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India to buy 60-63 Rafales jets off the shelf from France; MMRCA deal off:

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I just gave the Mistral example to explain the commitment part.

We have moved on. This is what moving on looks like.



Provide link that shows Modi took kickback as party funds. I am sick and tired of such baseless self serving allegations. If you can't at least have the decency to apologize for your comment.

AAP is a joke. But if you want to support it, do so with integrity. Not with cheap AAP tactics like throwing mud and praying that it will stick.
Narendra Modi’s incorruptibility | Millennium Post
Yet, ‘all our interlocutors acknowledge that Modi is a modest man who, unlike many elected officials in India, has not used his position to enrich himself or his family. Most contacts also say that he has purged the state administration of petty corruption at the mid- and lower levels of the bureaucracy. However, several people tell us that big ticket corruption is still common.’ Now comes the meaty party, which has (or lacks) as much truth value as ‘Modi-is-incorruptible’ line: ‘Journalist Javed Rahmatullah claimed that Reliance Industries Ltd. (RIL) paid a large bribe for permission to expand its refinery in Jamnagar. The money went into the BJP’s party coffers, Rahmatullah claimed, and not to Modi or any other individual. Other contacts have told us that business money flows to the BJP in Gujarat, but nobody had been this specific. We have been unable to verify Rahmatullah’s claim.’
If we wait a bit, some fan may soon tweet: Modi is incorruptible, says Mukesh Ambani.

Keep aside your AAP is joke comment. I have seen how they worked in delhi. Delhi which is already smart city now voted for AAP. Like this comment i can also say so many things to BJP. Bhartheeya Jumla Party we have already seen how they were taking anti-national stand in every project. One of the big neusense in the case of this Rafale deal is subbu swami.

By the way, Every one who is not bhakth can easily know that source of party fund for BJP/congress comes from where. Go interact with local MLA, just see how they solve the issue which need money.

By the way, when it comes to congres or AAP you can run away saying they are corrupt without proving anything. when it comes to BJP only if court says you will blive :)

Keep side corruption, its not hard to guess who murdered Haren Pandya.

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2000: The Indian Air Force expresses interest in buying medium multi-role combat aircraft to replace Soviet-era MiG-21s. Over the years, the ageing MiG-21s have been involved in multiple accidents.

2001: The Indian Air Force issues requests for information for 126 combat jets. But there is little activity for the next six years.

2007: The Indian government issues tenders for 126 MMRCAs, for an estimated cost of Rs42,000 crore ($6.7 billion, now). The request for proposal is issued to six vendors: Russia’s MIG-35 (RAC MiG); Sweden’s JAS-39 (Saab); French Rafale (Dassault); American F-16 Falcon (Lockheed Martin); Boeing’s F/A-18 Super Hornet and Eurofighter Typhoon (made by a consortium of British, German, Spanish and Italian firms).

2008: US majors Boeing and Lockheed Martin, Russia’s United Aircraft Corporation, France’s Dassault, European consortium’s European Aeronautic Defense and Space Company (EADS) and Saab submit their bids.

2011: The defence ministry says it will start discussions with Dassault and EADS. The ministry tells American companies Boeing and Lockheed Martin that their proposals have been rejected.

2012: India shortlists Dassault, after it submits the lowest bids for the deal. According to the RFP, the winner of the contract would supply 18 of the 126 aircraft to the Indian Air Force in 36 months from its facilities, and the remaining would be produced at Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd plant in Bangalore.

2013: Negotiations continue during the year.

2014: India decides to put the deal on hold due to budgetary constraints until 2015. Dassault remains hopeful.

2015: After three years of negotiations with Dassault, Modi announces on April 10 that he has ordered 36 “ready-to-fly” Rafale fighter jets from Dassault. A day later, Parrikar indicates that the move is the right direction, and says that in future India would deal directly with the French government instead of the aviation company.

How lengthy is the procedure, i wonder why only UPA had to take the blame for delay! When 2000 to 2004 nothing happened.
 
Narendra Modi’s incorruptibility | Millennium Post
Yet, ‘all our interlocutors acknowledge that Modi is a modest man who, unlike many elected officials in India, has not used his position to enrich himself or his family. Most contacts also say that he has purged the state administration of petty corruption at the mid- and lower levels of the bureaucracy. However, several people tell us that big ticket corruption is still common.’ Now comes the meaty party, which has (or lacks) as much truth value as ‘Modi-is-incorruptible’ line: ‘Journalist Javed Rahmatullah claimed that Reliance Industries Ltd. (RIL) paid a large bribe for permission to expand its refinery in Jamnagar. The money went into the BJP’s party coffers, Rahmatullah claimed, and not to Modi or any other individual. Other contacts have told us that business money flows to the BJP in Gujarat, but nobody had been this specific. We have been unable to verify Rahmatullah’s claim.’
If we wait a bit, some fan may soon tweet: Modi is incorruptible, says Mukesh Ambani.

Keep aside your AAP is joke comment. I have seen how they worked in delhi. Delhi which is already smart city now voted for AAP. Like this comment i can also say so many things to BJP. Bhartheeya Jumla Party we have already seen how they were taking anti-national stand in every project. One of the big neusense in the case of this Rafale deal is subbu swami.

By the way, Every one who is not bhakth can easily know that source of party fund for BJP/congress comes from where. Go interact with local MLA, just see how they solve the issue which need money.

By the way, when it comes to congres or AAP you can run away saying they are corrupt without proving anything. when it comes to BJP only if court says you will blive :)

Keep side corruption, its not hard to guess who murdered Haren Pandya.

LOL. What kind of Rubbish is this ? the empty claim of a frustrated muslim "Javed Rahmatullah" is the proof ? :lol:

Rakhi Sawant told me that you are a Rapist. So that must be true too. :cheesy:

Now that I know you are a aaptard, not point in have a rational conversation with you. What a waste of time.

Finally Yasin Bhatkal has already revealed who killed Haren Pandya :lol:

Haren Pandya killing ‘mastermind’ was at Pak meeting: IM's Akhtar - Indian Express
 
LOL. What kind of Rubbish is this ? the empty claim of a frustrated muslim "Javed Rahmatullah" is the proof ? :lol:

Rakhi Sawant told me that you are a Rapist. So that must be true too. :cheesy:

Now that I know you are a aaptard, not point in have a rational conversation with you. What a waste of time.

Finally Yasin Bhatkal has already revealed who killed Haren Pandya :lol:

Haren Pandya killing ‘mastermind’ was at Pak meeting: IM's Akhtar - Indian Express


Trust me don't waste time arguing with him, he's a resident Modi/bjp hater, religious bias actually, anyone whose been around for long would know
 
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Antony’s questions killed Rafale tender process: Manohar Parrikar: Hindustan Times.

Manohar Parrikar took over as defence minister in November 2014 after two successful stints as the Goa chief minister.

India’s multi-billion tender process to buy 126 advanced warplanes was doomed from the start because UPA defence minister AK Antony had put a “question mark” on the deal, defence minister Manohar Parrikar has said .

Speaking to Hindustan Times, Parrikar questioned the medium multirole combat aircraft (MMRCA) tendering process, picking holes in the method employed to determine French firm Dassault Aviation as the lowest bidder (L1) in the final round of the competition. According to the defence minister, the UPA government had taken hold of the “wrong end of the stick”.

India has scrapped the $25-billion deal more than three years after Dassault, which manufactures the Rafale, was declared the lowest bidder, with Prime Minister Narendra Modi opting instead to buy 36 of these jets from France in a fly-away condition under a government-to-government (G2G) contract.

“The previous defence minister had himself put a question mark (on the deal’s future) by saying go for price negotiations (with L1) but after that, review the procedure by which L1 was determined… It’s a funny statement… Concluding the deal would have been extremely difficult for us,” Parrikar told HT in his Kota House suite on the eve of a four-day visit to South Korea. Attired in a familiar blue bush shirt, Parrikar said the L1 figure in the fighter contract was determined by factoring in a questionable life-cycle cost model.

The Rafale had beaten stiff competition from the Eurofighter Typhoon to emerge the frontrunner for the contract in January 2012. Six fighters took part in the contest.

Parrikar said the request for proposal (tender) was probably not a great document as it left a lot to “interpretation and imagination.”

He said it wasn’t prudent to take the tender route to buy critical platforms such as warplanes.

“How do you compare various varieties of planes? You may take a benchmark and say these two (fighters) are above the benchmark, but again how do you compare a particular missile with another missile?” said Parrikar. He said even if multiple fighter platforms met the IAF’s requirements of combat radius, rate of climb and angle of attack, the type and number of missiles fitted on the planes could make the difference in their “effective operation”.

“I believe such strategic platforms (in a non-nuclear sense) cannot be compared with each other that easily. Suppose one costs a million dollars more than the other but has a more effective missile. Technically, it may be costlier but it is better as it has longer stand-off range,” he said, suggesting the G2G route for “strategic” buys.

The usually amiable Parrikar could not resist taking a dig at Congress leader Digvijaya Singh, who ridiculed him on Twitter for buying fish in Goa when Modi was ordering fighters in France. “Digvijaya Singh should eat fish. It will sharpen his brains,” Parrikar said.

Parrikar moved to an Akbar Road residence on Wednesday after staying in the navy’s Kota House for four months.
 
FYI Arihant reactor working at 70 mw steam power is really fantastic against 85 mw steam power of Nerpa. Nerpa is 8000 ton while Arihant is 6000 ton only. Do your math and see what you find out. Thank you.
I think Nerpa is 190 MW and the pwr we are using in arihant is 83 MW
please correct me if I am wrong
 
I think Nerpa is 190 MW and the pwr we are using in arihant is 83 MW
please correct me if I am wrong
You are absolutely correct mate. But that is only one of looking at the power required to propel the boat. What I am saying that Nerpa has 185-190 mw nuke reactor with peak steam power generation rated at 85 mw. While Arihant has 80-85 mw nuke reactor with stablised steam power rated at 70 mw. I have just read these specks online. Not sure whether genuine or not.
 
I think Nerpa is 190 MW and the pwr we are using in arihant is 83 MW
please correct me if I am wrong
You are absolutely correct mate. But that is only one of looking at the power required to propel the boat. What I am saying that Nerpa has 185-190 mw nuke reactor with peak steam power generation rated at 85 mw. While Arihant has 80-85 mw nuke reactor with stablised steam power rated at 70 mw. I have just read these specks online. Not sure whether genuine or not.
Nerpa
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Arihant

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I think you are talking about george fernandes.. belongs to JDU.

And really a great way to deal with corruption. just dnt make any decision. Like we say no work no problem :lol:
Even national security at high risk? What a idiot point to prove yourself right.

This is much much required deal and that MF antony did nothing.
Also Bangaru laxman..
That is why the tender and the detailed list of requirements which are to be met by the competing Aircraft Manufacturer. Indian Govt should have sued Dassaul's asses for breaking the terms of the contract, but this stupid govt has done just the opposite and gave in to their deamns. Dumbshit bjp!
 
Indian Govt should have sued Dassaul's asses for breaking the terms of the contract,
No contract was ever signed so nothing has been broken.

but this stupid govt has done just the opposite and gave in to their deamns. Dumbshit bjp!

Or to put it another way the GoI took action to address a deadlock that had existed for over three years and now we are finally seeing progress.
 

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