India still dominates Pak's strategic threat perception: US April 06, 2011

[casual]

techincally we dont have to when you sit in the same kind of glass house which we live in.....

i'm not sitting and my house is not made of glass

 

[divya]

i'm not sitting and my house is not made of glass

actually it is glass. your government said its not glass so you belived that it is not glass....

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

actually it is glass. your government said its not glass so you belived that it is not glass....

You know casual is an American citzen, right?

 

[tanlixiang28776]

You know casual is an American citzen, right?

Does it matter?

 

[divya]

You know casual is an American citzen, right?

Reduce your population man. Damn it you guys are everywhere....

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Does it matter?

I guess not, lol.

 

[tanlixiang28776]

Reduce your population man. Damn it you guys are everywhere....

this coming from an Indian person. The irony is truly mind boggling.

 

[divya]

this coming from an Indian person. The irony is truly mind boggling.

 

[53fd]

I wouldn't go so far as to say "It's up for grabs"... It would be a cheap and emotionless statement especially to the Kashmiri people.

Truly unfortunate how the events in the history have put us in this situation, but if it is a genuine interest in improving the infrastructure, I wonder why the Pakistani engineers are not doing it. After all you guys have built world class Motorways inside your country and I am sure you have all the technical expertise to build your own highways.

Yes, Pakistani engineers have done wonderful development projects before. I hope you're not suggesting that just because Chinese engineers have high input in some projects, Pakistan & China are going to gang up against India? That is preposterous. Chinese engineers have worked on other development projects in Pakistan as well. Pakistan has helped shore up China's military strength as well in the past.

 

[divya]

Yes, Pakistani engineers have done wonderful development projects before. I hope you're not suggesting that just because Chinese engineers have high input in some projects, Pakistan & China are going to gang up against India? That is preposterous. Chinese engineers have worked on other development projects in Pakistan as well. Pakistan has helped shore up China's military strength as well in the past.

I am not sure but as far as i know this is how things work with china and pakistan. China gives soft loans to pakistan which eventually gives work to chinese enggineers with chinese money itself and then pakistan pays a less interst over the same money which majority proportion has already gone back to china.

 

[casual]

Reduce your population man. Damn it you guys are everywhere....

ya we know. that's why there's the one child policy.

 

[divya]

ya we know. that's why there's the one child policy.

which is technically faulty as it causes population aging problem

 

[rockstarIN]

The Indians are especially interested in Gilgit-Baltistan because it borders Afghanistan. India badly wants a border with Afghanistan.

The whole Afghanistan is open to us, so go for GB?

 

[Vinod2070]

Whose talking about an invasion? What we fear is that India might decide to teach Pakistan a lesson and capture strategic locations inside Pakistan. If the Indians are successful in doing that, we might have to make painful concessions against India and will be forced to accept India as the Big Brother of South Asia. It will not matter what the world will say if the Indian tanks have moved in and captured 100km of our territory, they will hold the upper hand because they will be holding our land hostage.

It is simply an excuse from the Indian side that their weapons are aimed at China, they are and have always been aimed at Pakistan. Just look at the positioning of the Indian military, the cream assets of their military are deployed on their Western borders against Pakistan. Thus we are forced to ensure that we have adequate deterrence on our borders that in case the Indians act naughty, we have the necessary punch to thwart their aggressive designs.

Mate, there is a series of self reinforcing madness at play here.

You claim Kashmir though it has just 2% of Indian Muslims

India is not going to give an inch, come what may

You don't accept the reality and try out wars and terror
Increases hardships for Kashmiris

You increase it even more, your PA/ISI believes that India won't be able to sustain the burden (you estimated that India will reach the breaking point at 500,000 IA in Kashmir)

India sustains it with not even a pause in our growth

Your society turns extremist because of the policies pursued over the decades

The terror hardens Indian attitudes and creates the need for "teaching the lesson" that you talked of here


Now, those who matter in Pakistan had realized decades back that it is not going to get Kashmir. By any means!

The wet dreams of military victory over "Hindu India" by "Martial Muslim Pakistan" had been put to rest in 1965 and sealed in 1971.

This Kashmir policy is now running more for domestic reasons than anything else.

And this leads to the unnecessary hostility that causes you real pain, while you cause pinpricks to India.

If only we had rational players playing the game!

 

[Vinod2070]

Does it matter?

Really, does it matter!

For all practical purposes, it doesn't. At least on this issue.