! Whatever they learnt in most of the past four years gone to waste – never to be used again. In fact, one recruiter from a major MNC once told me that they just require the “aptitude” of an engineer, they are going to teach them everything else anyway.

Name one software product that has come out of this so-called IT superpower. Name one Indian university that has broken into the top 100 in the world. Name just one piece of innovation (software or otherwise) that you’ve heard of that has come from India, despite its “freedom”. But who cares? We’ve got Facebook!


| Hidden Harmonies China Blog

if u call havin FB freedom,,,,,,,,,,,,gud god the chinese have a lot of distance to cover compared with india...........i earn 30000 rs per month am free to speak free to follow and preach my relegion,i like the people around me what else do i need.........

 

[Ajaxpaul]

if u call havin FB freedom,,,,,,,,,,,,gud god the chinese have a lot of distance to cover compared with india...........i earn 30000 rs per month am free to speak free to follow and preach my relegion,i like the people around me what else do i need.........

dude you should earn 100000 per month and spend it as the govt orders...thats true freedom.

 

[rcrmj]

kid i have been to india many times, i really see 'freedom' and 'democracy' there i'd rather be a chinese factory worker than an indian call center worker

Thatswhat you are. CCP propaganda army member.

way to go to delude yourself, my sympathy

 

[SP!TF!R3]

nope buddy...we are being brainwashed by westerners....we are the force from "Mordor"





..and China is place of heavenly bliss and glory..truly middle kingdom(Elf).....

oooopsssssss...my bad...Tiananmen Square

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Indians in South Africa were classified as blacks under apartheid at first. Gandhi was so outraged, but not at apartheid. Instead, he petitioned South Africa not to end apartheid, but to give Indians separate status.

India is an inherently race based society, as we can see from the pictures. White = good, dark = not good. This, along with the fact that they have mostly dark skin, gives them a severe inferiority complex towards Europeans. That is why Nikki Halley changed to become a 100% purebred white in name, appearance and English accent.

 

[parkland]

Indians in South Africa were classified as blacks under apartheid at first. Gandhi was so outraged, but not at apartheid. Instead, he petitioned South Africa not to end apartheid, but to give Indians separate status.

India is an inherently race based society, as we can see from the pictures. White = good, dark = not good. This, along with the fact that they have mostly dark skin, gives them a severe inferiority complex towards Europeans. That is why Nikki Halley changed to become a 100% purebred white in name, appearance and English accent.

wtffff

 

[Amolthebest]

Indians in South Africa were classified as blacks under apartheid at first. Gandhi was so outraged, but not at apartheid. Instead, he petitioned South Africa not to end apartheid, but to give Indians separate status.

India is an inherently race based society, as we can see from the pictures. White = good, dark = not good. This, along with the fact that they have mostly dark skin, gives them a severe inferiority complex towards Europeans. That is why Nikki Halley changed to become a 100% purebred white in name, appearance and English accent.

Who feed you this false info? CPC ?

 

[shuttler]

An interesting analysis in TIME magazine, to the extent that it tries to be an analysis:

The ChIndian Century
And don’t forget to check out these two accompanying arguments, one for India and one for China:

Time is run by an indiotic editor.

Name one software product that has come out of this so-called IT superpower. Name one Indian university that has broken into the top 100 in the world. Name just one piece of innovation (software or otherwise) that you’ve heard of that has come from India, despite its “freedom”. But who cares? We’ve got Facebook!

I like this attitude. Less trouble for its neighbours despite more trolls but we can live with those.

The bootcamp for troll armies.

 

[Sonyuke_Songpaisan]

china is nothing but a buuble thats growing.

India is nothing but a shlt museum.