India selects EF, Rafale for MMRCA shortlist

[Machoman]

Awsome plane Congrats to all Indian....

 

[peep]

Where is Sparky?

nned

has been ba

 

[acetophenol]

on this special occasion,

party anyone?

 

[T90TankGuy]

i would rather have a blue

 

[Shaurya]

A very good decision... lets close this epic thread now....

 

[boris]

Would love to see Chogy sir and Gambit sirs views soon.

 

[AstanoshKhan]

Congratulations Indians - such a beautiful and sexy bird indeed.

 

[prabhakar]

Would love to see Chogy sir and Gambit sirs views soon.

you forget to add Mastan Khan

 

[Jade]

MMRCA News from Pakistan media

India selects France

 

[palash_kol]

Great news.....Now IN will be going the rafale way...

 

[Screambowl]

would rafale have thrust vectoring?

 

[laltaputu]

15 Factors for the Dassault Rafale wins MMRCA

1.IAF's love for Mirrage 2000 which is a very potent platform.

2.Infrastructure created for over 100 mirages in the 80's can be used now.

3.Upgrade of Mirrage 2000 to Mirrage 2000-5 MK2 standard which will be a similarity with Rafale

4. The 1 billion dollar invested in MICA missile.

5.Dassault Rafale was build from ground up tp be a omirole or multirole platform which the IAF wants

6.SPECTRA + AESA in 2012 (Typhoons AESA 2015) + AASM (proved in Libya)

7.Dual sit version useful for training and more useful for ground attack(twin seater of typhoon is only a trainer without any advantage)

8.Dassault Rafale is cheaper than typhoon.

9.French a reliable supplier not sanctioning india after 1998.

10.All components from one country no dealing with 4 countries.

11.Dassault Rafale has almost all french components while Typhoon has some american components susceptible to sanctions.

12.Full transfer of technology including source code.

13.Today in European crisis France can give us more political leverage than UK+Germany,italy and spain are in deep crisis.

14.Marine version present which makes it attractive for Indian Navy.

15.Hidden deals in STRATEGIC , ECONOMICAL and IINDIGENOUS DEVELOPMENT(KAVERI,MCA,SSN,SSBN etc) arena.

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Engine and payload comparison between Dassault Rafale and Eurofighter Typhoon
Dassault Rafale

Empty weight: 9,500 kg
Loaded weight: 14,016 kg
Max. takeoff weight: 24,500 kg
Powerplant: 2 × Snecma M88-2 turbofans
Dry thrust: 50.04 kN (11,250 lbf) each
Thrust with afterburner: 75.62 kN (17,000 lbf) each
Fuel capacity: 4,700 kg (10,000 lb) internal
Payload:9,500 kg
Thrust/weight: 1.10 (100% fuel, 2 EM A2A missile, 2 IR A2A missile)

Eurofighter Typhoon

Empty weight: 11,150 kg
Loaded weight: 16,000 kg
Max. takeoff weight: 23,500 kg
Powerplant: 2 × Eurojet EJ200 afterburning turbofan
Dry thrust: 60 kN (13,000 lbf) each
Thrust with afterburner: 89 kN (20,000 lbf) each
Fuel capacity: 4,500 kg (9,900 lb) internal
Thrust/weight: 1.15(clean)
Payload:7,500 kg

so you can see a TOW of Dassault Rafale 1.10 (100% fuel, 2 EM A2A missile, 2 IR A2A missile) is much better than 1.15 (clean ) of Eurofighter Typhoon

Dassault Rafale is

1.Lighter(so a 75.62 kN engine is enough) but have more Max. takeoff weight than Typhoon.
2.Carry more fuel.
3.Carry more payload
4. Dassault Rafale has a 30mm gun as to 27 mm of Eurofighter Typhoon.

 

[Executioner]

We welcome France. Now Sky is changing the color with charge of Indian tri color.

 

[Safriz]

As on 15th July 2012,india hasnt ordered Eurofighter....
This is picture i took at Farnborough Airshow this Friday and it shows the countries that have ordered for Typhoons..India isnt there.

 

[Abingdonboy]

^yes, thank God!!