India to Build, Export T-50 Stealth Fighter by 2020

[faithfulguy]

An American of Taiwanese origin dedicated his life thinking about India's military might and its future!
I am seeing you for last few years, so don't say I need to look into what you think and write.



F-22 and T-50 coast higher than mentioned. And don't know about Chinese J-20, even if costs 5 million, everyone has to believe.

I speak up more recently when itsc about India predicting bout it's superpower future. I just don't want you to embarrass yourself.

 

[Tshering22]

Are you sure LCA will be done by 2020?

Well we won't bother hiding its capabilities unlike how you don't compete with the world air forces for the fear that they realize your capabilities.

I speak up more recently when itsc about India predicting bout it's superpower future. I just don't want you to embarrass yourself.

Our defenses are good enough to protect ourselves; which is our objective. Unlike your Communist rivals, our objective is not to expand like cuckoo, citing centuries old reasons which are invalid in UN.

Please focus on getting new weapons from other countries than the US that is more pleased with your communist rivals than you lot. I'd recommend you get Rafales from France; they're truly neutral.

 

[Sergi]

I think that 50 million price of T-50 is correct after all it has nothing inside right now. B
ut PAK-FA won't come down 100 million price tag

 

[Mitro]

We are not able to integrate the technology of 90"s e.g in phase 4 in sukhoi development we should have indeginius parts upto 50-55% but we are no way near and our target of manufacturing of sukhoi 30 is around 12 aircraft but we hardly make 8 or 9 per year http://http://indiatoday.intoday.in...-and-ijts-hits-indian-air-force/1/188918.html

 

[Juice]

Basically I take the unit costs from wiki
Weapons and other extras will increase the price tag.

But once again, stealth fighters reportedly can be detected by a new generation of passive radars. And destroyed!

They could always be detected....at what range and well enough to lock are the questions.

 

[Paan Singh]

Pak Fa will go beyond 100 million and f-22 is 350 million per copy

i read some where.

 

[Esc8781]

Pak Fa will go beyond 100 million and f-22 is 350 million per copy

i read some where.

The f-22 is 150 million a piece.

 

[Edevelop]

Another future thread...
When will they first make LCA ? lol

 

[KRAIT]

Another future thread...
When will they first make LCA ? lol

Seriously cb4, this type of post from you. Not expected.

Buddy, this is a joint venture like you have with China for JF-17. First prototype of FGFA will be delivered by 2014 and two will folow subsequently. What India is going to have is MKIsed version of Pak-FA been manufactured and undergoing development and trials. BTW read the article first and FGFA information pool too.

@Off-topic-but required
For LCA, it is up and running. We had many setbacks especially due to our engine development which is not a surprise for me at least as only handful of countries has developed their own jet engines. Its in limited serial production and FOC to be given by this years end after trials of course.

Also to mention that India has also developed its own LCH too.

So buddy, next time you use LCA, first think of other products that we did manage to build by ourselves.

 

[faithfulguy]

Seriously cb4, this type of post from you. Not expected.


So buddy, next time you use LCA, first think of other products that we did manage to build by ourselves.

T-50 success potential is dependent on Russia. So it's possible that India may receive the export version in 10 years. Lca is a completely Indian project. As India is inexperienced in building jet fighters, it's no surprise that there are delays and failures, such as the engine.

 

[KRAIT]

T-50 success potential is dependent on Russia. So it's possible that India may receive the export version in 10 years. Lca is a completely Indian project. As India is inexperienced in building jet fighters, it's no surprise that there are delays and failures, such as the engine.

Exactly my point. But people ignore the technicality and starts bashing. When these projects are carried out, the technology developed goes to other industrial sectors too. Even the engine won't be a failure as it is most probably be used for Indian UCAV and SNECMA help is taken to develop it.

The prototypes will arrive soon so I don't find any problem with the time frame to be honest.

 

[cirr]

you guys overlook the fact that 2020 is the minister‘s most optimistic estimate。

with luck，India will see the induction of first “whatever” around 2025.

 

[rcrmj]

you guys overlook the fact that 2020 is the minister‘s most optimistic estimate。

with luck，India will see the induction of first “whatever” around 2025.

induction of first Indian version Prototype by that time```i'd say

 

[Edevelop]

Seriously cb4, this type of post from you. Not expected.

Buddy, this is a joint venture like you have with China for JF-17. First prototype of FGFA will be delivered by 2014 and two will folow subsequently. What India is going to have is MKIsed version of Pak-FA been manufactured and undergoing development and trials. BTW read the article first and FGFA information pool too.

@Off-topic-but required
For LCA, it is up and running. We had many setbacks especially due to our engine development which is not a surprise for me at least as only handful of countries has developed their own jet engines. Its in limited serial production and FOC to be given by this years end after trials of course.

Also to mention that India has also developed its own LCH too.

So buddy, next time you use LCA, first think of other products that we did manage to build by ourselves.

Pakistan's case is different. It has been using F-16s since early 80s. After all those years with experience and judging its capability, Pakistan decided it wanted to make JF-17 like the F-16 that would be sanction proof. The JV was turned out as follows: PAF provided F-16 aircrafts along with pilots, technicians, and engineers whereas China provided the fundamentals of reverse engineering.

@ your issue: LCA is claimed to be 'purely indigenous'. Now don't get me wrong, but it is supposed to be in the league of Mirage 2000. Considering the fact that it is in 'development mode' for the last 2 decades and conintues to push ahead further, it should reflect India's Aeronautical Engineering expertise. If that is the domestic case, then imagine how hard must the the Pak-Fa, stealth fighter project be. The bottom line is, India has no expertise or experience. I'm guessing that this 'JV' is for only financial purpose that will get India ready made technology....

 

[janon]

Pakistan's case is different. It has been using F-16s since early 80s. After all those years with experience and judging its capability, Pakistan decided it wanted to make JF-17 like the F-16 that would be sanction proof. Note it wasn't like Pakistan had smarter engineers, but was due to reverse engineering.

@ your issue: LCA is claimed to be 'purely indigenous'. Now don't get me wrong, but it is supposed to be in the league of Mirage 2000. Considering the fact that it is in 'development mode' for the last 2 decades and conintues to push ahead further, it should reflect India's Aeronautical Engineering expertise. If that is the domestic case, then imagine how hard must the the Pak-Fa, stealth fighter project. The bottom line is, India has no expertise or experience. I'm guessing that this 'JV' is for only financial purpose that will get India ready made technology....

Reverse engineering by China. You make it sound like Pakistan did the reverse engineering themselves. You have done neither engineering nor reverse engineering of 4th generation fighters. Or any fighters for that matter.

Then it won't be called a joint venture, it will be called transfer of technology. We are not calling the rafale a joint venture, because we are paying for transfer of ready made technology and know-how. We call it a JV only if it is a JV. So your "guess" is not on the basis of India's previous behavior, but because of your own prejudices where you want to put down your adversaries come what may.