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India Took a Shocking 33 Years to Develop a Jet Fighter (And It’s Still Not Ready for Combat)

Clutching straws again ? That was Mk1 not Mk2
you are buying 6 squadrons of Tejas only (20 Mk1, 80 Mk1A) thats all

you are buying 6 squadrons of Tejas only (20 Mk1, 80 Mk1A) thats all
Even these 100 planes are being purchased to save the honour of India and HAL, for actual combat you are going for a new single engine aircraft for which tenders are being floated
 
you are buying 6 squadrons of Tejas only (20 Mk1, 80 Mk1A) thats all

No one said that's all. Don't come up with foolish assumptions.

Even these 100 planes are being purchased to save the honour of India and HAL, for actual combat you are going for a new single engine aircraft for which tenders are being floated

All I can say is LOL. DM has actually rubbished such claims

We must be so filthy rich to order 100 LCAs & to create a second assembly line just to 'save face'.
 
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You can keep chest thumping about a Chinese aircraft, while we develop our aerospace industry.
Yup, everything India makes comes with an INDIGENOUS label..... :rofl:

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Yup, everything India makes comes with an INDIGENOUS label..... :rofl:

Indian_HAL_Dhruv_ALH_HELICOPTER.jpg

Already rubbished claims & a fancy poster made by a pdf troll

1. Design-Indian with German consultancy

MBB is only employed by HAL to provide consultancy for the basic ALH design and has no involvement with any of the military variants of the helicopter.The West German engineers have been advising at every stage of the development process. Their numbers have varied from 30 to the present 15 at the Bangalore site. This must be set against a HAL design team of 250 engineers assisted by 700 technicians.

https://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/1990/1990 - 1719.PDF


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2.Engine

For its first application, the Dhruv, a first engine variant christened the Ardiden 1H1 (or "Shakti" in India), offering a power of 1,400 shp, is jointly developed and producted with HAL.

Turbomeca - Ardiden

3.Self-Defense system is foreign?What is brought,is the MAWS sensors that are a part of Indian developed Multi Sensor Warning System used in Dhruv

4. Locally manufactured main & tail rotors

5.fuel tanks, floatation equipment and related gaskets and seals for the ALH are now manufactured locally (article itself states it )

6.MFDs are now manufactured Indigenously.And Israeli Avionics are not a part of every Dhruv,Customer can chose between Indian & Israeli Avionics.This is a fact most of us are well aware of.

Aero India 2003 - Part 6

7.Anti Resonance vibration Isolation System (ARIS) is Indian

8.Automatic flight Control system (AFCS) is Indian

9.Retractable Landing Gear is indian

10.The Guns & Rocket Launcher are not a part of Dhruv,they are for Rudra helicopter.
I guess S 70 Battlehawk is not American,as it uses the same THL 20 gun..Agusta A129 /TAI T-129 is not Indigenous because it uses American M197 Gatling gun..

Helina too is Indian

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11. Gearbox is indigenized now.
 
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Get your trailer Tejas flying before digressing in other nonsense.

Yeah right- number of qualified aerospace vendors is non sense for an uninformed troll.

Tejas is in service sweetie. Now why don't you develop a freaking basic trainer in your country ?
 
Yeah right- number of qualified aerospace vendors is non sense for an uninformed troll.

Tejas is in service sweetie. Now why don't you develop a freaking basic trainer in your country ?


Delusional Indiot.

India is the largest importer of arms. Wake up and smell the poo.
 
Delusional Indiot.

India is the largest importer of arms. Wake up and smell the poo.

We are the world's second most populous country idiot. Try dividing the value of arms imports by population before opening your mouth wide.
 
We are the world's second most populous country idiot. Try dividing the value of arms imports by population before opening your mouth wide.


More than a billion people and still the largest importer of arms? That's even more tragic. :coffee:
 
Easier said than done. !!!
@gslv mk3 : See this is the type of informative post you should be doing.... Stop posting all the RAW conspiracy PDFs about how "we" build helicopters and airplanes. Everyone know, this is all done in china and we just publish pictures. And your name is just as much a shame, so many ppl shitting outside and you want to discuss logic and facts !! How dare you. We you and me are just lowly Hindu. Windy here is the superior to us bcoz he is a Pakistani and just by being one he is always right. Just try an absorb the awesome number of facts provided by windy.

When Pakistanis say everything is Imported, then every thing is imported; LCA failure never will fly, then LCA is a failure and never will fly, you don't argue. You go ahead and scrape bottom of the barrel to hunt news which support them. Like this:-

The LCA Tejas is being build by India’s own Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL). Despite the number prototypes and pre-production examples slowly coming to 20 aircraft, the problems with the future combat jet continue.




RELATED POST:
Second naval Tejas airborne

“LCA Mark-I, which achieved Initial Operational Clearance in December 2013 has significant shortfalls as a result of which it will have reduced operational capabilities and reduced survivability, thereby limiting its operational employability when inducted into IAF squadrons. LCA Mark-I does not meet the standards. The deficiencies are now expected to be met in LCA Mark-II by December 2018,” according to a CAG report released this week. This will mean that combat readiness can be expected in January 2019 at the earliest.


One of the significant problems is the electronic self protection suite, like HAL not having been able yet to construct the jammer into the plane. Moreover, HAL needs to incorporate more foreign bought elements, since Indian industries failed to develop a well-functioning engine, radar and information display systems for the pilot.

Despite claims by HAL that the Tejas is functioning up to 70 percent of what it has been promised to do, the CAG puts that percentage on a mere 35 percent.

Problems with the Tejas have resulted in the Indian Air Force having to keep its aging fleets of Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21s, Mirage fighters and Jaguar attack jets longer in service, with an increasing cost for maintenance and overhaul.

Despite all criticism, HAL, the Indian Air Force and the Indian Navysay to be confident that in due course the Tejas will be a robust part of the Asian nation’s defence and strike capabilities.

© 2015 Airheadsfly.com editor Marcel Burger
Featured image (top): One of the limited production examples of the HAL LCA Tejas. (Image © Aeronautical Development Agency, Ministry of Defence, India)
 
Well your eyes only work when it is in trailer. They won't work to watch the other testing videos of it flying at various locations, in various temperatures and doing weapon tests.

Seriously? Responding to the house troll???

The TATA truck that it is mounted on, it is an Indian private sector company with a turnover of 100 billion dollars annually. We can not even begin to explain what that means to these small people who must remain drunk on their superiority drugs just to cope with reality.
 
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@gslv mk3 : See this is the type of informative post you should be doing.... Stop posting all the RAW conspiracy PDFs about how "we" build helicopters and airplanes. Everyone know, this is all done in china and we just publish pictures. And your name is just as much a shame, so many ppl shitting outside and you want to discuss logic and facts !! How dare you. We you and me are just lowly Hindu. Windy here is the superior to us bcoz he is a Pakistani and just by being one he is always right. Just try an absorb the awesome number of facts provided by windy.

When Pakistanis say everything is Imported, then every thing is imported; LCA failure never will fly, then LCA is a failure and never will fly, you don't argue. You go ahead and scrape bottom of the barrel to hunt news which support them. Like this:-

The LCA Tejas is being build by India’s own Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL). Despite the number prototypes and pre-production examples slowly coming to 20 aircraft, the problems with the future combat jet continue.




RELATED POST:
Second naval Tejas airborne

“LCA Mark-I, which achieved Initial Operational Clearance in December 2013 has significant shortfalls as a result of which it will have reduced operational capabilities and reduced survivability, thereby limiting its operational employability when inducted into IAF squadrons. LCA Mark-I does not meet the standards. The deficiencies are now expected to be met in LCA Mark-II by December 2018,” according to a CAG report released this week. This will mean that combat readiness can be expected in January 2019 at the earliest.


One of the significant problems is the electronic self protection suite, like HAL not having been able yet to construct the jammer into the plane. Moreover, HAL needs to incorporate more foreign bought elements, since Indian industries failed to develop a well-functioning engine, radar and information display systems for the pilot.

Despite claims by HAL that the Tejas is functioning up to 70 percent of what it has been promised to do, the CAG puts that percentage on a mere 35 percent.

Problems with the Tejas have resulted in the Indian Air Force having to keep its aging fleets of Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21s, Mirage fighters and Jaguar attack jets longer in service, with an increasing cost for maintenance and overhaul.

Despite all criticism, HAL, the Indian Air Force and the Indian Navysay to be confident that in due course the Tejas will be a robust part of the Asian nation’s defence and strike capabilities.

[emoji767] 2015 Airheadsfly.com editor Marcel Burger
Featured image (top): One of the limited production examples of the HAL LCA Tejas. (Image [emoji767] Aeronautical Development Agency, Ministry of Defence, India)
Next time, we must stop developing our own weapons or anything related to defence.

We should buy drones from Israel and name it Baburaq. We should scrape Tejas and buy gripen and name it FF-17(fucking fighter).
We must rename our T-90s to Al-Bhisma.
 

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