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India sex assault case spotlights powerful predators

These bloody so called powerful schmucks prying around with their d!cks in their hand should be and will be dealt with full force of the law... they brig a definite shame to Indian society...

But then again there are cases like this across the globe... from US presidents to India Corporate Honchos doing such acts against women.

RPT-India sex assault case spotlights powerful predators| Reuters

RPT-India sex assault case spotlights powerful predators
(This is a repeat of an item published on Thursday)

* Allegations against editor dominate Indian media

* Lawyers say harassment common among social elite

* Case seen as a chance to tackle sexual violence at work

By Nita Bhalla

NEW DELHI, Nov 28 (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - The man at the centre of a sexual assault scandal that has whipped India's media into a frenzy is no average Joe.

Tarun Tejpal is one of India's most powerful journalists, and accusations that he sexually assaulted a colleague have uncovered what lawyers say is an often buried truth - such violence is common in the highest echelons of society.

An investigation into Tejpal, who denies the accusations, has dominated headlines for eight days as news outlets follow every twist and turn. It comes days after similar accusations were made by an intern against a retired Supreme Court judge.

For Additional Solicitor General Indira Jaising, both cases show how hard it is for women to press complaints against colleagues in the workplace, particularly if they are powerful individuals not used to having their authority challenged.

Yet they also present authorities with a rare opportunity to demonstrate that no one is above the law - that sexual abuse, no matter who it involves, will be dealt with thoroughly and, if proven, properly punished.

"I think sexual harassment in the work place is pervasive in India, yet the culture of silence is huge," Jaising, a senior legal adviser to the Indian government, told the Thomson Reuters Foundation.

"That's why I think that these two cases, both that of the law intern and the Tehelka journalist, are highly significant. If we fail in addressing these two issues, we will have failed the nation."

The allegations against Tejpal, the 50-year-old founder and editor-in-chief of India's leading investigative magazine Tehelka, surfaced on the Internet last week when an email from a 23-year-old female journalist to her superior was leaked.

The woman, whose identity has not been revealed, accused Tejpal of assaulting her on two occasions in a hotel elevator.

The incidents in India's western resort state of Goa occurred during an event bringing together intellectuals, activists and celebrities, including Hollywood actor Robert De Niro.

The journalist did not press charges against Tejpal, but police launched an investigation based on media reports. Tejpal could be booked for outraging the modesty of a woman and rape.

Tejpal admitted in a leaked email to the magazine's management that an "unfortunate incident" had occurred between himself and the journalist, describing it as "a bad lapse of judgment". But in a more recent statement to a Delhi court he called what happened consensual.

CASES COME TO LIGHT

In recent months, the media have focused on alleged abuses within the upper echelons of Indian society.

The legal fraternity was shaken after a young lawyer said a retired Supreme Court judge had sexually harassed her in a Delhi hotel room last year while she was an intern.

About three months ago, a Hindu guru popularly known as Asaram Bapu was arrested for sexually molesting an ailing girl child on the pretext of exorcising evil spirits said to be inhabiting her body. Asaram calls the charges fabricated.

But it is the Tejpal case, above all, that has revived the intense debate about violence against women first triggered by the gang rape and murder of a woman on a Delhi bus 11 months ago.

That landmark case, in which the four culprits were sentenced to death, dispelled some of the stigma attached to discussing sex crimes in largely patriarchal India, and emboldened more women to come forward with their accounts.

Police in New Delhi, for example, believe a rise in rape reports is due partly to victims' greater willingness to complain.

There were 1,036 cases of rape reported in the capital this year by August 15, an increase of nearly 2-1/2 times from 433 cases in the corresponding period last year, police data show.

India's parliament passed a law to deal with sexual harassment in the workplace in February, although similar public and private sector guidelines had been in place for more than 16 years.

The new law covers women working in the informal sector and requires employers to set up internal complaints panels, although Jaising said the guidelines had been ignored.

"The two cases - one of the intern and the journalist - we notice a failure of the institutions," she said.

"Neither the Supreme Court of India nor Tehelka reported what clearly constituted cognisable offences to the police."

But the vast majority of victims are still too scared to speak up, say rights activists, despite the high-profile sexual abuse cases in the headlines.

"Women are not encouraged to come forward," said Rebecca Reichmann Tavares, India representative of UN Women, a grouping set up by the world body to encourage gender equality and empower women.

"They are encouraged to just try to forget it. No one wants to be confronted with the ugly reality and the men who perpetrate these crimes often have power not only over the women they abuse, but over the other people in the workplace."

SERIOUS ALLEGATIONS

In the case of the retired judge, Stella James, an intern at the time of the alleged incident last December, noted in a blog posting on Nov. 6 that it occurred, ironically, during huge protests over the gang rape case.

"I won't go into the gory details, but suffice it to say that long after I'd left the room, the memory remained, in fact, still remains, with me," James wrote.

She said she had not come forward earlier because she did not want to ruin the judge's reputation, but now felt "a responsibility to ensure that other young girls were not put in a similar situation."

Rebecca Mammen John, a prominent Supreme Court lawyer, said she had heard of many such cases.

"I've heard complaints made by junior lawyers against their seniors, I've heard serious allegations made against judges by interns," she said. "But I also see it in all the other environments where the powerful preside. It's fairly widespread." (Editing by Mike Collett-White and Clarence Fernandez)
 
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Dude i have a sat dish...and frankly even the "good "gurus" tht start preaching every morning on your tv stations makes me curious ... i mean how can people follow them .. when they are so fake...even more fake than "dr ghalib liaqat" of "geo network"... :lol:
I guess to an outsider, the BS that they normally preach is much more instantly recognizable than to a guy who's grown up getting normalised to such talk. I guess you know abt the famous "Jannat ki Hoor" video? The first time I saw that,I was flabbergasted! But I guess it wouldn't come across that way to you. Same goes when the Gurus decide to share their "Gyan":)
 
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Well, these things are the tip of ice berg. Today morning I heard news that one CEO of a reputed News Paper will also be facing the same charges. This is good. In many organisation it was going on. Now the Girls/Ladies who are facing these kind of situation will come out and expose these wolves!! And the persons whose name has not come up and they know that they have also done these kind of things may be falling at the feet of their victims right now and begging for forgiveness and these cases will not come up!!

In the same breath I also see the following fall outs arising out of this.

1. In the organisation where the top managers are of Tharki nature or violent or short tempered will hesitate to appoint women employee.

2. The good natured CEO/Managers will employ them but with less salary, because of large applicants.

What is your opinion on this?

@Guynextdoor2 @Indischer @jbgt90 @levina @Flamingo @AnnoyingOrange @Aamna14 @Alpha1
 
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In my opinion it isn't going to start a chain reaction in terms of how the issue is handled. Both India and Pakistan are traditional societies and issues like sexual harassment and rape are taboos that even well educated people would not feel comfortable in bringing an incident in their families to notice even if it means filing an FIR against the culprits. As far as the Tharki nature of the top managers in any organisation goes that i guess most male bosses are like that if not all. I guess knowing that the other side is weak and most definitely would remain silent, not just for herself but for her family as well, gives rise to such activities.
 
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Well, these things are the tip of ice berg. Today morning I heard news that one CEO of a reputed News Paper will also be facing the same charges. This is good. In many organisation it was going on. Now the Girls/Ladies who are facing these kind of situation will come out and expose these wolves!! And the persons whose name has not come up and they know that they have also done these kind of things may be falling at the feet of their victims right now and begging for forgiveness and these cases will not come up!!

Tip of the iceberg indeed!!
But I still dont think many women would come out because
1) The victim should produce the "proof",which is extremely difficult in such cases.
2) Our society still holds a traditional lens in its hands and judges the girl first.Thats like inviting more emotional trauma.
3) These men hold very powerful positions,its not easy to bring them down.The irony in Tarun Tejpal's case is Shoma chaudhary,a woman herself ,helped in suppressing facts and evidence against Tejpal.
Mmhhmm...the trend is changing but i still dont think thats even 75% of the victims would come out in the open.
Men must learn to respect women....there's no better solution than this.




thesolar65 said:
In the organisation where the top managers are of Tharki nature or violent or short tempered will hesitate to appoint women employee.
No they wont stop employing women....never.
But they might choose the more vulnerable ones....such gals are easy to predate and will remain quiet or leave the job under "extreme" circumstances.
I think a colleague might still be well behaved but the senior/bosses are the ones you've to be careful of.Accepting favors from them is like inviting troubles.

thesolar65 said:
2. The good natured CEO/Managers will employ them but with less salary, because of large applicants.

What is your opinion on this?

Salary....lol...True.
A guy gets paid more anyday.
Some of the good natured bosses may extend help but then out of fear of being misunderdstood ,might never do it.

As far as the Tharki nature of the top managers in any organisation goes that i guess most male bosses are like that if not all.

You have echoed my thoughts.
 
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Tip of the iceberg indeed!!
But I still dont think many women would come out because
1) The victim should show the "proof".
2) Our society still holds a traditional lens in its hands and judges the girl first.Thats like inviting more emotional trauma.
3) These men hold very powerful positions,its not easy to bring them down.The irony in Tarun Tejpal's case is Shoma chaudhary,a woman herself ,helped in suppressing facts and evidence against Tejpal.
Mmhhmm...the trend is changing but i still dont think thats even 75% of the victims would come out in the open.
Men must learn to respect women....there's no better solution than this.

I especially agree with the bold part. The fact is that ours is a patriarchal society and it might seem very "politically correct" to speak in favour of women rights but when you go out to work all those same men who are holding high positions in their respective fields make it virtually impossible for a woman to survive and i don't agree with the notion that its just because the woman is always weak. Therefore i can't imagine a single woman who doesn't have any male support be it from her father, husband or son, to survive in this society without being hunted down.

I agree with the solution as cliched as it sounds men like to objectify women and treat them as such those who try to refute this can't ignore such events taking place around us because of this very fact. Women have to be respected for just being themselves not just for being a mother or a sister or a wife but as a human being above all else.
 
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Therefore i can't imagine a single woman who doesn't have any male support be it her father, husband or son to survive in this society without being hunted down.
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I dont know how relevant this incident would be but still want to talk about it.
Once at a passport office in India,i caught a guy(in his40-50s) taking pics of another woman standing across the line.I remember shouting at him for he was clicking pics of the woman without her permission(perils of technology!!).
The guy was later taken to the passport officer by others.And a complaint was lodged against him.
But back home my dad didnt really support me.I understand he was worried about me and that he didnt want me to get into such issues few months before my marriage.But that incident did hit me hard.And it reinforces that male support back home is necessary.
 
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True.
I dont know how relevant this incident would be but still want to talk about it.
Once at a passport office in India,i caught a guy(in his40-50s) taking pics of another woman standing across the line.I remember shouting at him for he was clicking pics of the woman without her permission(perils of technology!!).
The guy was later taken to the passport officer by others.And a complaint was lodged against him.
But back home my dad didnt really support me.I understand he was worried about me and that he didnt want me to get into such issues few months before my marriage.But that incident did hit me hard.And it reinforces that male support back home is necessary.

Yeah i have seen a similar incident as well but again the point is those who want to stop such things in their own capacity get clamped down by their own families or people around them because they obviously fear for them or want to avoid the aftereffects.
 
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Predators !!! :o:

Enforce a ADIZ over India like the Chinese one.
 
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Well, these things are the tip of ice berg. Today morning I heard news that one CEO of a reputed News Paper will also be facing the same charges. This is good. In many organisation it was going on. Now the Girls/Ladies who are facing these kind of situation will come out and expose these wolves!! And the persons whose name has not come up and they know that they have also done these kind of things may be falling at the feet of their victims right now and begging for forgiveness and these cases will not come up!!

In the same breath I also see the following fall outs arising out of this.
1. In the organisation where the top managers are of Tharki nature or violent or short tempered will hesitate to appoint women employee.
2. The good natured CEO/Managers will employ them but with less salary, because of large applicants.
What is your opinion on this?

Will women using their sexuality or charm also face charges of attempting to rape Men ? (Rape can again be redefined)

Men use their power to get sex, women use their sexuality/beauty to get what they want. That is the way of the world. The nature of homo sapiens. Society can only do so much to tame human nature.

Any man who raises to the top are the Alpha male types and have a desire to dominate. That is what drives them. Sex is one of the most important driving force for men so Sexual propriety in work place is more of a men's issue than a female issue.

Most women learn to deal with men as do most men who learn to control their urges. Its the weak who become prey. Weak women who cannot handle men and weak men who cannot handle their urges. So laws to protect the weak is required, but laws that will protect both weak Women and Weak Men.

Our society is in flux when older paradigms of employment and social structure is changing. So such growing pains is natural. Society will evolve to handle this change too.
 
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Well, these things are the tip of ice berg. Today morning I heard news that one CEO of a reputed News Paper will also be facing the same charges. This is good. In many organisation it was going on. Now the Girls/Ladies who are facing these kind of situation will come out and expose these wolves!! And the persons whose name has not come up and they know that they have also done these kind of things may be falling at the feet of their victims right now and begging for forgiveness and these cases will not come up!!

In the same breath I also see the following fall outs arising out of this.

1. In the organisation where the top managers are of Tharki nature or violent or short tempered will hesitate to appoint women employee.

2. The good natured CEO/Managers will employ them but with less salary, because of large applicants.

What is your opinion on this?

@Guynextdoor2 @Indischer @jbgt90 @levina @Flamingo @AnnoyingOrange @Aamna14 @Alpha1
I don't think large organizations/ MNC will stop recruiting women and instead make their governance on these things tougher. Desi companies (like the Bhaskar types) may try to put in som curbs. But what's the point? Guys of the sort I pointed out continue to 'operate'. He headed a major MNC. I'm sure he had thse tendencies there so they must have done some coverup. He's probably got som 4 years before he kicks the bucket, he's gonna try his best for a 'last' hurrah. Poor MBA kids.
 
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