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India to gear up for 'star wars'

times of India , they have no idea what they are talking about.

The technology roadmap spelled out a number of things , all of which are years away.

PIT has been taken for a ride

and ToI is acting like ToI

Let ToI alone they are always there to add some masala , but you always seems to have negative thinking. Most of the systems either developed or under development and few need a fresh start. :pop:
 
Thank You, but this is not the place to display Ur Ignorance.... You came to the wrong thread...:wave: , and More over Question was when Will India demonstrate, not pakistan? so your answer is Not valied

your answer is given by a more mature indian lol. that's why i was laughing at this thread, however if you like, you can keep on dreaming like this.. :smitten: Here you go, in case you didn't read it yet. lool

times of India , they have no idea what they are talking about.

The technology roadmap spelled out a number of things , all of which are years away.

PIT has been taken for a ride

and ToI is acting like ToI
 
your answer is given by a more mature indian lol. that's why i was laughing at this thread, however if you like, you can keep on dreaming like this.. :smitten: Here you go, in case you didn't read it yet. lool

But You dont have Lisence to Insult us, think about it, we have a very progressive space Research, defense research..... So How can You just like that Insult our projects just to make Yourself happy? Is pakistan doing some thing? or at least dreaming as what u call?
 
No insults or what so ever intended, but this article title from your country was way off the mark, look here, forget about the technical stand point, just being realistic, can India afford the cost of the so-called "Star War"?

The URL of this article is: Rods from Gods: The insanity of Star Wars


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The lasting legacy of Ronald Wilson Reagan will be Star Wars and a bloated imperialist U.S. military budget. At the beginning of the recent war against Iraq, nearly two dozen years after Reagan first took office, his impact was plainly clear: the mainstream media pointed out that the U.S. military was estimated to be stronger than Rome at the height of her imperialism and stronger than Nazi Germany in 1940.

Reagan, starring in “The Return of the Cold War,” doubled President Carter’s military budget, increasing it from $145 billion to $290 billion in his first year. The Reagan-Bush Administration spent $1.5 trillion in their first five years, the largest military build-up during peacetime ever recorded. Star Wars was funded to the tune of tens of billions of dollars with the stated goal of nuclearizing space. But we were promised if the Soviet Union caved in there would be the mythical “peace dividend.” Americans would benefit from a much smaller military budget.

Then Bush the Elder assumed the Presidency and ushered in the first Gulf War, and the military budget remained at Cold War levels. With the fall of the Soviet Union and the election of Bill Clinton, a modest decrease in the defense budget placed it in the $270 billion range. Both Bush the Elder and Clinton allowed the Star Wars funding to lag. Now Bush the Younger has resurrected the dream of U.S. dominance of the Earth via the militarization of space.
 
No insults or what so ever intended, but this article title from your country was way off the mark, look here, forget about the technical stand point, just being realistic, can India afford the cost of the so-called "Star War"?

Star war was The media hype given to a simple article, where India is developing some future technologies, If You read The article , then You will understand that Its very much possible....

and Yes, India can afford it at any cost
 
Let ToI alone they are always there to add some masala , but you always seems to have negative thinking. Most of the systems either developed or under development and few need a fresh start. :pop:

The technology roadmap spelled out a number of things , most of which are years away.
It was a very long view document , taking to mind future technologies. development of lasers and rail-guns are all in the post 2020 agenda , or even further depending on the level of technology.
For this decade the emphasis is clearly on catching up to leading arms manufactures and achieving indiginisation of the armed forces at-least to 50% .


For those of you actually intrested in the actual MOD document

http://mod.nic.in/dpm/TPCR-2010.doc

Our budget as of yet , is far to small to come up with cutting edge technologies. It's not impossible but it is very difficult.

Rather than all these fancy lasers and magnet guns ,(which are important in the coming years)

I would prefer a proper Tejas, Arjun Mk-2

with the FMBT and NFGA being the next top priority.

Improvements to our Ballistic and ABM systems are also warrented.

F-INSAS , has to be pulled of with very little fuss.

The Arihant class and Stealth ships , need to perform to expectations.

development , absorption and induction of the FGFA

Etc

we already have a large plate with a lot to do , we need to focus on that.

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you can call me negative kinetic , but i am just being realistic.

India has been working on lasers for quite a while now, So have a lot of people , and many of them are years away from fielding anything , the same is true for India.

Maybe , a decade or two down the line when the technology exists , maybe we developed it our selves , it can be done , but talking about it now is pointless.

there are other things that we should worry about as a priority .

We should however not toss these initiatives or ideas to the way side they are still important , but at the same time they don't deserve the lime light as of yet
 
The technology roadmap spelled out a number of things , most of which are years away.
It was a very long view document , taking to mind future technologies. development of lasers and rail-guns are all in the post 2020 agenda , or even further depending on the level of technology.
For this decade the emphasis is clearly on catching up to leading arms manufactures and achieving indiginisation of the armed forces at-least to 50% .
Of course they are years away as it is 2010-2025 road map. But many of the technologies either developed or under development and some other need to be started (Space projects). If we don't start now how we will be able to use then by 2025?

You know in future we will need hi-tech futuristic weapons, if DRDO don't start development of those futuristic weapon now then how they will deliver them in future and how we will reduce dependencies on foreign countries? If IGMDP or BMD programmes were not started in early eighties or late nineties, we couldn't get their result now. Indian defence R&D is more mature now as well.
For those of you actually intrested in the actual MOD document

http://mod.nic.in/dpm/TPCR-2010.doc

Our budget as of yet , is far to small to come up with cutting edge technologies. It's not impossible but it is very difficult.

For development of those thing we don't need all the money now itself. We will allocate some money every year. Thats how big ticket long term projects work. The funny thing is, many years MoD returns some money to the FM they could not spend.

Rather than all these fancy lasers and magnet guns ,(which are important in the coming years)

I would prefer a proper Tejas, Arjun Mk-2

with the FMBT and NFGA being the next top priority.

Improvements to our Ballistic and ABM systems are also warrented.

F-INSAS , has to be pulled of with very little fuss.

The Arihant class and Stealth ships , need to perform to expectations.

development , absorption and induction of the FGFA

Etc

we already have a large plate with a lot to do , we need to focus on that.

All the projects you mentioned are underway equally. These are immediate requirements. But military planners need to see 15 years from now. Those futuristic one's development should start as well, if we doesn't want to fall behind in terms of technology.

you can call me negative kinetic , but i am just being realistic.

India has been working on lasers for quite a while now, So have a lot of people , and many of them are years away from fielding anything , the same is true for India.

Maybe , a decade or two down the line when the technology exists , maybe we developed it our selves , it can be done , but talking about it now is pointless.


dude they are not developing it tomorrow, they are atleast a decade away. so whats wrong with it?

there are other things that we should worry about as a priority .

We should however not toss these initiatives or ideas to the way side they are still important , but at the same time they don't deserve the lime light as of yet

The top priority is always our immediate needs but the MoD report is showing on what ground Indian armed forces should stand by 2025. If we don't start now we can never see those weapons by 2025. All of our immediate priorities like Arihant, LCA mk2, Arjun mk 2 etc will be inducted in next few years say six to seven but if we start these futuristic projects after complete immediate needs, as mentioned in the MoD report, we can never see them before 2030, that will be too late. Than again we may need to buy foreign systems.

Also all these technologies will help to upgrade our current systems underdevelopment or use.
 
If we are only looking to catch up we will never challenge the best, US, China, Russia, Europe.

The idea is to innovate and try to leapfrog current technology.

This is a good step.
 
for all the people blaming us for preparing, remember this: these technologies are highly advanced and will take years of research and development to master and field. we have to start today if we are to have it tomorrow

at least we are not sitting by idly laughing while the rest of the world passes by.
 
for all the people blaming us for preparing, remember this: these technologies are highly advanced and will take years of research and development to master and field. we have to start today if we are to have it tomorrow

at least we are not sitting by idly laughing while the rest of the world passes by.

True..our tomorrow will benefit coz of what we do today :tup:
 
india should invest billions of dollars into this. trillions even. well, trillion based on the size of india's economy.
 
i think Endia is planning to make a bollywood filim on star wars lol... cows will be actors there and cow dung will be seen as weapons of mass destruction.... lol...



....another case of ' growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional ' ?

Is something intended to be conveyed something by deliberately mis spelling India ?

Post # 8 has dealt with the rest.
 
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@ Indian Army and others.

Please dont bother replying.....encounter and contender seem to be some of our old friends who were Killed in Action (read Banned for trolling) at PDF :lol:
 
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