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Yes sir.. please let us poor, hungry and under nourished Indians be..Thank you for your concern.. :azn:

About accomplishments, are these yours??

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Pakistan is a ‘failed state’, says US Congressman

Those are just individual opinions based on personal biases or unmet expectations. It is these same people who are fond of calling states that challenge them "rogue states" and "axis-of-evil" etc.

There are also people who believe that US is a "rogue state" from their perspective. There is even a former US assistant secretary Paul Craig Robets who says US is a "sponsor of terrorism".

Paul Craig Roberts: A Religion Divided Against Itself

Then there is Indian analyst Bharat Verma who says India is failed stare.

It's all in the eyes of the beholder.
 
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Those are just individual opinions based on personal biases or unmet expectations. It is these same people who are fond of calling states that challenge them "rogue states" and "axis-of-evil" etc.

There are also people who believe that US is a "rogue state" from their perspective. There is even a former US assistant secretary Paul Craig Robets who says US is a "sponsor of terrorism".

Paul Craig Roberts: A Religion Divided Against Itself

Then there is Indian analyst Bharat Verma who says India is failed stare.

It's all in the eyes of the beholder.

so by saying all this crap what do u want to prove Mr.Haq ? Or is it just to satisfy you child like ego ? Because the reality is not even near what your musings are saying. GROW UP.
 
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so by saying all this crap what do u want to prove Mr.Haq ? Or is it just to satisfy you child like ego ? Because the reality is not even near what your musings are saying. GROW UP.

Dude why do you reply to him like that.
Here is my reply.

India is failed economy.
We do not know how to manage economy and have worst possible finance ministers and our PM does not know a thing about economics. It seems he never went to school.

We borrow more to spend because our target for future is to become absolutely failed state, like Somalia.

Thanks for your insightful post, we could have made our economy stronger by your help but out goal is different. Please help your country.
 
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A grant based economy? Let's get our facts straight.

Do you know that total aid to Pakistan, including grants AND soft loans, has dramatically declined as percent of its economy? It used to be around 8-10% in 1960s when Pak was a member of CENTO-SEATO. Now it's no more than 2-3%, in spite of all the noise to the contrary. Much of it has been replaced by FDI, trade and remittances etc.

Impact of Foreign Aid on Economic Development in Pakistan [1960-2002] - Munich RePEc Personal Archive

FDI and trade huh? By your admission, Pakistan continues to receive foreign aid worth 2-3% of GDP.

And in comparison, net foreign investment in Pakistan accounted for 0.5% of its GDP -

Pakistan (03/09)

And Pakistan has in the past fooled the IMF so as to get more funds -

In 2000, Pakistani government admitted that the previous administration fudged tax data it gave to the IMF, thereby encouraging the fund to provide more money that might otherwise have been withheld.

http://www9.georgetown.edu/faculty/jrv24/Pakistans_Debt_of_Gratitude.pdf

And trade? In 2008, Pakistan had a trade deficit equivalent to 9.24 percent of GDP.

Free Article for Non-Members | STRATFOR

So, you were saying that FDI and trade, and not foreign aid, are bringing Pakistan much needed foreign currency? :lol:

And back to the topic of this thread, you are taunting India as to how it is borrowing more and spending more. Agreed that India has a higher public debt as a percentage of GDP compared to that of Pakistan.

But have you checked your country's external debt? In 2009, Pakistan had an external debt equivalent to 31.23% of GDP ($52bil/$166.5bil) and India had an external debt of 19.72% of GDP ($216bil/$1095bil).

https://www.cia.gov/library/publica...stan&countryCode=pk&regionCode=sas&rank=57#pk

India's debt is almost equivalent to 80% of GDP but its owes more than 90% of that money to its own citizens. That factor immensely negates the adverse impact of high debt.

Compared to West, Asia Has Few Debt Problems - NYTimes.com

The same is not the case with Pakistan. But obviously, you ignored this fact to serve your own bias.

And here is another interesting fact, in 2008 Pakistan's current account deficit was equivalent to 6.886 percent of GDP compared to India's deficit of 3.071 percent of GDP.

Report for Selected Countries and Subjects

It seems that you are constantly posting non-sense articles so as to advertise your forum - Haq's Musings or whatever.

Continue.
 
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The saying little knowledge is a dangerous thing holds particularly true for this man. He deviates and also fudges data intelligently and changes statements as needed.

Anyway, as portrayed, India unlike Pakistan is not a total aid receiver, it is also an aid giver. Lets look at some figures

India receives as much as US $654 million in grants but gives out more than 200million as aid to other poor and developing nations

-India has announced US $ 5.4 billion to African countries
HIGH COMMISSION OF INDIA MARITIUS

-Duty free import scheme for 50 Least Developed Countries

-Doubled the number of fellowships given to students from African and Asian countries

-From 2002, to 2006, $650 million had been pledged to India’s Assistance Program for Afghanistan.
* $100 million grant (2001-02)
* $70 million grant to build the Zarang-Delaram Highway
* $200,000 to the World Bank’s Afghanistan Reconstruction Trust Fund (2002)
* $4 million grant to repair and build the Indira Gandhi Institute of Child Health in Kabul (2003)
* $4 million grant to build the Habibba School
* $52 million to the World Food Programme, for Afghanistan and Iraq (India is today a net donor to the WFP and IMF).
* $25 million to build the Afghan parliament in Kabul
* A gift of 3 Airbus airplanes to Ariana, the Afghan national carrier.

Details of Indian Assistance to the Interim Administration of Afghanistan
http://www.un.int/india/2003/ind802.pdf
India Development Initiative to aid developing nations: Jalan - International Business - Biz - The Times of India

-$218 million in economic aid to Nepal (summer 2006). This is in addition to previous loan waivers for military supplies.
-$40 million to Angola, for a railway project managed by RITES, Indian Railway’s consultancy division.
-Support and upgrade of the Farkhor Air Force base in Tajikistan (since 2004).
Farkhor Air Base - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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This program comes under the Indian Technical and Economic Cooperation Program, or ITEC, and was established in 1964!!

Indian Technical And Economic Cooperation DivisionMinistry Of External Affairs

-ITEC covers 156 countries, together with the Special Commonwealth African Assistance Programme (SCAAP).

- Both programs are run by the Economic Division of the Ministry of External Affairs (MEA).

- The MEA also runs the Indian Council of Cultural Relations, which provides assistance and programs to improve cultural ties, for instance through student and teacher exchange programs.

- The ITEC’s official aid budget is roughly Rs. 500 million, annually, and over $2 billion has been disbursed since its inception.

Whereas in contrast Pakistan just gets aid and has no program in such magnitude to help other countries!
 
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FDI and trade huh? By your admission, Pakistan continues to receive foreign aid worth 2-3% of GDP.

And in comparison, net foreign investment in Pakistan accounted for 0.5% of its GDP -

Pakistan (03/09)

And Pakistan has in the past fooled the IMF so as to get more funds -



http://www9.georgetown.edu/faculty/jrv24/Pakistans_Debt_of_Gratitude.pdf

And trade? In 2008, Pakistan had a trade deficit equivalent to 9.24 percent of GDP.

Free Article for Non-Members | STRATFOR

So, you were saying that FDI and trade, and not foreign aid, are bringing Pakistan much needed foreign currency? :lol:

And back to the topic of this thread, you are taunting India as to how it is borrowing more and spending more. Agreed that India has a higher public debt as a percentage of GDP compared to that of Pakistan.

But have you checked your country's external debt? In 2009, Pakistan had an external debt equivalent to 31.23% of GDP ($52bil/$166.5bil) and India had an external debt of 19.72% of GDP ($216bil/$1095bil).

https://www.cia.gov/library/publica...stan&countryCode=pk&regionCode=sas&rank=57#pk

India's debt is almost equivalent to 80% of GDP but its owes more than 90% of that money to its own citizens. That factor immensely negates the adverse impact of high debt.

Compared to West, Asia Has Few Debt Problems - NYTimes.com

The same is not the case with Pakistan. But obviously, you ignored this fact to serve your own bias.

And here is another interesting fact, in 2008 Pakistan's current account deficit was equivalent to 6.886 percent of GDP compared to India's deficit of 3.071 percent of GDP.

Report for Selected Countries and Subjects

It seems that you are constantly posting non-sense articles so as to advertise your forum - Haq's Musings or whatever.

Continue.

You pick up bits and pieces of data here and there while missing the big picture.

Pakistan's overall debt-gdp ratio is still better than India's, in spite of heavy borrowing recently.

If it wasn't remittances, trade and FDI over the last 40 years, what do you think brought down Pakistan's aid component from 8-10% of its GDP to 2-3%? As far as I know, Pakistan hasn't discovered vast oil reserves.

Pakistan was an FDI success story until 2007-2008. Prior to that, India’s cumulative stock of FDI at 6 per cent of GDP at the end of 2005 was less than 9 per cent for Pakistan, 14 per cent for China, and 61 per cent for Vietnam.

It's true that FDI in Pak has declined recently, but the remittances have picked up.


Talking about foreign direct investment (FDI) in emerging economies, former US Federal Reserve Chief Alan Greenspan says: “But clearly the Licence Raj (in India) has discouraged foreign direct investment. India received $7 billion in FDI in 2005, a sum dwarfed by China’s $72 billion. India’s cumulative stock of FDI at 6 per cent of GDP at the end of 2005 compares with 9 per cent for Pakistan, 14 per cent for China, and 61 per cent for Vietnam. The reason FDI has lagged badly in India is perhaps no better illustrated than by India’s unwillingness to fully embrace market forces. That is all too evident in India’s often statist response to economic problems. Faced with rising food inflation in early 2007, the response was not to allow rising prices to prompt an increase in supply, but to ban wheat exports for the rest of the year and suspend futures trading to ‘curb speculation’ — the very market forces that the Indian economy needs to break the stranglehold of bureaucracy.” (p. 322 of "The Age of Turbulence" by Alan Greenspan.)

Haq's Musings: Record Profits Repatriated From Pakistan

If you want to learn more, please read the following:

Haq's Musings: Aid, Trade, Investments and Remittances in Asia and Africa
 
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The saying little knowledge is a dangerous thing holds particularly true for this man. He deviates and also fudges data intelligently and changes statements as needed.

Anyway, as portrayed, India unlike Pakistan is not a total aid receiver, it is also an aid giver. Lets look at some figures

India receives as much as US $654 million in grants but gives out more than 200million as aid to other poor and developing nations

-India has announced US $ 5.4 billion to African countries
HIGH COMMISSION OF INDIA MARITIUS

-Duty free import scheme for 50 Least Developed Countries

-Doubled the number of fellowships given to students from African and Asian countries

-From 2002, to 2006, $650 million had been pledged to India’s Assistance Program for Afghanistan.
* $100 million grant (2001-02)
* $70 million grant to build the Zarang-Delaram Highway
* $200,000 to the World Bank’s Afghanistan Reconstruction Trust Fund (2002)
* $4 million grant to repair and build the Indira Gandhi Institute of Child Health in Kabul (2003)
* $4 million grant to build the Habibba School
* $52 million to the World Food Programme, for Afghanistan and Iraq (India is today a net donor to the WFP and IMF).
* $25 million to build the Afghan parliament in Kabul
* A gift of 3 Airbus airplanes to Ariana, the Afghan national carrier.

Details of Indian Assistance to the Interim Administration of Afghanistan
http://www.un.int/india/2003/ind802.pdf
India Development Initiative to aid developing nations: Jalan - International Business - Biz - The Times of India

-$218 million in economic aid to Nepal (summer 2006). This is in addition to previous loan waivers for military supplies.
-$40 million to Angola, for a railway project managed by RITES, Indian Railway’s consultancy division.
-Support and upgrade of the Farkhor Air Force base in Tajikistan (since 2004).
Farkhor Air Base - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

6 billion for nigeria
The Hindu : Business / Briefly : ONGC, Mittal plan refinery in Nigeria


This program comes under the Indian Technical and Economic Cooperation Program, or ITEC, and was established in 1964!!

Indian Technical And Economic Cooperation DivisionMinistry Of External Affairs

-ITEC covers 156 countries, together with the Special Commonwealth African Assistance Programme (SCAAP).

- Both programs are run by the Economic Division of the Ministry of External Affairs (MEA).

- The MEA also runs the Indian Council of Cultural Relations, which provides assistance and programs to improve cultural ties, for instance through student and teacher exchange programs.

- The ITEC’s official aid budget is roughly Rs. 500 million, annually, and over $2 billion has been disbursed since its inception.

Whereas in contrast Pakistan just gets aid and has no program in such magnitude to help other countries!

So you are proud of the fact that India receives lot of foreign aid, gives a little bit of it to others, while half of its children are starving?

Haq's Musings: Malnutrition Challenge in India, Pakistan
 
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India is moving in the right direction and will overcome poverty in coming years.
 
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India may become global software superpower by 2020: report
New Delhi, Mar 14 (PTI)

India can well become the 'software superpower' of the world by 2020, but all depends on investments in workforce development and country-level infrastructure, a report by IT research firm Gartner said.

The report on the information and communication technology sector analyses three probable scenarios for it, which requires new investments in education and infrastructure development for supporting continued growth.

The scenario considered most promising in the future envisages the country to become the global leader in IT innovation by the end of the next decade.

"The third scenario is most probable. Here, India is most likely to become the software superpower of the world by 2020, provided the country's infrastructure and soft skill development is completed as per plans and India continues to maintain its competitive advantage," Gartner's Distinguished Analyst Regional Research Director (India) Partha Iyengar said.

In this scenario, India would have world-class infrastructure and innovative business-centered workers who graduate from college in sufficient number and quality to meet the needs of the domestic and global export market, the report said.

At present, the United States is considered the leader in IT software, with the country boasting of giants such as Microsoft, Apple, Hewlett Packard and Cisco.

The country is forecast to reach the pinnacle of the world's software market if strong steps are taken to improve infrastructure led by revamped policies to attract global foreign direct investments.

The other two possibilities, which have been considered in Gartner's report include, scenario one in which the IT industry would become completely inward looking and go back to the 1990-96 era of irrelevance from a global perspective.

However, the report stated, "this scenario is the bleakest for India."
Another future possibility is the second scenario, where the IT industry continues growing, but struggles in terms of moving to higher-value work delivered out of India and its overall importance in the global IT landscape starts to diminish.

The report stated that this scenario is possible when political and social disputes prevent any significant progress, despite incremental steps to improve India's infrastructure.

The growth drivers for the IT industry include high growth of economy, primary education revamp, high quality labour pool and increased global geopolitical influence in the country.

"Strengthening any of the drivers would move India closer to Scenario 3," the report added.

India may become global software superpower by 2020: Gartner
 
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India to outpace China in 15 years: Australian mining giant

The global mining giant is optimistic that China and India would continue to drive the economic growth in the region as their insatiable demand for iron ore, coal and aluminium does not show any sign of abating in the near future.

Melbourne, March 16: India would outpace China in GDP growth within 15 years, Anglo-Australian mining giant Rio Tinto has predicted in its annual report released Tuesday.

'As China nears the top of the commodity intensity usage curve, India is expected to follow, supporting a further potential wave of strong commodity demand,' Rio Tinto chief executive Tom Albanese says in the report.

The Asian economic powerhouses' demand for Australian resources, according to Albanese, would continue to rise exponentially in the next decade-and-a-half.

The global mining giant is optimistic that China and India would continue to drive the economic growth in the region as their insatiable demand for iron ore, coal and aluminium does not show any sign of abating in the near future.

Irrespective of the long-term predictions about India beating China in the demand for the Australian resources, Rio Tinto would continue to focus on China as the most crucial market. The long term strategy of one of world's leading miners, however, has India clearly in its sights.

'...higher demand from China and potentially India, as a result of high rates of economic growth and urbanisation trends in those countries, could contribute further to increases in world production volumes in the long term,' the annual report reads.

In a significant development, Rio Tinto made the first-ever iron ore sale to India late last year when a 160,000 tonne shipment was sent to Indian steelmaker Essar.

Rio Tinto is also in the process of launching an iron ore project in India's Orissa state. It has a 51 percent stake in a joint venture with state-owned Orissa Mining Corp. Rio plans to supply iron ore to the growing Indian market from this project.


India to outpace China in 15 years Australian mining giant
 
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IMF Upbeat on India Growth


By JAMES GLYNN

SYDNEY -- An upbeat assessment of India's growth outlook from the International Monetary Fund, coupled with a warning on the need to anchor inflation expectations, is likely to lend weight to market expectations for near-term monetary tightening by the country's central bank.

The IMF in its latest Article IV consultation paper issued Wednesday said India's economy is recovering well, with conditions now in place for a gradual tightening of monetary policy. It also indicated there is room for the rupee to rise without compromising a recovery.

"India's economy is rebounding strongly ahead of most countries in the world, bringing policy trade-offs to a head earlier than in other countries," the IMF said.

The comments highlight the dilemma for policy makers in India as they confront an economy picking up steam with inflation pressures starting to build, at a time the country's fiscal position remains weak.

Economists increasingly expect the Reserve Bank of India to become more aggressive in tightening policy, possibly raising interest rates at its next meeting in April. At its most recent meeting at the end of January, the RBI left lending and borrowing rates on hold but increased the cash reserve requirement for banks by 0.75 percentage point.

The process of tightening macro-economic policy settings should start with monetary policy, the IMF said.

"Moving early would also mitigate the risk of inflation expectations becoming unmoored, and thus would require a smaller overall adjustment. Initial steps could be to sequester most of the excess liquidity through increases in the cash reserve ratio," it added.

The IMF forecasts India's economic growth to accelerate to 8.0% in 2010-11 from 6.75% in 2009-10. That compares with the government's forecast for growth in 2010-11 of 8.5%.

"With India's long-term prospects remaining strong and private sector balance sheets sound, we expect growth to be back at potential in 2010-11 even if advanced economies grow below trend," the agency said.

Allowing the rupee to gain would not necessarily result in reduced competitiveness, it added. The rupee is up 1.9% against the U.S. dollar since the start of the year, and some analysts believe the central bank may step up intervention to slow the rise and protect exporters, in line with similar moves elsewhere in Asia.

"Given low interest rates in advanced economies and India's high relative growth, capital inflows are likely to be substantial. With the rupee still below its 2008 peak, there would be room for appreciation without concerns about eroding competitiveness," it said.

Other policy options, especially prudential measures, may be appropriate if asset price bubbles are a threat, it added. However, straightforward capital controls should be used "only as a last resort," given India's dependence on foreign inflows to sustain investment.

The IMF also said it was concerned about rising inflation in the food sector. That comes after inflation in February sped up to just shy of a double-digit rate. The benchmark wholesale price index-based inflation rate rose to 9.89% on year, its fastest pace in 16 months, from a provisional 8.56% in January, putting inflation well above a 8.50% rate that the RBI has forecast by the end of March.

The IMF did sound a warning note about the country's fiscal health, calling for a reduction in India's 2010-11 budget deficit.

"With the recovery becoming entrenched and India's high debt, the risk of premature withdrawal of fiscal stimulus is low. Introducing reforms to underpin lasting consolidation will be of paramount importance," it said.

IMF Upbeat on India Growth - WSJ.com
 
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So you are proud of the fact that India receives lot of foreign aid, gives a little bit of it to others, while half of its children are starving?

Haq's Musings: Malnutrition Challenge in India, Pakistan


hahaha :rofl: if we take aid, you say we take too much, if we give back to other countries, you say feed your people.

What do you mean give a little bit? Is your math that poor? or are you jealous you cant counter these figures with Pakistani Data?
We have to listen to all this and then the comparison pieces with Pakistan in terms of poverty, malnutrition, etc, like it is the country that is a shining star and a country to emulate. Please stop making fun of yourself. You said we take the most aid, I said we also give back..if you don't agree don't digress
 
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India to be fastest growing economy by 2018: Economist
March 16th, 2010

India is the second largest growing economy after China, but it will overtake its neighbouring country by 2018, the Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU), the research arm of London-based Economist magazine, said Tuesday.
“We forecast that India will overtake China as the fastest growing major economy by 2018. We expect India’s growth on an average of eight percent in the next five years,” EIU senior analyst Anjalika Bardalai told reporters on the sidelines of 14th Business Roundtable here.

She said the Indian economy would grow at 6.8 percent during the current fiscal, at 7.7 percent in 2010-11, and 8 percent the year later.

But the statistical arm of the Indian government, the Central Statistical Organisation, has projected the economy to grow by 7.2 percent in the current fiscal.

“Our growth projection is based on expenditures in the economy and is not based on factor cost as done by the Indian government,” Bardalai explained.

The Indian government measures growth on the basis of factor cost. Factor cost is the cost of factors of production used to produce final goods and services.

India’s GDP during the three quarters in the current fiscal grew at 6.1 percent, 7.9 percent and 6 percent. While during 2008-09 it grew at 6.7 percent and in 2007-08 at 9.1 percent.

“The GDP will not return back to 9 percent and more as it was during 2005-08. Also the monetary pressure may not go down as expected,” The Economist executive editor Daniel Franklin said.

Driven by increasing food prices, India’s annual rate of inflation, based on the wholesale price index, rose to 9.89 percent in February from 8.56 percent in the previous month, according to an official data revealed Monday.

It also predicted inflow of investments through Foreign Institutional Investors (FII) at $75 billion by 2014.
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India to be fastest growing economy by 2018: Economist
 
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India to be a major economy by 2018:EIU

This growth projection is based on expenditures in the economy and not on factor cost, Economist Intelligence Unit said


New Delhi: India is the second largest growing economy after China, but it will overtake its neighbouring country by 2018, the Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU), the research arm of London-based Economist magazine, said on Tuesday.

"We forecast that India will overtake China as the fastest growing major economy by 2018. We expect India's growth on an average of eight per cent in the next five years," EIU senior analyst Anjalika Bardalai told reporters on the sidelines of 14th Business Roundtable here.

She said the Indian economy would grow at 6.8 per cent during the current fiscal, at 7.7 per cent in 2010-11, and 8 per cent the year later, reports IANS.

But the statistical arm of the Indian government, the Central Statistical Organisation, has projected the economy to grow by 7.2 per cent in the current fiscal.

"Our growth projection is based on expenditures in the economy and is not based on factor cost as done by the Indian government," Bardalai explained.

The Indian government measures growth on the basis of factor cost. Factor cost is the cost of factors of production used to produce final goods and services.

India's GDP during the three quarters in the current fiscal grew at 6.1 per cent, 7.9 per cent and 6 per cent. While during 2008-09 it grew at 6.7 per cent and in 2007-08 at 9.1 per cent.

"The GDP will not return back to 9 per cent and more as it was during 2005-08. Also the monetary pressure may not go down as expected," The Economist Executive Editor Daniel Franklin said.
http://www.igovernment.in/site/india-be-major-economy-2018eiu-37143
 
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