India selects EF, Rafale for MMRCA shortlist

[Kinetic]

We are not too far......... Very soon we will rule

Yup, lets see. Above all how many years now they take to choose one from these two and how many years t takes to sign the deal and how many years it takes to induct first aircraft. lol

 

[Bhairava]

Does Rafale has CFT ?

 

[Contract Killer]

Yup, lets see. Above all how many years now they take to choose one from these two and how many years t takes to sign the deal and how many years it takes to induct first aircraft. lol

Lol..............................

 

[GORKHALI]

COMING SOON TO YOUR GATE

 

[jha]

EFT is closing in the poll..Say NO to FRENCHIES..

 

[SpArK]

Does Rafale has CFT ?

Yup sexy oness

 

[RazorMC]

No country reveal that but both aircrafts inducted in last 10 years have been developed keeping RCS reduction in mind. Rafale said to have some active radar cancellation system. But I doubt it.

The basics of cancellation process is simple enough; transmit signals to cancel out the radar waves. But for this to work, one needs to have knowledge of the exact frequency the enemy ground radars are transmitting. This is further complicated when the AESA comes into play. So the cancellation could work only for ground-based radars and then only with the necessary information.

Therefore the Rafale relies more on RCS reduction and even though both Rafale and EF claim to have the third lowest RCS after the F-22 and F-35 respectively, it is commonly believed that the Rafale beats the EF in this respect.

However the EF's overall performance is better esp. with more thrust and a higher ceiling than its counterpart. The EF has also entered service with more AFs than the Rafale.

The Rafale on the other hand has offered ToT and this is one area that India is definitely interested in.

 

[SpArK]

 

[tallboy123]

Guys anyone thought about this??
Rafale $84million
EF $108million

Pak FA less than $100 million....

Why should we go for EF which i more costlier than PAK-FA and a 4.5Gen aircraft....???
Rafale offers completer ToT,source code,Aesa radar ToT......Single manufacturer,where as EF has 4 partners...and EF has some spare problems
SO i think Rafale is best !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Kinetic]

The basics of cancellation process is simple enough; transmit signals to cancel out the radar waves. But for this to work, one needs to have knowledge of the exact frequency the enemy ground radars are transmitting. This is further complicated when the AESA comes into play. So the cancellation could work only for ground-based radars and then only with the necessary information.

Therefore the Rafale relies more on RCS reduction and even though both Rafale and EF claim to have the third lowest RCS after the F-22 and F-35 respectively, it is commonly believed that the Rafale beats the EF in this respect.

However the EF's overall performance is better esp. with more thrust and a higher ceiling than its counterpart. The EF has also entered service with more AFs than the Rafale.

The Rafale on the other hand has offered ToT and this is one area that India is definitely interested in.

Thanks, well explained. AESA with frequency agility or say agile beam will make it difficult but for other radars fixing the transmit signal will not be difficult. Also Spectra is excellent.

 

[conworldus]

You Indian Rafale fanboys keep in mind that Rafale had trouble shooting down obsolete Libyan craft in dog fights. The Eurofighter is technologically much superior. It is the politics that bogs it down a little bit.

 

[tallboy123]

The basics of cancellation process is simple enough; transmit signals to cancel out the radar waves. But for this to work, one needs to have knowledge of the exact frequency the enemy ground radars are transmitting. This is further complicated when the AESA comes into play. So the cancellation could work only for ground-based radars and then only with the necessary information.

Therefore the Rafale relies more on RCS reduction and even though both Rafale and EF claim to have the third lowest RCS after the F-22 and F-35 respectively, it is commonly believed that the Rafale beats the EF in this respect.

However the EF's overall performance is better esp. with more thrust and a higher ceiling than its counterpart. The EF has also entered service with more AFs than the Rafale.

The Rafale on the other hand has offered ToT and this is one area that India is definitely interested in.

IAF needs a good A2G platform,so service ceiling is not so important.... and EF is in service with many other AF becoz EF partners are UK,Gemrnay,Italy,Spain...so naturally they have it in their inventory...But rafale is designed and built by single company and single nation.....

 

[Hulk]

How many hard-point Rafale has, I can only see nine in the picture above.

 

[SpArK]

How many hard-point Rafale has, I can only see nine in the picture above.

RAFALE is fitted with 14 hard points (13 on the RAFALE M).

Advanced weapons

 

[Kinetic]

How many hard-point Rafale has, I can only see nine in the picture above.

I can count 12 here. +1 for pods.