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India to get first presidency of BRICS Development Bank

India getting the first presidency is MEANINGLESS as it is on a rotantional basis, even China having the HQ of the back could be insignificant but it depends on who staffs the HQ- if it is a true multi-national staff then it doesn't matter ti is located in China but if it is staffed by mostly Chinese then that is a real concern for India and the other four partners.

India also needs to have an equal share as China- Chinese supremacy in this institution is unacceptable.


No the first presidency is NOT meaningless.The first president will set the agenda of the bank that will chart the course of the bank atleast for a couple of decades.

Also Chinese supremacy is not necessarily a bad thing as long as India too gets more power vis a vis others.
Infact I forsee BRICS dominated by the China and India in the future.

This is what I'd like clarity on- sure the top level guys will be from all 5 nations but the middle and low level staff should also reflect the multi-national nature of the bank and not be staffed by locals.



Anyway, I truly would like to see this bank grow to rival the Western (white man) dominated organisations such as the WB and IMF. South Africa is perhaps the 5th wheel in all this- they don't add much at all to the organisation either now or looking long term.

South Africa wasn't even included in the grouping initially.Russia had proposed a "BRIC".
But they got in at the behest of China later and others had to oblige since BRIC group was utterly irrelevant without China
South Africa is essentially a yes man of China in BRICS
 
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Also Chinese supremacy is not necessarily a bad thing as long as India too gets more power vis a vis others.
Infact I forsee BRICS dominated by the China and India in the future.
I agree but as long as India and China are on equal terms with the other 3 on a lower level of commitment, but looking long term there is no way India should have a lesser say than China. In the long term India and China will be the two dominate powers in Asia and the world, setting out a smaller slice of the pie for India from day one is inherently disadvantaging India and not reflecting the future realties. It is like the mess with the permanent UNSC seat now- India is on the outside looking in as foresight wasn't shown by India back in the 1950s.
 
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I agree but as long as India and China are on equal terms with the other 3 on a lower level of commitment, but looking long term there is no way India should have a lesser say than China. In the long term India and China will be the two dominate powers in Asia and the world, setting out a smaller slice of the pie for India from day one is inherently disadvantaging India and not reflecting the future realties. It is like the mess with the permanent UNSC seat now- India is on the outside looking in as foresight wasn't shown by India back in the 1950s.

India will get a bigger role in BRICS bank when it is deserving of it just like it will get UNSC permanent seat and veto when it becomes a strong military and economic power.
China can and will have a bigger share in BRICS Bank than everyone else for now because they are strong enough to warrant it.
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All we need to aim is capacity building for the moment,Everything else will fall in place when are capable.
 
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ndia will get a bigger role in BRICS bank when it is deserving of it
Riiiight, and if China is in control do you really think they would allow a major rival of theirs to at that point when India is an even bigger threat, get a greater share? No way.

ust like it will get UNSC permanent seat and veto when it becomes a strong military and economic power.
In an ideal world sure, but this is reality- the world doesn't work like this. India is home to 1/6th of the world's population, 3rd largest economy by PPP size, conventionally far stronger than France or the UK militarily etc etc

Who do you think is this just fair entity making this logical and fair decisions? Every nation needs to look out for its own interests both as they exist today and their long term interests.
 
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Riiiight, and if China is in control do you really think they would allow a major rival of theirs to at that point when India is an even bigger threat, get a greater share? No way.


In an ideal world sure, but this is reality- the world doesn't work like this. India is home to 1/6th of the world's population, 3rd largest economy by PPP size, conventionally far stronger than France or the UK militarily etc etc

Who do you think is this just fair entity making this logical and fair decisions? Every nation needs to look out for its own interests both as they exist today and their long term interests.

Did the US allow China anything? We did it anyways. When you are strong you don't need permission, and if you still haven't got everything you want yet, it's because you are not.


By saying you are third, you are not saying anything at all, here's why, America is far and away the greatest power on earth. Their power far out ranks entire Euro Zone.

To say your military is better than France and England sounds impressive, it isn't, and also not true, considering they can always count on NATO and America, while India not so much.


Don't be impatient, you think just because a bank is based in Dehli and have Indian president, you will have an equal say? You won't. Chinese influence is built on decades of hard work, those are tangible assets, the presidency and location is prestige.


One day maybe, but today, us working for you? You'll end up as our bitch.
 
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(Reuters) - Leaders of the BRICS emerging market nations launched a $100 billion development bank and a currency reserve pool on Tuesday in their first concrete step toward reshaping the Western-dominated international financial system.

The bank aimed at funding infrastructure projects in developing nations will be based in Shanghai and India will preside over its operations for the first five years, followed by Brazil and then Russia, leaders of the five-country group announced at a summit.

They also set up a $100 billion currency reserves pool to help countries forestall short-term liquidity pressures.

The long-awaited bank is the first major achievement of the BRICS countries - Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa - since they got together in 2009 to press for a bigger say in the global financial order created by Western powers after World War Two and centered on the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank.

The BRICS were prompted to seek coordinated action following an exodus of capital from emerging markets last year, triggered by the scaling back of U.S. monetary stimulus. The new bank reflects the growing influence of the BRICS, which account for almost half the world's population and about one-fifth of global economic output. The bank will begin with a subscribed capital of $50 billion divided equally between its five founders, with an initial total of $10 billion in cash put in over seven years and $40 billion in guarantees. It is scheduled to start lending in 2016 and be open to membership by other countries, but the capital share of the BRICS cannot drop below 55 percent. The contingency currency pool will be held in the reserves of each BRICS country and can be shifted to another member to cushion balance-of-payments difficulties. This initiative gathered momentum after the reverse in the flows of cheap dollars that fueled a boom in emerging markets for a decade. "It will help contain the volatility faced by diverse economies as a result of the tapering of the United States' policy of monetary expansion," Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff said.

"It is a sign of the times, which demand reform of the IMF," she told reporters at the close of the summit.

China, holder of the world's largest foreign exchange reserves, will contribute the bulk of the contingency currency pool, or $41 billion. Brazil, India and Russia will chip in $18 billion each and South Africa $5 billion. If a need arises, China will be eligible to ask for half of its contribution, South Africa for double and the remaining countries the amount they put in. Negotiations over the headquarters and first presidency were reached at the eleventh hour due to differences between India and China. The impasse reflected the trouble Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa have had in reconciling stark economic and political differences that made it hard for the group to turn rhetoric into concrete action.

"We pulled it off 10 minutes before the end of the game. We reached a balanced package that is satisfactory to all," a Brazilian diplomat told Reuters.

Negotiations to create the bank dragged on for more than two years as Brazil and India fought China's attempts to get a bigger share in the lender than the others.

In the end, Brazil and India prevailed in keeping equal equity at its launch, but fears linger that China, the world's No. 2 economy, could try to assert greater influence over the bank to expand its political clout abroad. China, however, will not preside over the bank for two decades.

Facing efforts by leading Western nations to isolate Russia for annexing Crimea and stirring revolt in eastern Ukraine, the BRICS summit provided President Vladimir Putin with a welcome geopolitical platform to show he has friends elsewhere, economic powers seen as shaping the future of the world.

The BRICS abstained from criticizing Russia over the crisis in Ukraine and called instead for restraint by all actors so the conflict can be resolved peacefully.

(Editing by Tom Brown and Jonathan Oatis)
 
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That's a great news..

overall everyone gains from this... .India, China, Russia, Brazil and SA

It doesn't matter who is the president and where it is. What matters is how democratically it functions and how much say every country has in it. Should be 1 vote each for every member on important decisions.
 
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