India Successfully Tests ABM capacity

[Bull]

The Arrow's failed a test to hit a missile similar to the North Korean Nodong's, tested since the Shahab class is similar as well. Meaning they'd fail against a Ghauri too..

Which test are you referring to?

The Shaheen's can launch within minutes and can reach their destination in as little as 4-6 mins. America too can barely do it, with such an isolated location.

well if you can track it on time then the report says the missile will intrecept in 50sec,so few minutes is enough time.

 

[A.Rahman]

Even Americans with their ultra modern sensors could not achive capability of shooting a missile in outer atmosphere. But yet our genious Indians have done what no one could do. I wonder if there were two missiles that just failed and crashed.

 

[joey]

AR Rahman please stop with the jingiosm, I told wait till they releases specs.
there is more more than enough evidence that work has begun wayy back.
400 million dollar budget sanctioned.

Really dont underestimate indian capability with increasing R&D fundings....and more indians stayingf back/

look this in february.

Plans for missile interceptors unveiled

By Our Staff Reporter



BANGALORE Feb. 8. The country's top scientists, engineers, and policy makers put up a "team'' front on the fourth day of Aero India 2003, as they spoke about their plans. Saturday was also the last day of an international seminar on "Aerospace technologies: Developments and strategies''.

The seminar ended with a plenary session on Indian aviation, with the experts talking about going beyond LCA, missile defence, and markets for domestic or joint venture aerospace products.

T.S. Prahlad, former Director of the National Aerospace Laboratories, who conceived the Saras civilian multi-role aircraft, said the Indian Air Force was supporting a limited series production of six planes.

On the LCA project, he said the "most technology-intensive team effort'' had given the country solid grounding in several key technologies. Later, he told The Hindu that the indigenous Kaveri engine was "still the long-term option for the LCA'', on India's reported decision to buy more GE 404 engines to meet production deadlines.

Going beyond the LCA, Dr. Prasad said a medium-range combat aircraft (MCA) was being planned.

A talk by former Chief Advisor to the DRDO, K.G. Narayanan, reinforced the view that unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) would play an increasingly important role in the future. After `Lakshya', the pilotless target aircraft, which now has an export market, and `Nishant', a `sub-sonic' reconnaissance UAV, India will now develop a UAV that will "have a place on a ballistic missile launch warning platform''.

V.K. Saraswat, Director, RCI, DRDO, said missile defence would be given impetus: programmes included developing missile interceptors. Variants of the `Agni' I and II, and those of `Prithvi' were now at the production stage. `Nag', an anti-tank missile would go into production next year, and work was on to adapt `Astra', an air-to-air missile, to the LCA, he added.

On the academic front, B. Datta Guru, Chairman, Department of Aerospace Engineering, Indian Institute of Science, said research in the coming years would be driven by the need for new design and methods for making aircraft.

Scientists target on developing surface-to-air missile
Our Bureau


Hyderabad , April 14

THE Indian Defence scientists have set their target on developing a long range, surface-to-air missile (SAM) and a `force multiplier', missile that can unleash multiple warheads to destroy different strategic targets.

The SAM, with a range of nearly 100 km, will be ready for flight trials by the end of 2005. It would be in the class of the Patriot missile of the US (90 km) range, according to Dr V.K. Saraswat, Director of the Research Centre Imarat (RCI), one of the key Defence laboratories in the country's missile programme.

The building blocks for the `hit-to-kill', SAM, like the propulsion, control and guidance, homing devices, using radio frequency (RF) seekers, have already been developed at the Hyderabad-based RCI, in collaboration with the other Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), laboratories, he told newspersons.

A long range tracking radar, which can sight an aircraft at a distance of 400 km is under development. It can track about 200 aircraft simultaneously, giving a tactical advantage for the targeting and launching of SAMs, Dr Saraswat said.

Being developed for the Indian Air Force, the SAMs can be launched both from the ground as well as ship, he added.

The ABM has worked. It was the 5th test of interception. The individual system tests have been challenging. The seeker had to be mounted many times on Trishul and Akash. The target towing according to press release was done by Lakshya (we know better) Many ‘Prithvi’ testes had verified the design success of the first stage of the n stage masala. The radar has been a great fusion of many Indian and other technologies. We acquired the Green pine and Antey radars many years ago and we have fused that technology with many home grown ones. I am myself confused by many names that we gave them to hide this. We have been perfecting the interceptor radr for a long time. Every TSP no-dung have been successfully tracked. Rest of the details as agreed upon will not even be committed to paper.

please so shut up "indian cant do this" etc etc/.
this is at very nascent stage, wait and see what it is.

NOTHING CAN BE TRULY PREDICTED BUT BASED ON OBSERVATIONS LIKE

1> PRITHVI 2 WAS TESTED IN 1996, WHY WILL IT BE TESTED 5 TIMES IN BEFOR 4 YEARS.
2> A VEHICLE IS THERE IN DRDO'S SITE NAMED AAD FOR RC1.
3> A SOLID STAGE WAS DEVELOPED WITH DIA SAME AS PRITHVI.
and things like that.

JUST WAIT AND SEE!

 

[joey]

The National Conference on Range Technology (NACORT) - 2006 at the integrated test range (ITR) of Chandipur in Balasore, about 150 km from here, comes a day after India Monday successfully tested a new interceptor rocket - the first step in creating a defence system against incoming ballistic missiles.
http://news.monstersandcritics.com/india/a...ange_technology

'But we will not discuss anything about this interceptor,' ITR director and chairman of the organising committee A.K. Checker told IANS. 'However, if President A.P.J. Abdul Kalam (who inaugurates the conference) wants to speak on this, he may.'

President gace this project in 1998 to his most trusted guy who designed prithvi.

 

[Bull]

This is rumoured to be a arrow-2 system which was passed on to india bypassing the MTCR laws as a gift along with the Nuke deal.

 

[joey]

This is rumoured to be a arrow-2 system which was passed on to india bypassing the MTCR laws as a gift along with the Nuke deal.

OH MAN PLEASE SHUT THE FUK UP THIS IS RIDICULOUS WHEN PEOPLES TALK WITHOUT TECHNICAL KNOWLEDGE.

First of all, This is not a new project It is under developement for atleast to 8 years.

Proof :

Title: India to design ABM on US lines: Kalam
Author:
Publication: The Times of India
Date: 1/5/2000
URL: http://www.timesofindia.com/050100/05home5.htm
Contact: editor@timesofindia.com

PUNE: India is to design a state-of-the-art anti-ballistic missile
(ABM) system on the lines of the US Star-Wars system, according to A P
J Abdul Kalam, the architect of Indian missiles programme. And while
the country's first Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) would be tested before
this month-end, efforts are on to operationalise within two or three
years all missile systems, besides Agni and Prithvi, which had already
been operationalised, he added.

``The country can also pursue a inter-continental ballistic missile
(ICBM) programme, if adequate funds are made available for the
project,'' he told the plenary session of the 87th Indian Science
Congress here on Monday evening.

Kalam, who recently assumed charge as the chief scientific adviser to
the government, was sharing the platform with ISRO chairman K
Kasturirangan and Atomic Energy Commission chairman R Chidambaram
unfolding ``the Indian strategies of science and technology in the
21st century''.

Kalam said the unmanned supersonic aircraft being developed by ISRO
would go a long way in defence application and help save the lives of
pilots.

He added that the future war scenario in the world will be
characterised by economic and cyber warfare involving global dynamics
such as WTO patent regime and technology regime.

He said the Prime Minister's vision of India becoming a developed
nation within two decades would be possible only if the country became
technologically advanced. And the supersonic plane carrying 15 times
of the current orbital load now being developed by ISRO was a step in
that direction.

At the same time, the country had to double its nuclear power
generation to 40,000 MW even as it was preparing itself for a lunar
flight shortly.

Economically strong self-reliant in all aspects, including weapons and
with the standing of its own could make India a developed country
where natural and human resources were blended suitably to ensure
security of food and in defence and industrial sectors.

India, Kalam said, was forced to explode nuclear devices for the
second time to tell the neighbours, including China and Pakistan, that
it did not lag behind in technology.

AEC chairman R. Chidambaram said nuclear option was the only way to
meet indigenous power needs. All the 10 nuclear power plants now
operational in the country were working with 78 per cent average
capacity and had not been affected by the Y2K bug.

Indian industry, he said, was now fully equipped to meet the spare
parts demand of the nuclear programme of the country. The fact that
several reactors had undergone change in their designs over the years
vindicated this aspect.

One of the major achievements of research in atomic energy department,
Chidambaram said, was the development of desalination plants while
efforts were underway to develop ``fission-fusion hydridisation to tap
more energy''.

ISRO chairman Kasturirangan talked of the futuristic space programme
which, he said, included development of mass transport systems
carrying several tonnes of payloads, space tourism, space exploration,
and national information infrastructure combining the gamut of
satellite systems.

Other areas of research underway included mobile satellite services
for fleet monitoring, messaging, datafaxing and voice casting which
could be operational within 10 to 15 years.

India, he said, was working with international agencies for developing
positioning and navigation systems and global position systems and the
action plan would be ready within a year.

Discussions will be held with the rural developent and other
ministries for developing village communication kiosks using digital
sound and data broadcast systems to ensure village development. At the
same time, broadcast capacity to rural areas had to be developed in
phases, he said.

Apart from developing natural disaster monitoring and managing
systems, efforts were underway to make up natural resources inventory
and systems and atlases for socio-economic modelling, resources
inventory systems and direct-to-home

It was officially declared that it is under dev in 2000 means it have to start around 1995 including feasibility tests and things like that.

Second:

I can confirm you Green pine radar is not based in Orissa that takes away the use of it, can your *** please tell me what are these radars for,

MEMS based AESA module for missile applications.
http://www.nal.res.in/isssconf/finalisss/60_PS-07.pdf

Shri Choory Gopalakrishna Balaji
He has been responsible for the development and proving of the command guidance link and radioproximity fuze of the Akash missile. Currently, heheads the Microwave Systems Group at RCI and is responsible for integration of the active radar seekersto the missile, development of the indigenous activeradar seeker, development of an active electronic scanning array for missiles using MEMS,establishment of a radar seeker test facility, and thetower top facility.His areas of interest include RF system developmentand field-related testing of these systems.

http://www.drdo.com/pub/nl/aug06/aug06.pdf

Do let me know about it, what info can you give about the use of these radars.
Now have a look at Rajendra Block 3 http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batterylevelradarinfoboard1lc.jpg

Third T S subramanian is related with ISRO

Prithvi interceptor missile tested successfully

T.S. Subramanian




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

India has acquired air defence capability: M. Natarajan
Target was a modified standard Prithvi-II missile
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


CHENNAI: India acquired on Monday the capability of air defence against ballistic missiles when it launched two missiles, with one intercepting the other, from two ranges off the Orissa coast.

While the target missile took off from the Integrated Test Range at Chandipur-on-sea, near Balasore, the interceptor took off a few seconds later from the Wheeler Island, about 70 km away. It intercepted the target mid-flight and destroyed it over the Bay of Bengal.

"A milestone"


M. Natarajan, Scientific Adviser to the Defence Minister, told The Hindu over the phone from New Delhi: "With this, India has acquired the capability of air defence against the incoming ballistic missile threat. It is a significant milestone in the missile defence of the country."

He described the success of the mission as a "glow made when a thousand lamps are merged into one. That is what I feel."

"There was a lot of not only hardware but also software custom-built for this mission. They have been validated, and that is our greatest satisfaction. The credit should go to the whole team," Mr. Natarajan said.

The project director was Dr. V.K. Saraswat, Chief Controller, Missile and Strategic Systems, Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO).

Trajectory monitored


The target missile was launched around 10.15 a.m. Its trajectory was continuously monitored, and the information stored in the Mission Control Centre. This information was transmitted to the Launch Control Centre for launching the interceptor, which took off some seconds later.

The target was a standard Prithvi-II missile, modified to simulate the trajectory of an enemy missile. A portion of the interceptor was similar to the Prithvi missile but its second stage was a totally new segment.

The interceptor had inertial navigation guidance system, used mid-course in the flight, and an active seeker-guidance system in its terminal phase to waylay the incoming missile.

Many technologies relevant to the interceptor were validated in the mission. A radar was used and the interceptor had a seeker guidance on board.

DRDO sources said the interception could take place at varying heights. "In this instance, the interception took place 50 km above the ground. It can be at any height, depending on the time of the launch because our aim is to destabilise the incoming missile."

Ok now Fourth:

Read this written by a dutch scientist on ramge technology of indians
http://www.tno.nl/defensie_en_veili..._analysis/india_the_interactive_air/index.xml

Fifth:
India was granted further $400 million to develope this named RC1

Indians Divided on Air Defense
Weigh Domestic, U.S. Solutions

By VIVEK RAGHUVANSHI, NEW DELHI
More capable air defense has been a top government priority here for several years. To meet the Army’s future requirements, the DRDO diverted some funds from its missile program in January 2003 to begin developing its own air defense system capable of tracking ballistic missiles.

The Research Centre Imarat (RCI) in Hyderabad, a premier defense laboratory that produces the Agni and Prithvi missile systems and is under the administrative control of DRDO, has been developing a system since early 2003 that would have a range of 100 kilometers.

A DRDO scientist said the previous National Democratic Alliance government was so impressed with the RCI proposal that $444.4 million was allotted in June 2003 to complete the indigenous air defense system by 2008.

He said the unnamed system will begin flight trials in mid-2006. RCI will carry out about 10 flights before deploying it with the Indian defense forces.

The DRDO scientist said the indigenous air defense system will have a mission control system that will conduct target acquisition, classification and track estimation, among other functions.

He said another major element is the active phased-array radar system purchased from Israel. Called Sword Fish, the system was purchased in early 2004 for $50 million and is undergoing trials at Hasan in Karnataka state.

Once the air defense system is operational, the DRDO scientist said, RCI will integrate it with other defense systems via satellite links and a secure digital data link that will enable it to track and transmit data up to a range of 1,000 kilometers.

Sixth :
The vehicle which will be used name AAD
note : Akash uses diff vehicle check www.akashsam.com
http://www.drdo.org/pub/techfocus/aug04/missile15.htm

Seventh:
heres another article

Plans for missile interceptors unveiled

By Our Staff Reporter



BANGALORE Feb. 8. The country's top scientists, engineers, and policy makers put up a "team'' front on the fourth day of Aero India 2003, as they spoke about their plans. Saturday was also the last day of an international seminar on "Aerospace technologies: Developments and strategies''.

The seminar ended with a plenary session on Indian aviation, with the experts talking about going beyond LCA, missile defence, and markets for domestic or joint venture aerospace products.

T.S. Prahlad, former Director of the National Aerospace Laboratories, who conceived the Saras civilian multi-role aircraft, said the Indian Air Force was supporting a limited series production of six planes.

On the LCA project, he said the "most technology-intensive team effort'' had given the country solid grounding in several key technologies. Later, he told The Hindu that the indigenous Kaveri engine was "still the long-term option for the LCA'', on India's reported decision to buy more GE 404 engines to meet production deadlines.

Going beyond the LCA, Dr. Prasad said a medium-range combat aircraft (MCA) was being planned.

A talk by former Chief Advisor to the DRDO, K.G. Narayanan, reinforced the view that unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) would play an increasingly important role in the future. After `Lakshya', the pilotless target aircraft, which now has an export market, and `Nishant', a `sub-sonic' reconnaissance UAV, India will now develop a UAV that will "have a place on a ballistic missile launch warning platform''.

V.K. Saraswat, Director, RCI, DRDO, said missile defence would be given impetus: programmes included developing missile interceptors. Variants of the `Agni' I and II, and those of `Prithvi' were now at the production stage. `Nag', an anti-tank missile would go into production next year, and work was on to adapt `Astra', an air-to-air missile, to the LCA, he added.

On the academic front, B. Datta Guru, Chairman, Department of Aerospace Engineering, Indian Institute of Science, said research in the coming years would be driven by the need for new design and methods for making aircraft.

Eighth:
Assesment before the test by someone

Originally Posted by ArunS
Here is my assessment of the situation:

1. The interceptor being called as Prithvi is a cover for a similar sized ABM missile. I would call this ABM by the name 'Baan' (Sanskrit for arrow)
2. Baan ABM that has been reportedly tested earlier against aerial targets and this is the first test against real BM.
3. Some subtle hint and some other open source info makes me believe that this ABM is 0.65 meter diameter and its booster weighting ~2200Kg.
4. This first version may not have a second stage, thus is suitable for 200-300Km range Short range BM. The same missile can also provide protection against 800Km Ghauri but for a smaller protection (defended) bubble.
5. This first Baan test against Prithvi is to prove out the interceptor (seeker and control system), the long range precision radar and the overall automated ABM system.
6. They will take the next step to add a second stage (fier composite; ~ 400 -500Kg) to make it a MRBM interceptor suitable for 800-1500Km missiles.
7. This would require two types of radars. Undoubtly Rajendra and/or its derivative

Ninth:
Whats your say on this
http://www.drdo.com/pub/techfocus/june2001/moduletech.htm

Tenth
April news

Scientists target on developing surface-to-air missile
Our Bureau


Hyderabad , April 14

THE Indian Defence scientists have set their target on developing a long range, surface-to-air missile (SAM) and a `force multiplier', missile that can unleash multiple warheads to destroy different strategic targets.

The SAM, with a range of nearly 100 km, will be ready for flight trials by the end of 2005. It would be in the class of the Patriot missile of the US (90 km) range, according to Dr V.K. Saraswat, Director of the Research Centre Imarat (RCI), one of the key Defence laboratories in the country's missile programme.

The building blocks for the `hit-to-kill', SAM, like the propulsion, control and guidance, homing devices, using radio frequency (RF) seekers, have already been developed at the Hyderabad-based RCI, in collaboration with the other Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), laboratories, he told newspersons.

A long range tracking radar, which can sight an aircraft at a distance of 400 km is under development. It can track about 200 aircraft simultaneously, giving a tactical advantage for the targeting and launching of SAMs, Dr Saraswat said.

Being developed for the Indian Air Force, the SAMs can be launched both from the ground as well as ship, he added.

That talks about HTK Warhead, what do you know about it,? its impact etc etc?
Do let me know

How do you interpret this?

The ABM has worked. It was the 5th test of interception. The individual system tests have been challenging. The seeker had to be mounted many times on Trishul and Akash. The target towing according to press release was done by Lakshya (we know better) Many ‘Prithvi’ testes had verified the design success of the first stage of the n stage masala. The radar has been a great fusion of many Indian and other technologies. We acquired the Green pine and Antey radars many years ago and we have fused that technology with many home grown ones. I am myself confused by many names that we gave them to hide this. We have been perfecting the interceptor radr for a long time. Every TSP no-dung have been successfully tracked. Rest of the details as agreed upon will not even be committed to paper.

Eleventh:

Check this image and tell me what do you find.

Digital Datalink, for MCC; or rather, to demonstrate that the capanbility exists in the case of a similar system
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/events/aeroindia2005/images/IB-PrithviDDL.jpg

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/events/aeroindia2005/images/IB-PrithviWSP.jpg
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/events/aeroindia2005/images/IB-PritviMCC.jpg

What launcher do you think it is? my ***?
http://www.acig.org/artman/uploads/univ.jpg

Twelth:
If you dont understand with exact technicalities DONT REPLY

Why Israel wont give us Arrow?
1> Israel doesnt has the tech for Arrow, It is with boeing and source codes they have green pine radar and they have surely helped us in radar technology.

2> Arrow 2 is a MCTR CLASS 1 MISSILE WHICH US CANNOT BREAK THE MOMENT US BREAKS IT IT WILL BE THEIR SCARIEST DREAM BECAUSE RUSSIA WILL START GIVING ALL THIRED WORLD WITH KH-55 KENT ETC ETC TYPE MISSILES.IT WILL BE A TOTAL FAILURE OF EU/US AND EVERYTHING.

3> We are involved in SSN/SSBN/SLCM etc etc with russians, and i'm acknowledging it might use TRD 50 engine the sagarika SLCM which has range 1500 kms, what makes you think there will not be any reports on it?

4> ARROW HAS DIFF DIAMETRE AND DIFF INTERCEPTION ALT WITH DIFF WARHEAD, HAVE YOU SEEN THE VIDEO? THE IMPACT CLEARLY SHOWS THIS IS NOT SAME IMPACT AS ARROW 2.

again i'm saying ARROW 2 TECH IS NOT WITH ISRAEL ITS WITH BOEING AND IT IS MCTR CLASS 1 MISSILE.

 

[Contrarian]

ummm...."i surrender, take whatever you want, just please dont hurt me"

EDIT: this edit is to say that the next post by Joey, does not refer to me. For i am scared he might pop a vein, get an INSAS and kill the next guy who disagree's.

 

[joey]

before you pass bullshittin comments why dont you want and see what this is? and wait 5 years?

next day if we test space based laser (DURGA is under dev, KALI has finished dev) you'll tell US gave us?

 

[joey]

malay just read this this is more than enough.

Title: India to design ABM on US lines: Kalam
Author:
Publication: The Times of India
Date: 1/5/2000
URL: http://www.timesofindia.com/050100/05home5.htm
Contact: editor@timesofindia.com

PUNE: India is to design a state-of-the-art anti-ballistic missile
(ABM) system on the lines of the US Star-Wars system, according to A P
J Abdul Kalam, the architect of Indian missiles programme. And while
the country's first Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) would be tested before
this month-end, efforts are on to operationalise within two or three
years all missile systems, besides Agni and Prithvi, which had already
been operationalised, he added.

If this is officially acknowledged in 2000, MOD reports said dev started in 1998 then feasibility study etc etc must have to start around 1995.its a good 8 to 10 year work.

 

[Contrarian]

i already knew this mate. I saw these reports in BR too. LOL. I am not the one who is nay-saying!!

 

[MIG_ACE]

Bull,
Tell me why wud the MTCR regulations apply to the Arrow-2?? Its a ballistic missile DEFENCE system not a nuke capable BM itself?? Further if MTCR really was an issue the US wudnt have offered us the Patriot.They didnt offer us the Arrow because it was too advanced and they didnt want us or any other country except israel and US to have it.There's no reason why thy'd change that now.So that rumour about it being an arrow-2 is BS.

 

[joey]

Mig_ace your wrong.
1> Arrow 2 is a MCTR class 1 missile google it and see.
2> Pac 3 is not.
3> There is no fukin question of this being Arrow 2 as indian radar was used, arrow 2 tech is with boeing not israel and thing like that.
4> India simply cannot afford it.
5> Russia is the nation harming its trade most for this MCTR, you cant imagine if MCTR fallout happened they'd know and what they'd do.
selling kh-55 to iran anyone?
6> When more secret projects are on net, ssn/slbm etc etc a Arrow 2 is utter bull crap you can find numerous article bout india developing ABM but not about india got Arrow 2 which was denied to india.
nuke deal is NOT EVEN PASSED.and its US doing us favor giving the nuke deal.
7>The impact, warhead etc etc nothing matches to arrow 2 i mean it nothing.
8> This is in nascent stage give it another year or two to progress.

 

[MIG_ACE]

Ok I was probably wrong abt MTCR.But even I said that our ABM is NOT a smuggled in Arrow.

 

[joey]

ofcourse man. US CANNOT VIOLATE MCTR AS THEN THE OTHER NATIONS WILL VIOLATE IT, MCTR IS THE KEY OF UUS NOT FINDING 1000 KMS WEAPONS IN IRAN/IRAQ.
IT WILL BE A HUGE HUGE DIPLOMATIC FALLOUT.

ITS WITH BOEING HOW EVEN ONE CAN IMAGINE N CONGRESS BET ETC ETC AND WE GOT ARROW 2.
LMFAO.

 

[Contrarian]

Uhm...as regards to MTCR...there are ways around it...

Let me for instance just say that the experts say that BrahMos is TOOOOO big for a missile of its range and capacity That its not normal.

Let me also say that Russian and Indian designers said that the BrahMos range had been 'changed' to conform to the MTCR.
By all means, India co-developed the system. It can cetainly be changed back.