India threatening to impose limited war: Pakistan

[Tom M]

We have seen your reaction in 71 but totally quite when there is rohingiya muslims are being butchered this hypocrisy can't prolong.
Pakistan won't lose alot when india have everything to lose American won't let it happen till they sure Pakistan is weak enough but even American will never give india a chance cuz China will become somthing that even US won't be able to handle so it's time to become good boy and listen.

We are sorry for what is happening with Rohingya's, but they are not a refugee problem for us unlike the Bengali's (irrespective of religion) from East Pakistan of 1971. It is primarily Bangladesh's problem and if the refugee crisis get's out of hand it's the responsibility of Bangladesh to do a humanitarian intervention, they even have a classic example of 1971 before them.

Apart from this I'm not interested with yet another set of If's, but's, will etc.

 

[ashok321]

Army changes tack, puts tanks at Akhnoor

http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/army-changes-tack-puts-tanks-at-akhnoor/472976.html

India has reorganised an Army division to hold tanks and armoured vehicles in its arsenal and located it to tackle threats from across the Line of Control (LoC) in the lower parts of Jammu and Kashmir. The division is tasked with countering the threat in the Chammb-Jaurian sector, west of Akhnoor.

The area is of immense strategic importance. During the 1965 and 1971 wars, Pakistan had tried to run its armoured columns through these fertile plains located smack on the LoC in an attempt to cut off India’s access to Kashmir, resulting in pitched tank battles.

The existing 10th Infantry Division of the Indian Army based at Akhnoor has now been converted into “Rapids” or Reorganised Army Plains Infantry Divisions. It will hold two regiments of tanks (around 100) and another two regiments of mechanised armoured vehicles (100). The Army uses the Russian-built BMP as armoured vehicles.

This will be the first of the series under Army’s Northern Command. The first ones came up at locations under the Western Command in the late 1980s. Former Army Chief General K Sundarji (retd) is credited with the creation of “Rapids”.

Each of “Rapids” also consists of two infantry brigades, artillery elements, a reconnaissance and support battalion, an engineer regiment, a signals regiment and latest surveillance with target acquisition equipment.

On September 1, 1965, the Pakistan army had launched “Operation Grand Slam” to take control of the Akhnoor bridge in a bid to cut off the Nowshera-Rajouri-Poonch area from Jammu. In 1971, the tactic was repeated.

Major re-jig of forces: Tanks, mechanised infantry to counter Pakistan in Jammu

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...stan-indian-army-chammb-jurian/1/1055971.html

The crucial Chammb and Jaurian sector in south-west Jammu and Kashmir which proved to be India's vulnerability during the 1965 and 1971 war with Pakistan has new defenders- tanks and mechanised infantry.
Top sources in the Government termed the addition of tanks and mechanised infantry in Chammb and Jurian as "major development."

Tops Indian Army sources told India Today that the Akhnoor-based Division of the Indian Army tasked to protect the Chammb-Jaurian sector has been "rapidised."

"Rapidised" or "Rapid" units stands for 'Reorganised Army Plains Infantry Divisions'. In layman's language it means addition of armoured and mechanised infantry units.

Sources said that the Akhnoor based formation has been given two additional T-72 tank regiments and two mechanised infantry regiments.

According to sources there are at least 100 odd tanks and equal number of armoured personnel carriers have been added on to the division. The concept was developed in the 1980s by the former Chief General K Sunderji.
"Adding tanks and mechanised infantry increases the flexibility of the army. It allows army to go an offensive and respond to threats faster. Troops can be moved and deployed faster to thwart a thrust by Pakistan," sources aware of the developments told India Today.


During the 1965 Indo-Pak war and the 1971 Indo-Pak war, Pakistan tried to push its armoured columns through these fertile plains to cut-off India's access to Kashmir valley. Pitched tank battles have occurred in these plains in these two wars.

The Akhnoor division is tasked to tackle the threats at the Chammb-Jauriyan sector. Addition of the tanks and armoured personnel carriers underlines New Delhi's determination to prevent any more surprises in this area from across the Line of Control.

The Akhnoor formation will retain its infantry elements. Typically all "rapid" units contain within them a engineering unit, a reconnaissance unit and a signals unit that is equipped with the latest surveillance and target acquisition units.

 

[Hellraiser007]

Why are Pakistani running around Isn't this what those arm chair warriors of PDF wanted?

Come they have given a issue don't shy away.....

Come and take Kashmir or let them and they will take !

A war is required for giving reason for all military spendings. We spent too much now we must reap the results. Or it will be another wasted opportunity. A limited war like Kargil is must.

Jihadis trying to teach human rights !

 

[STRANGER BIRD]

now you are starting to sound senile.
if you want to know what happened in dokhlam watch this

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

We are sorry for what is happening with Rohingya's, but they are not a refugee problem for us unlike the Bengali's (irrespective of religion) from East Pakistan of 1971. It is primarily Bangladesh's problem and if the refugee crisis get's out of hand it's the responsibility of Bangladesh to do a humanitarian intervention, they even have a classic example of 1971 before them.

Apart from this I'm not interested with yet another set of If's, but's, will etc.

Atleast you know how india intervene in their neighbours matters when ever its convenience for them india have border with Myanmar so enter your army like in 71 and help like you always portray your pics.

 

[Tom M]

Atleast you know how india intervene in their neighbours matters when ever its convenience for them india have border with Myanmar so enter your army like in 71 and help like you always portray your pics.

71, huh ??? It was just a page from the book that Pakistan had used. You taught us how to intervene in the domestic matters of your neighbors in the pretext of popular uprising and then infiltrate your regular and militias with convenience. We just replicated what you tried in 47-48, but effectively. And if you thing what India did in 1971 is wrong then what Pakistan did in 1947 w.r.t Kashmir is also completely wrong.

India may be having border with Myanmar, but we are not under any pressure of a mass exodus unlike the one that we faced in 1971. So the question is why should we ??? It is Bangladesh how is in that situation, so it's better for government of Bangladesh to sit, think and decide. Maybe India may provide political, diplomatic or even logistical support for such move.

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

71, huh ??? It was just a page from the book that Pakistan had used. You taught us how to intervene in the domestic matters of your neighbors in the pretext of popular uprising and then infiltrate your regular and militias with convenience. We just replicated what you tried in 47-48, but effectively. And if you thing what India did in 1971 is wrong then what Pakistan did in 1947 w.r.t Kashmir is also completely wrong.

India may be having border with Myanmar, but we are not under any pressure of a mass exodus unlike the one that we faced in 1971. So the question is why should we ??? It is Bangladesh how is in that situation, so it's better for government of Bangladesh to sit, think and decide. Maybe India may provide political, diplomatic or even logistical support for such move.

As I said what ever is convenient to you made your own history and made us ur teacher which made us terrible teacher cuz our student is horrible. Story of 71 didn't finish yet rohingiya is another angel to this story sooner or later you will gonna pay the price chicken neck is getting slimmer and stand off then back off lol.
Told you student is coward and will remain coward.

 

[abrar khan]

What is wrong with Modi?
This is not the way to seal BJP (2019) victory.

First he wanted to show his fangs to China, now its Pakistan.
The man is running amok and going haywire.

This man is out to destroy India.

Above (underlined) is a serious matter.

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[Tom M]

As I said what ever is convenient to you made your own history and made us ur teacher which made us terrible teacher cuz our student is horrible. Story of 71 didn't finish yet rohingiya is another angel to this story sooner or later you will gonna pay the price chicken neck is getting slimmer and stand off then back off lol.
Told you student is coward and will remain coward.

Oh yeah, have you ever seen a Teacher become successful than most of his students in life ??? In most cases, once a teacher always a teacher till retirement. Students move on and become far too successful than their teachers in life.

For example, our teacher started with one single objective back in 1947, they are still stuck in the same objective and soon will retire. Look the student has always outperformed his teacher ??? LOL

 

[Sam Vaish]

Oh yeah, have you ever seen a Teacher become successful than most of his students in life ??? In most cases, once a teacher always a teacher till retirement. Students move on and become far too successful than their teachers in life.

For example, our teacher started with one single objective back in 1947, they are still stuck in objective and soon will retire. Look the student has always outperformed his teacher ??? LOL

Thanks Bro, very good example. But question is their mind ready to absorb? They aren't wise enough. Lying and insulting others and their religion Make them feel victorious.

 

[sohail.ishaque]

Why are Pakistani running around Isn't this what those arm chair warriors of PDF wanted?

Come they have given a issue don't shy away.....

Come and take Kashmir or let them and they will take !

A war is required for giving reason for all military spendings. We spent too much now we must reap the results. Or it will be another wasted opportunity. A limited war like Kargil is must.

i like the idea btw.. but why limited ?? lets make it a big one.. it'll b fun.... and there is too much population in this world, lets give them(other nations) a favor by eliminating 2 very populous countries from this planet..

 

[Major Sam]

Thanks Bro, very good example. But question is their mind ready to absorb? They aren't wise enough. Lying and insulting others and their religion Make them feel victorious.

u mean people Sutma Siraaj

 

[Nalini]

Dude Pakistan is a peace loving country.

You can officially announce that wishful war first before asking me my response.

As far as LoC is concerned. We have invited you to the table countless times.

A war will result in

1) mutual destruction
2) or a limited humiliation leading to a humanitarian crisis in India as planned by us.


Take your pick if you want my personal opinion.

Go back to History.

If you were a peaceful country, you would not have sent in Terrorists to annex Kashmir as soon as you got independence. Same aggression you showed with KPK & Balochis.

Starting all the wars explains your peace. When you lost in war, you infiltrated Terrorists in our country. You continuously violated cease fire agreements, abducted & mutilated our soldiers, targeted civilians in the pretext of your Nuclear retaliation. You understood, you cannot win a war with India, so focused on infiltration, proxies & all other means to bleed India till it collapses.

India kept on appealing at every forum about Cease fire violations, deaths of innocents & the terror exported from Pakistan to De-stabilise our country. The world were mum at our sufferings till Sept 11 2001

Being defensive people & believers of Ahimsa, We never could think of same strategies, so helplessly kept taking this devastation. After Kargil & parliament attacks, the people's Non-Violence & defensive thoughts were questioned. We are Nonviolent people, but the people across have no respect to our tolerance. Pakistan took it as weakness telling its people, Indians are cowards & kept making merry by pushing these atrocities. Our tolerance really got tested when you started using our own people & trying to build hatred from with in through Bhabar Khalsa, Hizbul Mujahideen, Indian Mujahideen, Jaish e Mohammad, Deendar Anjuman, Harkat-ul-Mujahideen, Harkat ul-Ansar, etc.

Our approach had changed, but Nuclear war was another concern & fear which prevented to go offensive in-spite of our will to retaliate & crush Pakistan. We lacked a leadership & security planning commission, who had the power to instill confidence in the public who feared a Nuclear disaster.

We started to build our relations with Afghanistan, Iran & slowly started to analyze the civil disorders with in Pakistan. The Security Establishment started using the vulnerabilities when required & assured our support to Afghanistan & Iran. Still the grit to really go on the full offensive lacked. Then Mumbai happened & people just had had enough of congress & a weak leader like Manmohan who could not even bring LET & Hafiz Saeed to Justice. We needed a strong leadership & security think tank to change the internal hostility building & the Pakistan's never ending audacity. It was high time to change our mindset from Defense to Offense. For that we needed to take in to confidence the international powers, which has happened.

Today what you see in Pakistan is the multi fold dose of the same medicine which Pakistan used to give us. We were able to grow in-spite of all your barbarism. Now it's your turn to see how you handle it.

India is pushing Pakistan to do a blunder especially nuclear movements. American, French, British, Israel & all the Western eyes are wide open to see any Nuclear build up or movements with in, to raid Pakistan & dismantle the Nuclear weapons. If there is a strike, Yes India may suffer some causality if our Defense system are unable to intercept these attacks. But the retaliation which will follow will finish Pakistan. Economically sinking exports, remittances & increasing debts will make sure, Pakistan has no courage to go for war. The border engagements will shift from one border to other between Iran, Afghanistan & India, then chaos with in. Balochistan & Sindh voices will only increase in coming days. Kashmir will become unbearable to defend in another 2-3 years, eventually leading you to surrender in front of India. If you don't understand the gravity of where this is heading to re-consider & make a big change in your approach, Pakistan will disintegrate before 2023.

Don't worry, I will be here as this Bollywood fantasy will become reality. You can already see, some of the things I have been saying has started to take course. This is reality, not my hate speech. Go analyse it & you will start seeing it. Only peace with India can save you. Your worst nightmare would be China abandoning you, which is a possibility

 

[El Sidd]

Go back to History.

If you were a peaceful country, you would not have sent in Terrorists to annex Kashmir as soon as you got independence. Same aggression you showed with KPK & Balochis.

Starting all the wars explains your peace. When you lost in war, you infiltrated Terrorists in our country. You continuously violated cease fire agreements, abducted & mutilated our soldiers, targeted civilians in the pretext of your Nuclear retaliation. You understood, you cannot win a war with India, so focused on infiltration, proxies & all other means to bleed India till it collapses.

India kept on appealing at every forum about Cease fire violations, deaths of innocents & the terror exported from Pakistan to De-stabilise our country. The world were mum at our sufferings till Sept 11 2001

Being defensive people & believers of Ahimsa, We never could think of same strategies, so helplessly kept taking this devastation. After Kargil & parliament attacks, the people's Non-Violence & defensive thoughts were questioned. We are Nonviolent people, but the people across have no respect to our tolerance. Pakistan took it as weakness telling its people, Indians are cowards & kept making merry by pushing these atrocities. Our tolerance really got tested when you started using our own people & trying to build hatred from with in through Bhabar Khalsa, Hizbul Mujahideen, Indian Mujahideen, Jaish e Mohammad, Deendar Anjuman, Harkat-ul-Mujahideen, Harkat ul-Ansar, etc.

Our approach had changed, but Nuclear war was another concern & fear which prevented to go offensive in-spite of our will to retaliate & crush Pakistan. We lacked a leadership & security planning commission, who had the power to instill confidence in the public who feared a Nuclear disaster.

We started to build our relations with Afghanistan, Iran & slowly started to analyze the civil disorders with in Pakistan. The Security Establishment started using the vulnerabilities when required & assured our support to Afghanistan & Iran. Still the grit to really go on the full offensive lacked. Then Mumbai happened & people just had had enough of congress & a weak leader like Manmohan who could not even bring LET & Hafiz Saeed to Justice. We needed a strong leadership & security think tank to change the internal hostility building & the Pakistan's never ending audacity. It was high time to change our mindset from Defense to Offense. For that we needed to take in to confidence the international powers, which has happened.

Today what you see in Pakistan is the multi fold dose of the same medicine which Pakistan used to give us. We were able to grow in-spite of all your barbarism. Now it's your turn to see how you handle it.

India is pushing Pakistan to do a blunder especially nuclear movements. American, French, British, Israel & all the Western eyes are wide open to see any Nuclear build up or movements with in, to raid Pakistan & dismantle the Nuclear weapons. If there is a strike, Yes India may suffer some causality if our Defense system are unable to intercept these attacks. But the retaliation which will follow will finish Pakistan. Economically sinking exports, remittances & increasing debts will make sure, Pakistan has no courage to go for war. The border engagements will shift from one border to other between Iran, Afghanistan & India, then chaos with in. Balochistan & Sindh voices will only increase in coming days. Kashmir will become unbearable to defend in another 2-3 years, eventually leading you to surrender in front of India. If you don't understand the gravity of where this is heading to re-consider & make a big change in your approach, Pakistan will disintegrate before 2023.

Don't worry, I will be here as this Bollywood fantasy will become reality. You can already see, some of the things I have been saying has started to take course. This is reality, not my hate speech. Go analyse it & you will start seeing it. Only peace with India can save you.

man doomsday preachers like you are dozen a dime in this region.

As far as your great friendship is considered with Iran and Afghanistan. well LoL. these can hardly survive one simple statement from Pakistan.

but i like how you keep your busy looking at whats happening in Pakistan and totally ignore your own plight.

 

[Nalini]

man doomsday preachers like you are dozen a dime in this region.

Sorry I am not a preacher who sells fantasies like Ghazwa e Hind. I am a economic & security Analyst. I do analysis on Geo-political developments based on facts.

As far as your great friendship is considered with Iran and Afghanistan. well LoL. these can hardly survive one simple statement from Pakistan.

Regarding Afghanistan, we are going to arm them & also share our intelligence & satellite images. The dispirited Afghan security forces is nowhere at par with Taliban, but they are going to get missiles, helicopters & an highly equipped air-force & intelligence support, which will give a big advantage over the Taliban. There will be less casualties & loss of lives in future. This will add huge confidence in not only fighting the war on terror, but also put an end to their inability to counter Pakistan's threats & blackmail.

Regarding Iran, Chabahar Port will increase trade, bringing in lot of Foreign exchange to its country. It will also act as a route to quickly re-supply weapons if it goes to war with Pakistan or anybody. Once this port gets fully operational, India will add atleast 2 billion $ worth to its forex kitty only from Afghanistan, biting into not only Chinese exports, but also breaking the 4th Biggest export market of Pakistan. This will further weaken your country economically.

but i like how you keep your busy looking at whats happening in Pakistan and totally ignore your own plight.

The biggest plight for India right now is Pakistan above all of our plights, who has been a road block & obstacle to our growth & security. All other plights becomes easier to address & can be conquered gradually, once there is peace & an atmosphere to focus on development.