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Feb 28, 2017, 3:12 am IST
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Sir C V Raman had planned to set up a scientific institute in 1959 on a four-acre land in Madras.
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Sir Raman has clarified that he was not sent out of Mysore, but came from Calcutta to Bangalore in 1933, and received support from the Dewan for his scientific work.


Bengaluru: A research institute – complete with a lab, a science museum, a science library, a lecture hall and office rooms – was late Nobel laureate Sir C.V. Raman’s idea of giving something back to Madras (Chennai), a city where he commenced his scientific career, and to make a “distinct contribution” to the scientific life of the city, but it has remained an unfulfilled dream.

Sir Raman planned the second institute in 1959, 11 years after establishing Raman Research Institute (RRI) in Bengaluru, on a four-acre land parcel owned by him in Mylapore (Madras), where “scientific work of the highest standard could be carried on”. He estimated that the research institute could be built with a budget of a couple of lakhs of rupees and carry on work with a minimum recurring expenditure of Rs 2,000 a month. “My confidence in the usefulness of the proposed institute is indicated by my preparedness to find from other sources one half of the capital expenditure proposed and also to meet one half of the recurring expenditure necessary for the next five years. If the Government of Madras could see their way to make an equal contribution, the construction of the institute could be immediately taken up and proceeded with,” states the renowned physicist’s letter dated August 18, 1959, to the late C. Subramaniam, minister for finance education, Government of Madras, unearthed by Deccan Chronicle on the eve of National Science Day, observed on February 28 to mark the discovery of ‘Raman Effect.’


Subsequent correspondence between Mr Subramaniam and Sir Raman point at the state government’s willingness to support the proposed institute, but with a suggestion that the Nobel laureate write to the Union government for non-recurring expenditure of the project. “I may say, however, that subject to the condition that the assistance to be given by the Government of India, if any, will be taken into account in fixing the actual grant, this Government will be willing to meet a maximum of half the non-recurring cost of establishing the research institute and to make a suitable annual recurring grant for five years in the first instance,” reads the late Mr Subramaniam’s reply.

With the erstwhile Madras government listing several conditions as part of the grant-in-aid code for half grant towards construction of the institute and repeated suggestions for securing the Union government’s financial support, Sir Raman’s subsequent letter to Mr Subramaniam points at his reluctance to seek help from New Delhi. “My past experience and present knowledge of the attitude of the Central Government in matters concerning scientific research alike indicate that any application for a building grant made to that Government for the proposed institute would be met with a refusal. Not until the institute has been fully established and proved itself useful would the Central Government feel at all inclined to extend a helping hand to it,” mirrors his disinclination to write to the Centre.

Sources in RRI Trust said Sir Raman had adopted a similar stand vis-à-vis RRI and the Union government. “It was only after Sir Raman’s demise that the Union government offered aid to RRI, and the Trust invited his son Prof V Radhakrishnan to head RRI,” sources added.

Sir Raman came to the rescue of Dewan Ismail
Another set of letters, exchanged between Sir Raman and Sir Mirza Ismail, the Dewan of Mysore, in 1939, illustrates how the Nobel laureate rushed to support the latter in the wake of an article published in “The Hindu Outlook”, accusing the Dewan of favouring Muslims in appointments in Mysore state.

Sir Raman has clarified that he was not sent out of Mysore, but came from Calcutta to Bangalore in 1933, and received support from the Dewan for his scientific work.

“Throughout this period, I have received nothing but kindness and consideration from Sir Mirza Ismail on all occasions, and indeed I have had reason to feel most grateful for the fact that he has held the high office of Dewan of Msyore during these years,” reads Sir Raman’s letter in response to an article published by Krishna Lal Anand in “The Hindu Outlook” on September 14, 1939, with a headline “Muslim Dewan over Hindu state.”
 
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The Union Minister for Science & Technology and Earth Sciences, Dr. Harsh Vardhan presenting the National Award for Outstanding efforts in Science & Technology Communication to Dr. M.V. Padma Srivastava, Delhi, at the National Science Day celebrations, in New Delhi on February 28, 2017. The Secretary, Ministry of Science & Technology & Earth Sciences, Shri Ashuthosh Sharma is also seen.
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The Union Minister for Science & Technology and Earth Sciences, Dr. Harsh Vardhan presenting the National Award for Outstanding efforts in Science & Technology Communication through Innovative and Traditional methods to Dr. Shally Awasthi, at the National Science Day celebrations, in New Delhi on February 28, 2017.
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The Union Minister for Science & Technology and Earth Sciences, Dr. Harsh Vardhan presenting the National Award for Outstanding efforts in Science & Technology Communication through Print Media including Books and Magazines to Dr. Ranjit Singh, Ludhiana, at the National Science Day celebrations, in New Delhi on February 28, 2017.
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The Union Minister for Science & Technology and Earth Sciences, Dr. Harsh Vardhan presenting the National Award for Outstanding efforts in Science & Technology Communication - Kalinga Foundation Trust, Bhubaneshwar, at the National Science Day celebrations, in New Delhi on February 28, 2017.
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The Union Minister for Science & Technology and Earth Sciences, Dr. Harsh Vardhan releasing a publication, at the National Science Day celebrations, in New Delhi on February 28, 2017. The Secretary, Ministry of Science & Technology & Earth Sciences, Shri Ashuthosh Sharma and other dignitaries are also seen.
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The Union Minister for Science & Technology and Earth Sciences, Dr. Harsh Vardhan addressing at the National Science Day celebrations, in New Delhi on February 28, 2017.
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The Union Minister for Science & Technology and Earth Sciences, Dr. Harsh Vardhan in a group photograph with the awardees, at the National Science Day celebrations, in New Delhi on February 28, 2017. The Secretary, Ministry of Science & Technology & Earth Sciences, Shri Ashuthosh Sharma is also seen.
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India celebrates National Science Day, in the memory of CV Raman (1888 – 1970), who discovered the Raman effect on Feb. 28, 1928. He is remembered by scholars not just as the first and only Indian scientist to win a Nobel Prize (Physics), but as a mentor and an avid lover of nature.

Raman believed that if you ask the right questions “nature will open the doors to her secrets,” said to Uma Parameswaran, the grandniece of Raman who also authored a biography on Raman.

Her father was a student of Raman’s when he made the Nobel-prize winning discovery that changed the way people “saw” light.

The experimental physicist was able to show that the wavelength of light changes as a beam passes through a medium and comes in contact with the molecules that make up the medium.

Only two years after he made the discovery he was selected for the prize, the first Indian at a time that India itself was under British rule. Many awardees are overcome by the enormity of their achievement when accepting the award but when Raman received his award in Stockholm, Sweden, the tears came when he saw that it was the British flag that was basking in the glory of his research.

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CV Raman’s spectrograph.
According to most accounts, the impetus for his research on this phenomena came while he was on his way to England on ship in 1921 for a conference, his first voyage outside the country.

Raman was captivated by the blue colour of the sea. The prevailing theory at the times was that the sea reflected the blue of the sky. He wrote an exploratory piece about the question in the journal Nature called “The Colour of the Sea.”

Raman’s subsequent work was grounded in earlier findings that light behaved like it consisted of particles instead of as a wave. In 1927, Arthur Holly Compton was awarded the Nobel for demonstrating the light scattering effect in x-rays. Raman was convinced he could show the same in visible light, and he did.


“The new phenomenon exhibits features even more startling than those discovered by Prof Compton with X-rays,” an Associated Press of India report says of his discovery of the Raman effect.

“The Raman effect has opened new routes to our knowledge of the structure of matter and has already given most important results,” the Nobel committee noted in its speech.

India’s most prolific scientist could have ended up remaining a civil servant if he hadn’t been so determined to pursue his passions. In 1907 he joined the Financial Civil Services as the Assistant Accountant General in Calcutta but continued his research work on the side. He would later join Calcutta University when he was offered the Palit Chair for Physics in 1917.

When he was a doctoral student Rajinder Singh, now a professor in Germany, was troubled to see that his counterparts were all choosing European scientists to write their thesis on. So he decided that he would write on an Indian scientist: CV Raman. Singh revealed in an interview that Raman was not just a brilliant physicist but also an active mentor. He had a keen eye for good students and recommended them readily for scholarships and positions.

“He encouraged a whole generation of scientists,” Parameswaran said. “As a person he was a lively speaker, he knew how to talk to the common person in a non-scientific way,” she said.

He loved children in his later life he used to take children from Bangalore schools into the lab and to open their eyes to the wonders of nature.

Raman went on to serve as the first Indian director of the Indian Institute of Science in Bangalore in 1933. He retired 15 years later and established the Raman Research Institute, which he led till the end of his days.

His deep attachment and curiosity for his natural surroundings was evident throughout his life. Raman loved to walk in the eucalyptus grove and his rose garden at the Raman Research Institute campus, Parameswaran said. In his new home too, Raman, frequently visited Cubbon park in the heart of the city. He died in Bangalore at the age of 82.

For someone who was surrounded by students and peers at the peak of scientific life in his later years, the physicist mostly worked alone. “As he lay on his deathbed, he wished he had made the windows of his room even lower and bigger so he could see the sky and garden,” Parameswaran recalled.

I think that India should really consider revising its science syllabus for schools and bring it in line with Vedic Science. Powerful stuff. It will make India a superpower in no time. If it wasnt for Vedic science do you think India could have got to Mars?

The Arabs had embarked upon the translation of Sanskrit texts from India much before that. According to Tabqatul Umam a delegation from India came to Baghdad in 771, some 250 years after the death of Aryabhatta. This delegation consisted of an astronomer called Kanaka, who carried with him a small library including a book titled Surya Siddhanta and works of Aryabhata and Brahamgupta.

We also find mention of translations of Varahmihir, Brihat Jatak, Krishna Avtar and Vishnu Puran in Kitabul Hind by Al Biruni

The long list of Sanskrit manuscripts that were translated into Arabic and catalogued in detail by Arab historian Ibn Nadeem in his classic Fehrist (Bibliographical index) is an of acknowledgement of the contribution that Indian sciences made in building the Golden Age of Islam.
 
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@The Eagle, I don't know why I got a warning. I was literally talking about these Indian ministers.
 
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@The Eagle, I don't know why I got a warning. I was literally talking about these Indian ministers.

Read the message and the post referring warning. PDF does not allow such unethical/non-civil language at all. Avoid use of such language and continue with discussion being productive to the topic.

Regards,
 
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I think this thread should be discussed at the India forum...
Or use modest title in foreign forums. For example, India science and technology is advanced
 
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With such an outrageous tile, the threads like this on international forums are doing more harm than help to India's reputation. Better keep it for less informed and less educated ultra-nationalistic masses in local languages.
 
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A thread from 2015 which was created without any link but based upon an ambition and expected potential. There was no need to reactivate the same by posting merely irrelevant articles of demise of scientist.

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