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India spanks USA over diplomat arrest issue !

I remember Raymond Davis case where in he was not even a diplomat but still got saved by throwing some $$$$ for two murders in Pakistan.

I wish the US had a law of "Fraud Money" just like "Blood Money" so that we can pay and get out of this mess.
 
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What John Kerry had in mind take it up with John Kerry kid.

All I know he picked up a phone and apologized :lol:



Oh right, how can i forget, exactly same words used by Obama after spanking in Salala :lol:

Did the infested water in your Mumbai slum impair your ability of reason and logic ? What the f*ck does this have to do with Salala?!

And by the way, since you brought it up US did apologize for Salala while your bharti baari got manhandled, cavity searched(according to your media) and strip searched by US Marshals got only regrets.

I'm still trying to figure out the title of this thread.

its to show bharat is a 'supa powa'

I remember Raymond Davis case where in he was not even a diplomat but still got saved by throwing some $$$$ for two murders in Pakistan.

I wish the US had a law of "Fraud Money" just like "Blood Money" so that we can pay and get out of this mess.
And you remember how joyful the Indians were when RD case happened... All the Indians were cheer leading for the Americans all over the web.

But one must point out, not a single Chinese or Pakistani has supported this action against your diplomat. This is the difference between dignified and undignified people!
 
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Did the infested water in your Mumbai slum impair your ability of reason and logic ? What the f*ck does this have to do with Salala?!

And by the way, since you brought it up US did apologize for Salala while your bharti baari got manhandled, cavity searched(according to your media) and strip searched by US Marshals got only regrets.



its to show bharat is a 'supa powa'


And you remember how joyful the Indians were when RD case happened... All the Indians were cheer leading for the Americans all over the web.

But one must point out, not a single Chinese or Pakistani has supported this action against your diplomat. This is the difference between dignified and undignified people!

What is RD case? What did Indians cheer for?
 
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What is RD case? What did Indians cheer for?


RD=Raymon David whom was accused of murder Pakistan and US government used diplomat immunity to circumvent the law and paid compensation to the family victim to get Raymon David safely back to the US.
 
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RD=Raymon David whom was accused of murder Pakistan and US government used diplomat immunity to circumvent the law and paid compensation to the family victim to get Raymon David safely back to the US.



Indian was cheering how US helped Raymon David got away with murder.

The Raymond Davis case




Indian now all upset since they can't used the diplomat immunity to protect one of their own.
 
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And you remember how joyful the Indians were when RD case happened... All the Indians were cheer leading for the Americans all over the web.

But one must point out, not a single Chinese or Pakistani has supported this action against your diplomat. This is the difference between dignified and undignified people!
I was not talking about being joyful at all.

I was just saying I wish US had a law like Pakistan wherein you can throw some money and get away with even a murder.

This way, you see, we could have avoided this row.
 
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I was not talking about being joyful at all.

I was just saying I wish US had a law like Pakistan wherein you can throw some money and get away with even a murder.

This way, you see, we could have avoided this row.

I didn't say you specifically were joyful....

I was referring to the Indians in general on the web
 
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Mail Today has accessed official documents to weave the story together. This is how it all went down:

NOVEMBER 2012: Sangeeta Richard enters the United States with Deputy Consul General Devyani Khobragade.

JUNE 23, 2013: Richard goes missing. In Delhi, her husband says he has no idea where she is. Richard had some days earlier sought Khobragade's permission to take up another part-time job in New York; it was denied.

JUNE 24, 2013: Office of Foreign Missions (OFM) in New York informed, and its help requested in tracing Richard. An intriguing part of the story is how difficult it became for Khobragade to file a Missing Persons Report with the NYPD. It was on the advice of the OFM, Khobragade went to file a missing person report at the police precinct concerned, but was told that she could not since Richard was an adult, and that such a report could only be lodged by a member of her family.

When Mr Richard, Sangeeta's husband, was contacted, he refused to file a Missing Person Report, indicating his awareness of something being amiss.

JUNE 25, 2013: Unable to file a report, Devyani sends a letter to the police precinct concerned, requesting them to file a missing person report and trace Richard. Sustained efforts resulted in the NYPD seeking inspection of Khobragade's residence.

As diplomatic premises are out of bounds for local law enforcement agencies, Khobragade was interviewed in front of the Permanent Mission of India, her residence, and a missing person report filed by the NYPD.

JULY 1, 2013: A woman claiming to be the Richard's lawyer calls Khobragade to tell her that Sangeeta would not go to court only if, one, the Indian diplomat signs a 566 form authorising the maid to terminate her employment, and, two, change her visa status from government visa to normal visa, and, three, be compensated for 19 hours of work per day.

Khobragade refuses to negotiate on the phone, insisting that the caller first identify herself. She claims the caller hung up.

JULY 2, 2013: Khobragade informs the OFM about these developments in writing, seeking NYPD support in ascertaining the identity of the caller and her links with Richard, and claiming the conversations clearly indicate that the runaway maid has no intention of returning to India and seems keen to extort money by making false accusations. No action is taken.

Khobragade files a written complaint with the Delhi Police against Sangeeta Richard and her husband Philip Richard, accusing them of cheating under Section 420 of the Indian Penal Code, and asking the police to begin proceedings against them and recover the maid's official passport.

JULY 5, 2013: Khobragade files complaint of "aggravated harassment" with respect to the phone call received on July 1 for extortion and blackmail. No action taken by NYPD. Michael Phillips, Director (Human Resources) at the US embassy in New Delhi, is called by senior MEA official and briefed about missing maid, reports filed with the US State Department and NYPD, and the FIR filed in India against Sangeeta Richard.

The assistance of the State Department and US Embassy is sought in locating the maid and sending her back to India to pre-empt this being used as an immigration channel. The US Embassy conveys its understanding and promises to follow-up with the State Department and local authorities. No feedback is received India's requests, however.

Similar requests were made by the Indian Embassy in Washington D.C. to the State Department in Washington D.C.

Lack of cooperation by Philip Richard prompts Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) to advise Khobragade on filing a First Information Report in Delhi against the Richard family for wilful deceit and attempt to cheat to illegally immigrate to the US by wrongful means.

Based on the MEA's advice, Khobragade also files for an anticipatory anti-suit injunction in the Delhi High Court so as to prevent filing of any case in the US by Richard to avoid ensuing litigation in the US.

JULY 8, 2013: Khobragade is called to 'Access Immigration', an immigration lawyer's office, to discuss terms of settlement with Richard. Accompanied by the consulate officers, Khobragade meets Richard who seeks payment of $10,000 and the granting of an ordinary Indian passport, along with whatever immigration relief is required to stay on in the US on that ordinary passport.

Consulate officials tell Richard that she cannot remain in the US under any circumstances without legal authorisation, and that she should return to India as per her contract with Khobragade. Richard is told that any argument over salary or working hours could be settled in the consulate before her return to India. Richard refuses, saying that she wants to remain in the US.

Khobragade complains to the NYPD about the demands, but there is no response. Richard's passport is revoked and notice for termination of her personal identity also given to OFM with effect from June 22, 2013. Richard is now staying illegally in the US. A felony / theft complaint is filed with the NYPD against Richard by Khobragade's husband, reporting theft of cash, Blackberry phone, two SIM cards, a metro card (valued at $113) and documents such as contracts, signed receipt book-cum-working hour log. No action is taken.



JULY 15 & 19, 2013: Philip Richard filed a writ petition against Khobragade and the Union of India, alleging that his wife Sangeeta Richard was in police custody in New York since July 8, 2013, charging the Indian diplomat with "slave labour" and illegally making Sangeeta sign a 'second contract' with far less pay and perks. The Union of India is accused of not paying according to the requirements of the local law. Richard withdraws his writ petition four days later.

JULY 30, 2013: A copy of Philip Richard's writ petition is forwarded to OFM, which states that Sangeeta is in police custody in New York, for producing the maid at the Consulate so she can be repatriated to India as requested by her husband in his writ petition. Consul General is also informed that Richard was last seen at the office of Access Immigration on July 8, 2013. No action taken by the US.



SEPTEMBER 4, 2013: The US State Department issues a one-sided letter to the Indian Ambassador, projecting the allegations of the maid which are of "considerable concern", and asking for the allegations to be probed. It also seeks a voluntary meeting between Khobragade and the Bureau of Diplomatic Security in the State Department as well as proof of payment of minimum wages from the embassy.

SEPTEMBER 10, 2013: In Delhi, MEA calls US officials and strongly protests against the tone and content of the letter.

SEPTEMBER 20, 2013: Delhi High Court issues an ex-parte ad interim injunction against Philip and Sangeeta Richard, restraining them from initiating any legal action or proceedings against Khobragade in any Court / Tribunal / Forum outside India with regard to her employment. The final hearing in the matter is scheduled December 13, 2013.

SEPTEMBER 21, 2013: A reply is sent to the State Department by the Indian Embassy in Washington, rebutting the allegations and bringing out the facts of the case while highlighting the fact that Sangeeta Richard is seeking monetary settlement and a US visa, thereby seeking to subvert both Indian and US laws. The letter also emphasises that the matter is an issue between the Government of India and one of its employees and is not subject to US regulation or adjudication. Assistance of the State Department is sought in locating and repatriating Sangeeta Richard to India.

NOVEMBER 19, 2013: Metropolitan Magistrate of South District, New Delhi, issues a non-bailable arrest warrant against Sangeeta Richard.

DECEMBER 6, 2013: The arrest warrant issued by the Delhi Metropolitan court is forwarded to the US State Department and the US Embassy in New Delhi, requesting them to instruct the relevant authorities in the US to arrest and repatriate Sangeeta Richard to India through the Consulate in New York, so that due process of law may be prosecuted in India. No action is taken by the US.

DECEMBER 12, 2013: Khobragade arrested on the basis of a Second District court warrant for visa fraud as she drops her daughter to school in New York. Immunity is denied under the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations (VCCR) for this "felony charge" Bail posted at $250,000, Khobragade's passport is seized, and she is asked not to leave the country or seek another travel document though she can travel within the US after notifying authorities. She is been not to be in touch with Sangeeta Richard.

JANUARY 13, 2014: Next date of hearing is announced, but Khobragade's attorney claims he is not free that day and is negotiating another date, which will be known in due course. Pre-trial process commenced on December 16, 2013 where a urine sample was taken by US authorities for drugs testing.



Read more: Decoding the Devyani Khobragade controversy: How a row over a maid's visa sparked a full-scale diplomatic incident | Mail Online
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well, India have no clout to bring back this diplomat. And all it can do is whine. Epic fail.





India have no real power to assert pressure the US government to release the diplomat without charge. Should have know their position in the world 1st before make all kind of fuss and their childish display and accomplish nothing on the diplomacy level.
 
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India have no real power to assert pressure the US government to release the diplomat without charge. Should have know their position in the world 1st before make all kind of fuss and their childish display and accomplish nothing on the diplomacy level.

Well, they get Kerry to say its a regrettable event. But we going to keep her in jail for violating our law.

Indian elite will just have to live with the fact that when they are over seas, they are not above the law like when they are back home.
 
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Well, they get Kerry to say its a regrettable event. But we going to keep her in jail for violating our law.

Indian elite will just have to live with the fact that when they are over seas, they are not above the law like when they are back home.




No doubt, US law apply to everyone who ever walk on US soil outside of the national embassy.
 
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Let's be the judge, after NATO strike on a PA outpost , Pakistan for several months blocked all NATO shipments and containers that was a move against 27 NATO countries, a move which hurt the NATO war effort and cost them billions, Pakistan also made concessions which were met.

Compare that to India's female diplomat is arrested, strip-searched, fingered, cavity searched, and humiliated in front of her daughter, put in jail with drug addicts, and India's response restrict cheap booze and street barriers and a few minor things.

Doesn't that prove India barely needs to move a muscle to get Washington's attention as opposed to Pakistan that had to virtually cut all ties(and get all of their aid cut too) with the United States for an apology that never came? One almost feels sad at the desperation of Islamabad. What happened to the "non-negotiable preconditions" Pakistan set? Did you collect all the taxes from the containers crossing by? What about the civilian nuclear deal "on par with India" you folks demanded, eh? A complete stop to drone strikes, any updates on that?

Funny you would equate the cold blooded execution of 24 Pakistani soldiers to this incident. It's even funnier that you would try to pass your nation's complete and abject humiliation as some sort of diplomatic victory.
 
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