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India threatens to review its defence relations with Russia

Ok i will be more descriptive now...

The US is trying hard to get into Indian Market not just because defence equipment sales means a lot to them but because this will also in future effect the Russian indian cooperation in Geopolitical Issues, Consider India inclined towards west for Developement in fields of Technology and then see that Russia is getting Isolated in the World...


First of all Asif, I have seriously advising you to not to perceive the things of foreign affairs negatively. It's all about how do you play the tricks in diplomatic ties with important power more preciously.

In my opinion, you have pretty delayed in realising that US is trying hard to get inside the Indian Market, in contrast Us has already established themselves firmly in Indian coporate world.

If you leave aside the matters of defence procurement, India has already inclined towards western countries to fulfill its quench of technological as well as industrial field from last many years. But India doesn't get carried away by past negative sentement in association with west but it applies its intellect to make west think twise before making any attempt to carry negative approach towards India.
 
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First of all Asif, I have seriously advising you to not to perceive the things of foreign affairs negatively. It's all about how do you play the tricks in diplomatic ties with important power more preciously.

In my opinion, you have pretty delayed in realising that US is trying hard to get inside the Indian Market, in contrast Us has already established themselves firmly in Indian coporate world.

If you leave aside the matters of defence procurement, India has already inclined towards western countries to fulfill its quench of technological as well as industrial field from last many years. But India doesn't get carried away by past negative sentement in association with west but it applies its intellect to make west think twise before making any attempt to carry negative approach towards India.


Dude this is only what you think India is doing but you know quite well that foreign diplomacies are more indeepth then you and i can Imagine..
 
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So its beging between Russians and Indians may on the carrier issue this is sure that indians wants to in US camp and Russians must have to switch complete towards Chinees , Arabs and Possiable Pakistan ... The HOT Old Long Relations are getting COLD in Mosscow
 
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So its beging between Russians and Indians may on the carrier issue this is sure that indians wants to in US camp and Russians must have to switch complete towards Chinees , Arabs and Possiable Pakistan ... The HOT Old Long Relations are getting COLD in Mosscow

And we have a dreamer here dream on kid pakistani army and politicians dont breath without uncles permission.:bunny:
Most arabs are destroying there economies cause they wont unpeg there money from us dollar but i can see them moving towards russia.
 
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Dude this is only what you think India is doing but you know quite well that foreign diplomacies are more indeepth then you and i can Imagine..



Oh my goodness, can you explain me what kind of foreign diplomacy that we can't imagine?

I have to admit that, Indian have find sometimes difficult to deal with russians. And Indians can not forget that on several occasions, Russia has been a dependable friend too. But that is how bilateral relationships, even among the best friends works. There is friction off and on which eventually gets sorted out.
 
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Their can be no positive effect of Indian Attitude in this case.......

Wait and see

Off course, the current russian demand is undoubtedly on the high side and India will have to remind russian of its contractual obligations. This will call for some keen diplomacy. But our cause will not helped by indiscreet remarks by high-ranking officials-Admiral Mehta must be told that in no uncertain terms.
 
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So its beging between Russians and Indians may on the carrier issue this is sure that indians wants to in US camp and Russians must have to switch complete towards Chinees , Arabs and Possiable Pakistan ... The HOT Old Long Relations are getting COLD in Mosscow

Quite Spontenous Nature of statement.
 
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I think, sir you should be much more descriptive to justify your point and do enlighten us regarding choices.
Perhaps below article may help you convince:
India-Russia relationship hits a rough patch
Ajai Shukla / New Delhi December 14, 2007
India-Russia relationship hits a rough patch
Cracks in the India-Russia relationship are becoming increasingly difficult to paper over.

In October, India faced a snub when External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee, on a visit to Russia, could not secure a meeting with his Russian counterpart.

On December 3, India’s navy chief, Admiral Sureesh Mehta, publicly questioned Russia’s new priorities, suggesting frankly that new oil wealth could be generating a world-view in Moscow that was different from when New Delhi largely funded Russia’s defence R&D.

It remains unclear whether the admiral had the government’s okay to pronounce on foreign policy, but he only stated a fact. After the Soviet meltdown, Russia’s military spending plummeted to one-thirtieth of what it was in 1989, when 2.03% of the Soviet Union’s GDP was being spent on R&D.

Russian analysts estimate that by 2000, India may have been funding 50% of all Russia’s military R&D. This was done by ordering a range of weaponry — T-90 tanks, Talwar-class warships, Sukhoi-30 fighters, MiG-21 upgrades, and a range of missiles — and letting Russia develop those products using Indian money.

Things, however, have changed dramatically. From 2007-2012, a resurrected Russian State Armaments Programme will spend US $50 million on military R&D.

As Russia’s military places long-postponed orders for weaponry, that country’s scaled-down defence facilities are unable to fulfil foreign contracts. Senior Indian diplomats point out that Russia’s military modernisation programme meant that the Gorshkov over-runs were inevitable.

The problem is not just India’s. China, too, must deal with a commercially resurgent Russia. Beijing had signed, in 2005, a $1-billion order for 34 giant IL-78 transport planes and 4 IL-78 refuelling aircraft. Now Russia has realised that it cannot meet its own as well as Beijing’s requirements. That contract is being renegotiated at a higher price.

India, says a senior official with extensive experience in the Ministry of Defence (MoD), has no choice but to deal with the new Russia.

Declaring that the navy chief should not have criticised Russia, the official observes that, “The services may feel frustrated by occasional irritants in an extensive defence relationship. But when the navy needs help in designing a nuclear submarine, or wants to lease one to train crewmen, which country other than Russia is willing to help?”

The changing military relationship also reflects larger geo-strategic changes. A top diplomatic source points out, “The Soviet-India relationship can never be recreated, since that rested on a shared threat from China. Today, Russia has a benign relationship with China; in fact, China buys more Russian arms than any other country in the world.”

And even that is changing. In 2006 and 2007, a host of small countries that buy big have supplanted China. Algeria was Moscow’s biggest customer last year, signing a $7.5 billion order for a basket of weaponry. Venezuela spent $3 billion on Russian arms, while Malaysia, Indonesia and Vietnam each bought up a billion dollars worth of Russian arms.

Despite that, there are important Indian interests, says the senior diplomat, which can never be achieved without Russian cooperation.

He points out: “India wants to expand its footprint in the energy-rich Central Asian region. It cannot do so without Russian blessings. If India is a player in the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation, it is thanks to Russia’s help. India’s long-term energy interests are closely linked with Russia.”

New Delhi’s struggle to generate warmth in an old marriage is not made easier by a new suitor, Washington.

Despite those blandishments, key decision-makers in South Block still believe that the India-Russia relationship must be defined by political common ground — e.g. Russian backing for India as a permanent member of the UN Security Council, and its support in the Nuclear Suppliers’ Group — rather than on disagreements in an arms supply relationship that must eventually be anchored on commercial logic, not political patronage.
 
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Things, however, have changed dramatically. From 2007-2012, a resurrected Russian State Armaments Programme will spend US $50 million on military R&D.

This can't be right...it must be $50 billion.
 
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