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Sky News host Andrew Bolt says India should "fix its own caste system" before making “big international gestures” against racism.

It comes after the Indian cricket took the knee as a protest against racism before its game against Pakistan.

“This is from a team representing the country that should first fix its own caste system before making big international statements,” he said.

“The Hindu caste system that has Brahmins, the priest caste at the very top, and the Untouchables down at the very, very bottom.

“Has the Indian team ever taken the knee to protest against that, or is that a bit too close to home?”
 
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Uh oh you reminded us of all the lovely memes that were made when Indians were disappointed by their ally Israel during the recent Israel Palestine war couple months back.

Boy the entire muslim world was mocking them.
 
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Sky News host Andrew Bolt says India should "fix its own caste system" before making “big international gestures” against racism.

It comes after the Indian cricket took the knee as a protest against racism before its game against Pakistan.

“This is from a team representing the country that should first fix its own caste system before making big international statements,” he said.

“The Hindu caste system that has Brahmins, the priest caste at the very top, and the Untouchables down at the very, very bottom.

“Has the Indian team ever taken the knee to protest against that, or is that a bit too close to home?”


India a disgusting country, full of liars, bigots and scammers.
Now that you've had your fun and quota for the day, I seriously want to ask you, what is it that should be done to remove casteism that has not been done already.

Like, what steps should the government take to eradicate this evil that has already not been done.

And subsequently, since the rivalry matters, are there not marginalised communities in Pakistan as well?
 
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Sky News host Andrew Bolt says India should "fix its own caste system" before making “big international gestures” against racism.

It comes after the Indian cricket took the knee as a protest against racism before its game against Pakistan.

“This is from a team representing the country that should first fix its own caste system before making big international statements,” he said.

“The Hindu caste system that has Brahmins, the priest caste at the very top, and the Untouchables down at the very, very bottom.

“Has the Indian team ever taken the knee to protest against that, or is that a bit too close to home?”


India a disgusting country, full of liars, bigots and scammers.


what a bitch slap by india's white masters..
 
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Salaam

Now that you've had your fun and quota for the day, I seriously want to ask you, what is it that should be done to remove casteism that has not been done already.

Like, what steps should the government take to eradicate this evil that has already not been done.

And subsequently, since the rivalry matters, are there not marginalised communities in Pakistan as well?

Maybe start international sporting events by taking a knee against the caste system in India? If it's good for the goose it's good for the gander. I don't know if taking a knee is effective against racism but the Indian team thinks it is and so they should try that?

What do you think the US should do to address the racism within itself?
 
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Like, what steps should the government take to eradicate this evil that has already not been done.

Like it should publicly dismiss its co-party chief minister of Uttar Pradesh, Yogi Adityanath, who wants the Manusmriti to become the Indian Constitution. The Manusmriti is a foul, anti-human book, probably 3000 years old, which is called the guide book of an ideal Hindu society and prescribes the caste system and other such anti-human things. The government should also publicly dismiss its co-party member of parliament Sadhvi Pragya who once wondered in a public function that if the three Upper Castes ( Brahmins, Kshatriyas and Vaishyas ) don't mind being assigned their socio-economic positions why do the Lower Castes ( Shudras and Dalits ) mind being assigned their names and their consequent socio-economic positions. That will be a start.

Now that you've had your fun and quota for the day, I seriously want to ask you, what is it that should be done to remove casteism that has not been done already.

The current system of Reservations for the Lower Castes is a half-hearted effort. It hasn't eradicated casteism in the seventy years of Independence. So adopt Communism with sincerity. People can still believe in God but not take their religious beliefs to anti-human, oppressive, disharmonious and obscene levels. Doing such will eradicate casteism automatically.
 
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Taking the knee / placing hand on the heart is something being done in all the matches in the tournament by all the teams. So clearly it is an ICC diktat.

What did people expect from the Indian team? That they should not take the knee? In a world that is defined by 'either you are with us or against us', not taking the knee when every other team is doing so would have caused a twitter riot and the same team would have been labelled racist for not doing it.
 
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Now that you've had your fun and quota for the day, I seriously want to ask you, what is it that should be done to remove casteism that has not been done already.

Like, what steps should the government take to eradicate this evil that has already not been done.

And subsequently, since the rivalry matters, are there not marginalised communities in Pakistan as well?

For a start.. stop voting for leaders who believe in this non sense.
 
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They also have incredible religious bigotry against Indians who are Muslim, mostly common folk who mind their own business, who don't know much about politics and religion. This becomes especially potent when mixed with the caste system. Muslim countries have embassies in India and they have kept silent against anti Muslim tirades from Indian political leaders. It's an ideology which disenfranchises, promotes boycott, discrimination, prejudice, persecution, abuse, and violence. Freaking sick.
 
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Salaam


Taking the knee / placing hand on the heart is something being done in all the matches in the tournament by all the teams. So clearly it is an ICC diktat.

What did people expect from the Indian team? That they should not take the knee? In a world that is defined by 'either you are with us or against us', not taking the knee when every other team is doing so would have caused a twitter riot and the same team would have been labelled racist for not doing it.

I'm curious, are there any teams that didn't take the knee? Did the Pakistani team do it?
 
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Salaam



Maybe start international sporting events by taking a knee against the caste system in India? If it's good for the goose it's good for the gander. I don't know if taking a knee is effective against racism but the Indian team thinks it is and so they should try that?

What do you think the US should do to address the racism within itself?
Taking a knee is a symbolic gesture, actually legislative and constitutional enactments supersede them, wont you agree? I'm not debating the efficacy of the current system, simply asking again what in your kind opinion should be done that has already not been done legislatively and socially.

Having a pre existing ill does not disqualify one from speaking out against the others.

Like it should publicly dismiss its co-party chief minister of Uttar Pradesh, Yogi Adityanath, who wants the Manusmriti to become the Indian Constitution. The Manusmriti is a foul, anti-human book, probably 3000 years old, which is called the guide book of an ideal Hindu society and prescribes the caste system and other such anti-human things. The government should also publicly dismiss its co-party member of parliament Sadhvi Pragya who once wondered in a public function that if the three Upper Castes ( Brahmins, Kshatriyas and Vaishyas ) don't mind being assigned their socio-economic positions why do the Lower Castes ( Shudras and Dalits ) mind being assigned their names and their consequent socio-economic positions. That will be a start.



The current system of Reservations for the Lower Castes is a half-hearted effort. It hasn't eradicated casteism in the seventy years of Independence. So adopt Communism with sincerity. People can still believe in God but not take their religious beliefs to anti-human, oppressive, disharmonious and obscene levels. Doing such will eradicate casteism automatically.
Fortunately or unfortunately, our constitution has no punitive damages for being a dull witted racist or a manipulative one. What should be done and what can is hampered by the system made by our founding fathers. In their wisdom, they recognised what could be changed and what should be kicked down the line for the wisdom of the parliament to decide, in that at least they were wise enough to recognise operational limitations. Stupidity is an inherent right for those free to speak.

I read up on your posts, I admire them, but in my opinion they are an idealistic solution with no leverage to adapt to the nitty gritty of actual polity and our populace. The human nature is too varied and inherently self serving for an utopian system to establish itself or survive. it simply does not survive contact with actual operational problems in the long term. its been tried countless times and mayhap our version might be the most correct implementation in the spirit as well as application, but data indicates otherwise. Many have tried it, many have failed. The current system is not a perfect one, it barely gets the job done and is often at whims of populist measures, but its a complex problem to solve with no perfect answers.

IF one could conjure up the apple of Eden as a panacea for all ills and asked people to eat it sincerely and obtain their salvation. We would still manage to find a way to bungle that up. Asking anyone to do anything sincerely from a rambunctious bunch like us, simply becomes an excuse later to justify the eventual pitfalls of whatever plan is in action, a system that ignores the base quality of its constituents is incapable of addressing their problems effectively.

For a start.. stop voting for leaders who believe in this non sense.
So long as the people of this subcontinent blame their neighbours for the ills that affect the common man, leaders such as that are going to keep popping up. Patience, education and awareness seem to be the way forward, alas we are ruled by emotions easily swayed by populists, simply changing the leader is not going to help because the problem has its roots on both sides, not simply one.

We're not so different in that way, our chequered history is replete with examples wherein when one wishes for peace the other usually has a leader that is least bothered with it.
 
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Salaam




I'm curious, are there any teams that didn't take the knee? Did the Pakistani team do it?

Salaam,
Pakistani players placed their hands on their heart. I read on some news website that since it is forbidden for Muslims to take the knee for anyone except god, they would show their solidarity with the movement by placing hands on their heart. I am not sure what the Afghans and Bangladeshis did. I missed the openings of their matches. I did see SA, Aus, NZ taking the knee. Don't know about others.

I am fine with Indians taking the knee against casteism. They can do so in IPL. Asking all international teams to do so will be too much. But then what about foreign players in IPL? I think a single gesture against all kind of discrimination and hate is enough. In any case I personally believe that caste system is India's racism.
 
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