India -Taliban in Afghanistan is not much matter as compared to 1990s

[Vapnope]

Who was Osama bin laden?

Option 1. A Mujahidin fought a war after getting arms training in Pakistan with financial support from the US & Saudi. And, he supported funneling arms, money, and fighters from the Arab world into Afghanistan.

Option 2. A terrorist after 9-11, as per the US and Pakistan establishment.

?????

The simple answer is that Osama bin Laden considered a mujahid when he was fighting the soviets and he became a terrorist when his people started killing Pakistanis.

Just like Faqir of Ipi was a freedom fighter when he faught against British and was a terrorist when he started killing Pakistani people.

Same goes for the capt khurram Ashiq of Zarrar ATU when he switched his loyalty and joined Al Qaida.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

@Raj-Hindustani
Let me ask you some questions.

What are taliban to India if they come to power by any means?
1- Terrorists
2 - Legitimate Afghan govt

Also,
Historically India has sided with anti Afghan factions in Afghanistan and continued to do so hoeever Indian side is ready to talk to Taliban for obvious reasons. The thing is that taliban are going to put forward their demands for cooperation and the most obvious would be to drop funding to NDS and all anti Taliban factions. They can also ask for money as a compensation for earlier Indian role. What is India going to do now?

It does not mean that we were/are supporting another part of the government than India was supporting to Anti- Afghani factions. It could you are supporting to Anti-Afghani factions because you want Afghanistan as a backyard.

I will prefer to have a communication door open with Taiban since Afghani people are our friends.

HOW? you are trying to sell me that Taliban take over will have no effect on India.

Yes, there will be an impact but I am saying, not much as compared to 1990s.

 

[Vapnope]

It does not mean that we were/are supporting another part of the government than India was supporting to Anti- Afghani factions. It could you are supporting to Anti-Afghani factions because you want Afghanistan as a backyard.

I will prefer to have a communication door open with Taiban since Afghani people are our friends.

You didn't answer my question. What are you going to do to protect your interests? Pay the Taliban or stop the funding to "Afghans".

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

The simple answer is that Osama bin Laden considered a mujahid when he was fighting the soviets and he became a terrorist when his people started killing Pakistanis.

Just like Faqir of Ipi was a freedom fighter when he faught against British and was a terrorist when he started killing Pakistani people.

Same goes for the capt khurram Ashiq of Zarrar ATU when he switched his loyalty and joined Al Qaida.

I agreed at least you given an honest answer.

But, if you ask me then 1st place, Pakistan should not have jumped into major players' games in the region during the cold war.

What happened if Pakistan not joined WAR in 1979 and could have natural. I am 200% sure that Pakistan's economical situation and security situation in Pakistan was much better than now.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

You didn't answer my question. What are you going to do to protect your interests? Pay the Taliban or stop the funding to "Afghans".

It has to continue support to Afghani people and if need then, should have a proper communication network with the Taliban but very limited.

India has very little to lose but Pakistan has to decide, they want to repeat the same old mistakes or learned from the mistakes.

 

[Mig hunter]

First if Talibs don't matter, then y som much coverage in Indians main stream press
2nd Talibs are totally different from 90s, now they know how diplomacy works. Reference look into their recent statements and visits.
3rdly, they are not going to forget that much easily that when they were being slaughtered, on both occasions India was with the butchers.
4th what makes you think that while every time u jump into their territory to kill them or side with their killers, having no maral grounds and they will not reciprocate.
SO if u wanna live in lala land keep on living. And don't think it would be because of Pakistan. India owe alot to taliban and they will pay back with full interest. Period

 

[Ghost Hobbit]

this whole piece is full of the the keyword 'little chance'. India is running on chance ..
India is opening up its 1.4 billlllllliion people market to talban... congratulations world

why would India run on 'chance'? We know everything. So we plan for everything.

If this was 2008, india is like Goldman Sachs and Pak is like Lehman.

1) Pakistan did not support the Taliban in the cold War against the Soviets and Afgan govt. That's because there was no taliban. It was the mujahideen.

2) Support for the taliban in the 90s had nothing to do with the support you gave to the TTP and BLA/BLF. Our war on terror was not against the Afghan Taliban.

3) India and its relationship with the Taliban? Weren't you the guys that were saying they are terrorists and you were gonna deploy troops in afghan against the taliban? Also I don't think they would want to be an ally of you. Not especially after what you did in Kashmir and Gujrat.

All these are things YOU (ie Pak posters) said, when did India take an openly hostile stand against Taliban?

You didn't answer my question. What are you going to do to protect your interests? Pay the Taliban or stop the funding to "Afghans".

The chinese have bouught them off with cash, so why not?

 

[Rollno21]

HOW? you are trying to sell me that Taliban take over will have no effect on India.

Even if Taliban is hostile to us and take over Afghanistan how will it impact India in anyway other than India having less influence in Afghanistan.

 

[Aburayyan]

We have a very rich foreign policy if you ask.

We can maintain a good and relationship close with Palestine and at the same time with Israel.

Even if you remember - Palestinian Authority had decided to recall its Ambassador to Pakistan, Walid Abu Ali, for sharing the stage with LeT chief Hafiz Saeed.

And, relationship with Israel is no secret...



Pakistanis still believe that Afghanistan will be their backyard once the Taliban will come in power.

BUt they don't know, the situation is totally changed since 1990s.

Hehe, like talibans really gives a f word abt your rich foreign policy they never bow down to usa and its collition and dont compare them with with palestinian authority its a nationalist govt while taliban is all abt islam, shariah and jihad.

And what i see amd believe after defeating the only so called superpower they will be back with taliban++ mode on.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Because its irrelevant to what you are trying to sell here, I.e. "India -Taliban do not matter as they did back in 90s".

There is this silly narrative going about in India that Pakistan will give a safe passage to Taliban so they can now fight India inside Indian territory. So I asked you, point me an instance back in 90s when Taliban conducted as operation in Delhi or Bombay?

Taliban effect is indirect. One which I already have mentioned, which is Pakistani western flank becoming safe and secure, and shrinking of Indian geopolitical reach in this region. And this effect will be same as it was in 90s. India is now back at 90s level, intact might be worse now since China has already been invited by Taliban into Afghanistan.

Yaar, there is a history, Man. Just read it .... ohhh wait, you will say that it is fake.

https://www.sipri.org/sites/default/files/files/PP/SIPRIPP11.pdf

 

[SecularNationalist]

Har har taliban

 

[Khan vilatey]

Taliban themselves have said they have no issues with India. Only the pakistanis are jumping up and down.


what conflicting narratives. Long before the Talibs took over we struck a deal with them. Whatever situation in afghanistan India will remain secure over there.

no the Taliban have no issues with India as long as it is ruled by Pakistani Muslims!!!! The only true and guaranteed way fo the happiness of Indian people is to accept the rule of Pakistani muslims

We have a very rich foreign policy if you ask.

We can maintain a good and relationship close with Palestine and at the same time with Israel.

Even if you remember - Palestinian Authority had decided to recall its Ambassador to Pakistan, Walid Abu Ali, for sharing the stage with LeT chief Hafiz Saeed.

And, relationship with Israel is no secret...



Pakistanis still believe that Afghanistan will be their backyard once the Taliban will come in power.

BUt they don't know, the situation is totally changed since 1990s.

Yes , Pakistan will not intervene in Afghanistan any more , they gave refugee to the Big T over the last 20 years as per india , they facilitated all the peace talks between the Americans and the Big T , and of course Pakistan has no intention to rule over Afghanistan with its proxy, the following news is false the Indians are not running away from Afghanistan

Indians running away from their terrorist camps

once paksitan secured its western border we can re deploy our forces to the eastern border imagine what will happen then with the Chinese also keeping the Indians busy (inshallah )…. I think they call this “a storm in a tea cup”

I can best describe this situation from what is written in our holy books

“And (recall) when the disbelievers were conspiring against you to hold you as a captive, or to kill you, or to expel you. They were planning, and Allah was planning, and Allah is the best planner.”

k

 

[Rollno21]

You didn't answer my question. What are you going to do to protect your interests? Pay the Taliban or stop the funding to "Afghans".

Our interest was having good relations with Afghanistan,that's why we invested in roads ,schools and dams . If who ever is in control of Afghanistan doesn't want it we have nothing to lose.

Har har taliban

And in Pakistan ghar ghar may talibani

 

[Ghost Hobbit]

Hehe, like talibans really gives a f word abt your rich foreign policy they never bow down to usa and its collition and dont compare them with with palestinian authority its a nationalist govt while taliban is all abt islam, shariah and jihad.

And what i see amd believe after defeating the only so called superpower they will be back with taliban++ mode on.

You talk big. But can't even stop us from putting you in FATF and keeping you there for years. We've made you lose 48 billion over there itself.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Even before Taliban becomes a threat to India if ever, there are much more actions to happen. A proper civil war, few million afghans flocking into Pakistan along with possibly few with suicide belts, TTP getting support from their buddies in Afghanistan and much more.. lots of exciting time ahead

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We have gangus here advocating terrorism in Pakistan and the killing of Pakistani civilians. Is this acceptable?