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India should conform to UN resolutions on Masood Azhar's issue: China

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Well the brave chinese claimed that the drone had violated chinese waters . So does china have the nerve to defend its waters or its just all big talk in pdf ? Letting go of the drone in a week ? How did that hurt the americans.
When did we claim that? We only wanted to humiliate US , all American can see and understand that only fails Indians. do you seriously think that China wants to have that drone? for what purpose.

India is with Mongolia and will be.

Please put your money where your mouth is.
 
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There will be no further consultations with china , India will get NSG membership.

Good. Please stop consulting with China then, make your words mean something.

Its ok you have power you can use it how long can you deny us our place one day or the other you have to give in and we will keep trying till we reach the objective.

Its all in the game.

It's all about give and take.

India wants something from China, but what are they giving in return? Boycotting (which failed), annoying us with the Tibetan government in Exile and the South China Sea?

India just wants everything, while giving nothing in return. Exactly what Nehru said to Zhou Enlai when Zhou Enlai offered a mutual exchange of recognition between Aksai Chin and AP in 1960. Nehru only wanted all of it, he refused to negotiate. In the end he lost both.

If India thinks they can continue to pester China without getting all their NSG/UNSC dreams vetoed down, they can continue on their current path, and just keep assuming we are idiots.
 
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Dalai Lama has been trying to unstabilize China for decades and personally involved in many such activities. China is not responsible for Indian insurgencies problems either.


A lose is a lose.
Good. Please stop consulting with China then, make your words mean something.



It's all about give and take.

India wants something from China, but what are they giving in return? Boycotting (which failed), annoying us with the Tibetan government in Exile and the South China Sea?

India just wants everything, while giving nothing in return. Exactly what Nehru said to Zhou Enlai when Zhou Enlai offered a mutual exchange of recognition between Aksai Chin and AP. Nehru only wanted all of it, he refused to negotiate. In the end he lost both.

So according to you what dose China want?
 
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So according to you what dose China want?

India wants something from China, yes? They want us to let them into the NSG and the UNSC.

And what do they give in return except for boycotts, selling weapons to Vietnam, using the Tibetan government in Exile as a political weapon, drilling for oil in the South China Sea?

Give and take. India wants something, what are they going to give us? Will they stop all of the above, or what? The answer seems to be no, so veto will continue to be used, as it has already been several times.

Like you said, it's the game. India wants everything while giving nothing in return.
 
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chinese nd porkis are shameless
they only know how to protect terrorists :coffee:
So according to you what dose China want?
We know what China doesn't want, using Dalai Lama as a card against us and aiding and abetting him going everywhere , south Tibet, Mongolia to cause trouble

Indians naively believe that Dalai Lama is a card which India can use against China at their will, truth is it's not a card for India, it's a curse.
 
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India wants something from China, yes? They want us to let them into the NSG and the UNSC.

And what do they give in return except for boycotts, selling weapons to Vietnam, using the Tibetan government in Exile as a political weapon, drilling for oil in the South China Sea?

Give and take. India wants something, what are they going to give us? Will they stop all of the above, or what? The answer seems to be no, so veto will continue to be used, as it has already been several times.

Like you said, it's the game. India wants everything while giving nothing in return.

So basically China wants India to

1. Stop boycotting Chinese goods (Well there was no such boycott in real but only a few people demanded that we should boycott but nothing really happen in real)

2. Using Tibetan government in exile as a political tool. I am not sure how influential the dalailama himself is in China (Tibet) but i dont really see these people being used. India recognizes One China Policy which means dont support independence of Tibet.

The next question is can we kick the Tibetans out of India? NO. Thats not the right thing to do as most people here are now more Indian than Chinese (Tibetan). I guess this problem will get solved only with time. Until there is no dalailama.

3. Selling weapons to Vietnam and drilling oil in SCS
These are just new incidents and they definitely cant be seen as Indian mistakes because even before this; China has armed Pakistan to the teeth and China has built CPEC through Kashmir (A disputed territory like SCS)

I would say both India and China have to be pragmatic and keep the larger picture in mind and resolve these misunderstandings for greater good of our two countries.

In all the three points you mentioned only the 2nd point is valid. I agree hosting the Dalai lama in India is one of India's mistakes we should have not interfered but at that time India and Tibet enjoyed good relations and what Indian political leadership did was more because of the common values.
I hope we can see pragmatic changes in India China relations where we can co exist :cheers:

We know what China doesn't want, using Dalai Lama as a card against us and aiding and abetting him going everywhere , south Tibet, Mongolia to cause trouble

Indians naively believe that Dalai Lama is a card which India can use against China at their will, truth is it's not a card for India, it's a curse.

But is dalai lama really that influential ? I thought in China the state had full control. Why would a monk traveling to different parts of the world bother China?

You guys have already controlled Tibet and now completely assimilated it in to China.
 
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But is dalai lama really that influential ? I thought in China the state had full control. Why would a monk traveling to different parts of the world bother China?

You guys have already controlled Tibet and now completely assimilated it in to China.

It's a Tibetan Government in Exile. They have an official claim to be the Government of Tibet.

Imagine China hosted a Kashmiri Government in Exile or a Manipur Government in Exile? It's a direct challenge to a country's legitimacy.

I hope we can see pragmatic changes in India China relations where we can co exist :cheers:

Well that would require the Indian Government to support the concept of give and take. So far they haven't budged on any of the issues mentioned, and it seems unlikely that will change anytime soon.

Status quo seems fine for now.
 
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It's a Tibetan Government in Exile. They have an official claim to be the Government of Tibet.

Imagine China hosted a Kashmiri Government in Exile or a Manipur Government in Exile? It's a direct challenge to a country's legitimacy.

I think you are intelligent and realize that India does not really recognize your claim on Tibet. Regardless of India's lip service to the One China line over the past few decades, as India gets richer and stronger, you will see a metamorphosis of that stand. It is inevitable. And your leaders recognize it.
 
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