India short of 500,000 doctors, bodies on shoulders reminders of health crisis

[MilSpec]

thats a short sighted idea... india will be ruined if we dont have effective opposition... and there is no national opposition party currently that can grow to fill the role of congress.

To begin Sonia-congress is not an effective opposition.


As far as shortsightedness of the Idea, That's the nature of creating vaccum in pressurized environment, as soon as one is created, air rushes in from all side to fill it. UP was once a congress state, as soon as congress weakened, local parties swooped in to take it's place. Congress for good 4 decades did not have national opposition, did India get ruined?

Jobless congressi leaders will find another party, the real congress ideologues will go to their commie alma matter (or join NDTV), the lackeys like antony, kursheed, sibal, Aiyer will find smaller political families for chamcha giri...

This Sham of a congress that doesn't have an iota of commonality with INC needs to die, and die soon.

 

[livingdead]

Sure there will be, That's the nature of creating vaccum in pressurised environment, as soon as one is created, air rushes in from all side to fill it. UP was once a congress state, as soon as congress weakened, local parties swooped in to take it's place. Congress for good 4 decades did not have national opposition, did India get ruined?

Jobless congressi leaders will find another party, the real congress ideologues will go to their commie alma matter, the lackeys like antony, kursheed, sibal, Aiyer will find smaller political families for chamcha giri...

This Sham of a congress that doesn't have an iota of commonality with INC needs to die, and die soon.

India did not get ruined but surely most of the congress policies got unchallenged during the period congress was ruling... there was no effective opposition... and congress used to sack state govt willy nilly.. while rise of regional parties will make sure that wont happen again... but an effective opposition is required to keep the govt in check.
Many of our failure to deal with insurgencies date back to the period when congress thought they are like mughals and can rule with iron fist... IG typified such mentality.

currently I would not wish congress mukt bharat or bjp mukt bharat... even communists have been demoted from national party and a hodgepodge coalition of regional parties is not a good enough opposition.

The current GST episode shows congress is responsible and effective opposition.

 

[MilSpec]

India did not get ruined but surely most of the congress policies got unchallenged during the period congress was ruling... there was no effective opposition... and congress used to sack state govt willy nilly.. while rise of regional parties will make sure that wont happen again... but an effective opposition is required to keep the govt in check.
currently I would not wish congress mukt bharat or bjp mukt bharat... even communists have been demoted from national party and a hodgepodge coalition of regional parties is not a good enough opposition.

So I am a bit confused, ,
You just said without National Oppositions India will be ruined, but During Congress's time without national opposition , India did not get ruined, just their policies went unchallenged. That was not your original contention, you flat out said India will be ruined without Congress in opposition.

Local parties can make the rickety ladder of second front and call them selves united jambalaya or whatever to oppose the government on everything, (like the briliant take on LEMOA ),

And as you said there is no threat of sacking local governments due to major influx of local parties, And there can be rise of local parties like AAP, into a regional multi state parties, like Mulayam Sing Yadav will do well in the Congress Bastions, so will Owaisi etc. and like minded coalitions will be able to make a lot of noise without loosing votes (unlike Rahul baba).

 

[livingdead]

So I am a bit confused, ,
You just said without National Oppositions India will be ruined, but During Congress's time without national opposition , India did not get ruined, just their policies went unchallenged. That was not your original contention, you flat out said India will be ruined without Congress in opposition.

Local parties can make the rickety ladder of second front and call them selves united jambalaya or whatever to oppose the government on everything, (like the briliant take on LEMOA ),

And as you said there is no threat of sacking local governments due to major influx of local parties, And there can be rise of local parties like AAP, into a regional multi state parties, like Mulayam Sing Yadav will do well in the Congress Bastions, so will Owaisi etc. and like minded coalitions will be able to make a lot of noise without loosing votes (unlike Rahul baba).

lol you are nitpicking me for using the word 'ruined' when i elaborated the bad effect of not having an effective opposition(anywhere in the world, not specific to india).
the regional parties are good opposition at state level but the coalition of regional parties wont be able to mount coordinated attack on central govt.. also when current govt loses power, the effective opposition(if 3rd front type alternative is the way) will gain power and lead to more instability... the current way of two big coalitions centered with national parties is the best we can get.

 

[MilSpec]

lol you are nitpicking me for using the word 'ruined' when i elaborated the bad effect of not having an effective opposition(anywhere in the world, not specific to india)..

Off-course I am. The way I see it, with the policy paralysis of the last 30 years, It might be helpful for streamlined about a decade of fast paced policy reforms, and if there are gross violations of powers, do not underestimate, the power or the intelligence of the voters, governmet would be thrown outright.

the current way of two big coalitions centered with national parties is the best we can get.

minus [Gandhi Parivar+chamchas].

 

[livingdead]

Off-course I am. The way I see it, with the policy paralysis of the last 30 years, It might be helpful for streamlined about a decade of fast paced policy reforms, and if there are gross violations of powers, do not underestimate, the power or the intelligence of the voters, governmet would be thrown outright.


minus [Gandhi Parivar+chamchas].

sycophancy and nepotism is everywhere in every indian party to various degree... congress got it extreme... just like bjp got communalism and marxists got failed economic policies.. no party is perfect but together they make indian democracy work...

 

[MilSpec]

sycophancy and nepotism is everywhere in every indian party to various degree... congress got it extreme... just like bjp got communalism and marxists got failed economic policies.. no party is perfect but together they make indian democracy work...

Hey man, It's end of Congress, don't shoot the messenger.

 

[livingdead]

Hey man, It's end of Congress, don't shoot the messenger.

people tend to write quick obituary in politics... they did for bjp... for AAP.. for bsp.... voters think differently....
nobody thought congress will capture power after vajpayee... but they did...

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

So I am a bit confused, ,
You just said without National Oppositions India will be ruined, but During Congress's time without national opposition , India did not get ruined, just their policies went unchallenged. That was not your original contention, you flat out said India will be ruined without Congress in opposition.

Local parties can make the rickety ladder of second front and call them selves united jambalaya or whatever to oppose the government on everything, (like the briliant take on LEMOA ),

And as you said there is no threat of sacking local governments due to major influx of local parties, And there can be rise of local parties like AAP, into a regional multi state parties, like Mulayam Sing Yadav will do well in the Congress Bastions, so will Owaisi etc. and like minded coalitions will be able to make a lot of noise without loosing votes (unlike Rahul baba).

The local parties will never make an united opposition. You know why! Mulayam, Jaya, Mayawati, Nitish and now Mamata all have PM ambitions. And Jaya and Mayawati is too vocal in this interest. Their ego will never allow the 3rd front to work on. It has failed twice before.

I would like the Congress minus the Gandhis. The Congress under PVN was great indeed, and his work is even felt today. When Gandhis exit Congress, and with more freedom to state units, new self made leaders will emerge. Or so I hope.

 

[livingdead]

The local parties will never make an united opposition. You know why! Mulayam, Jaya, Mayawati, Nitish and now Mamata all have PM ambitions. And Jaya and Mayawati is too vocal in this interest. Their ego will never allow the 3rd front to work on. It has failed twice before.

I would like the Congress minus the Gandhis. The Congress under PVN was great indeed, and his work is even felt today. When Gandhis exit Congress, and with more freedom to state units, new self made leaders will emerge. Or so I hope.

the reason congress went crawling back to gandhis is because after PVN they could not find any leader that can attract congress voters.. PVN although a brilliant PM had no charisma.. and congress was failing to capture vote based on his success.

 

[Nilgiri]

thats a short sighted idea... india will be ruined if we dont have effective opposition... and there is no national opposition party currently that can grow to fill the role of congress.

Effective opposition necessarily means the complete destruction of the congress party as it currently stands.

A true development based party (and not a family based scam) but on centre or left-centre plank needs to arise.

 

[MilSpec]

the reason congress went crawling back to gandhis is because after PVN they could not find any leader that can attract congress voters.. PVN although a brilliant PM had no charisma.. and congress was failing to capture vote based on his success.

Would Congress apply the same Logic to Rahul Gandhi.... He is neither brilliant nor has Charisma?

 

[Levina]

Up to 55 per cent of India's 55,000 doctors graduate every year from private colleges, many of which charge illegal donations, or "capitation fees"; in Tamil Nadu, it now costs a medical student from such a college Rs 2 crore to get a MBBS degree, the Times Of India reported on August 26, 2016

Yes I attest to that.
Having some family investments in a hospital and a medical college, I know the way "donation" amounts are discussed at board meetings. Albeit the amount has reduced in last 2-3 years.
Other than the reasons mentioned by the articles there's one more reason why there's a shortage of doctors- brain drain.

 

[livingdead]

Would Congress apply the same Logic to Rahul Gandhi.... He is neither brilliant nor has Charisma?

gandhi family is always a crowd puller.. thats precisely why congress got them... he got tonnes of charisma... just not enough experience on his cv....

 

[Nilgiri]

gandhi family is always a crowd puller.. thats precisely why congress got them... he got tonnes of charisma... just not enough experience on his cv....

He has absolutely zilch charisma....but then what would you know about it seeing what you are