India Seeing More Extremist Hindu Terror Than The Jihadi Variety

[Bhairava]

Many conservative Hindus still believes RSS,Bajrang Dal,Shiva Sena,ABVP,VHP are just Hindu Organizations.

Except perhaps Bajrang Dal, they still are.

These Organizations are directly against Non Hindus Especially Muslims and Christians(smallest minority and are Bullied for Missionary works). There is a Parallel Movement - Hindu rightwing movement in India which is still a minority and is concentrated on northern India IINM; thanks to the Secular nature of India and it's sane Hindus.

Oh please not this bullshyt again of sane Hindus and insane Hindus. I guess by your definition "sane" Hindus are those who go on with their life oblivious of their rights,their challenges, the discrimination they face and more or less lead a "zombie" life while the insane are those who demand their fair pound of flesh and an equitable treatment.

And if you think all these Hindu orgs are anti-minority can we Hindus assume all the minority orgs are anti-Hindu ?

And lets not triviliaze the issue of forced (or market) conversions. We are seeing the results in Central and North-East India. It poses a grave danger to the delicate balance of the Indian society.

Let me make it clear - the right wing is growing exponentially these days because of the leaders like Dogvijay who think minorities can do no wrong while the majority is the culprit everytime. If you dont want the rightwing gaining in power stop loonies like these misleading you in a perpetual fear of the majority "boogeyman" wanting to feast on the blood of the minority. If the Hindus had thought like that the minorities would not be here anyway.

RSS does flag march openly in Indian cities. Hate Speeches I personally heard from Temple grounds on Christians and Muslims...

Again BS. RSS never takes flag marches in cities firstly and secondly you would be appalled at the amount of venom spewed on Hinduism as a "satanic" pagan cult in the neo-evangelist congregations.Let alone being branded as "infidels" by Muslims

Can Hindus tolerate IUML(muslim league),Jamate Islami etc doing Flag March in cities? NO?

Oh we have tolerated them enough to allow them contest elections. More than that there is a party called PDP which is accused in the serial bomb blasts in Coimbatore. They are allowed. Another party is there called PFI - the one that chopped away a Professor's hand just because he mentioned something vaguely related to Muhammed. They were one of the leading political parties in Kerala local elections. Yet another party is AUDF in Assam that is comprised entirely of Bengali Muslim immigrants. They are allowed.So puhleeez.

 

[justanobserver]

T and Christians(smallest minority

Nope

Christian 2.34%
Sikh 1.87%
Buddhist 0.77%
Jain 0.41%

Religion in India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Infact, Christians are the second largest minority

 

[Bhairava]

Nope

Christian 2.34%
Sikh 1.87%
Buddhist 0.77%
Jain 0.41%

Religion in India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For them you Jains or Buddhists or Sikhs or Parsis don't matter because you guys can easily co-exist with the majority in harmony and with mutual respect. After all you can't have cases of "Minority" coexisting with the "Majority" because it will hurt the cause of portraying the Hindu majority as a blood thirsty monster out to suck the life out of the "minorities".

 

[takeiteasy]

No difference there exists convincing a RSS man or a Extremist from theocratic nations. The thing is the same. they will try to justify and dismiss the reality(I agree the minorities in general are safe. exceptions are gujarat and karnatak where minorities lives in FEAR) and will revolve around how bad christians are doing or muslims are pakistanis and similar propagandas . carry on! although we, the minorities of India have no such option except to vote for INC and Co. After 50 years, If India become Atheist, It'll be better. There is No Arsha Bharat or Akhand Bharat or Aryavarta. There are many ideologies similar to Talibanism indeed in rightwing Hindu parties. if not how Godhra carnage and the likes occur even if the wrongdoers initially are by muslim community? There is a open truth that the state government Agency supported targetting Muslims of that state!

it is easy to bullshit and dismiss off many realities in democratic India. For Secularism and Democracy such Rightwing Religious groups irrespective of minority or majority needs to be punished. But, IIRC, RSS were seen marching in Indian republic day parades somewhere 1950s or 60s(check utube). Hindu Nation if ever formed will not be different from a Islamic or Christian theocratic nation.

 

[RoYaL~GuJJaR]

While I usually disagree with much of what Jana writes 90% of the time she is right in this case.

And unfortunately you are 100% wrong this Time.....

 

[notsuperstitious]

No difference there exists convincing a RSS man or a Extremist from theocratic nations. The thing is the same. they will try to justify and dismiss the reality(I agree the minorities in general are safe. exceptions are gujarat and karnatak where minorities lives in FEAR) and will revolve around how bad christians are doing or muslims are pakistanis and similar propagandas . carry on! although we, the minorities of India have no such option except to vote for INC and Co. After 50 years, If India become Atheist, It'll be better. There is No Arsha Bharat or Akhand Bharat or Aryavarta. There are many ideologies similar to Talibanism indeed in rightwing Hindu parties. if not how Godhra carnage and the likes occur even if the wrongdoers initially are by muslim community? There is a open truth that the state government Agency supported targetting Muslims of that state!

it is easy to bullshit and dismiss off many realities in democratic India. For Secularism and Democracy such Rightwing Religious groups irrespective of minority or majority needs to be punished. But, IIRC, RSS were seen marching in Indian republic day parades somewhere 1950s or 60s(check utube). Hindu Nation if ever formed will not be different from a Islamic or Christian theocratic nation.

Nepal was a Hindu nation until recently.

Its shocking to know they were like Saudi or Iran or like that 200 year inquisition under pope in Goa!

BTW I don't want a Hindu India, I want an India where all are equal, and that includes no illogical bashing and tergetting of Hindus just because they are divided.

This diggi raja is pushing me to the right wing!

 

[Hindustani]

Many conservative Hindus still believes RSS,Bajrang Dal,Shiva Sena,ABVP,VHP are just Hindu Organizations.

Not true. RSS is more of a "Hindu missionary" type of charitable organization whereas Bajrang Dal, VHP, Shiv Sena etc are more right wing political parties that tend to be more focused on Hindu philosophy. However I agree, religion and state should be separated.

These Organizations are directly against Non Hindus Especially Muslims and Christians(smallest minority and are Bullied for Missionary works).

These organizations aren't against religions per se. They're mostly against some missionaries who do tend to convert people from poorer areas for necessities such as medicine, proper drinking water, food, shelter etc. I've never been against missionary work. I believe all faiths do contribute equally. But when it comes to extortion especially from villagers and rural folk, that simply is not agreeable.
Another stupid thing was these right wing political groups trying to "revert" the converted back to Hinduism. It's stupid because if you understand the basic philosophy of Hinduism, there is no formal way to convert to Hinduism nor is there a way to convert out of Hinduism. It's a way of life, but instead it's identified as an organized religion such as Islam, Christianity, Judaism and even Sikhism. (However Hinduism and Sikhism may have similar philosophies, Sikhism strictly teaches that there is only one God, whereas in Hinduism there are different sects majority who believe in God in many forms, those who believe strictly in one God, and those like me who are termed "Atheistic Hindus" who believe in the philosophy and science rather than the ideology of "God")

And Christianity isn't the smallest minority. Surprisingly it's actually higher than Sikhism! Then again majority of Sikhs are found in Punjab/Haryana, and large Christian populations can be found in Kerala, Goa, the eastern states of Tripura, Mizoram, Nagaland and Meghalaya.



Besides I thought topics on religion were banned?

 

[BelligerentPacifist]

"... More ... Terror Than The Jihadi Variety"
What! Hope has become terror?

 

[Zeeshan360]

Not true. RSS is more of a "Hindu missionary" type of charitable organization whereas Bajrang Dal, VHP, Shiv Sena etc are more right wing political parties that tend to be more focused on Hindu philosophy. However I agree, religion and state should be separated.

Lolz .
What do u mean by Shiv sena focused on Hindu philosophy .

Bashing and Killing South Indians and North Indians is an Hindu philosophy ??
I am not even considering Shiv sena's views abt Muslims and Pakistan .

 

[Hindustani]

Lolz .
What do u mean by Shiv sena focused on Hindu philosophy .

Bashing and Killing South Indians and North Indians is an Hindu philosophy ??
I am not even considering Shiv sena's views abt Muslims and Pakistan .

Never mind, I thought Shiv Sena took the name of Shiva the Deity in Hinduism. Which they actually took from Shivaji (Ruler of Maharashtra).

Majority of them are Hindus with other religious minorities. But I actually meant to leave them out for following Hindu philosophy as compared to VHP, Bajrang Dal etc who are more focused on Marathi nationalism. Loonies is more like it.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

digvijay singh ki maa ka bhosada!digvijay singh ki maa ki chuth!

Mind your language dude. He is your country man. Spoot of bharat maa and why you are abusing his mother for his comment. Grow up.

 

[majesticpankaj]

Mind your language dude. He is your country man. Spoot of bharat maa and why you are abusing his mother for his comment. Grow up.

he is of the same caliber as ur zardari... u can understand it now... but i do not support the open abusing.. but none the less he deserves that

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

he is of the same caliber as ur zardari... u can understand it now... but i do not support the open abusing.. but none the less he deserves that

You are also strange even if we suppose a politician is corrupt then why we should abuse his mother for his corruption. You can condemn someone in decent manner : )

 

[gubbi]

(I agree the minorities in general are safe. exceptions are gujarat and karnatak where minorities lives in FEAR) and will revolve around how bad christians are doing or muslims are pakistanis and similar propagandas .

BS. Are you kidding me? Karnataka?

I am from that state and I have NEVER ever seen any minorities complain about anything!

 

[majesticpankaj]

You are also strange even if we suppose a politician is corrupt then why we should abuse his mother for his corruption. You can condemn someone in decent manner : )

U got it wrong dude.. I am also against abusing... as u mentioned his nationality I was mentioning his character... He is a sycophant dog not an Indian in any sense..