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India, Saudi Arabia to speed up kingdom’s $100-billion investment plan

CPEC has left Pakistan with a debt bomb that cannot be defused or made safe for 2-3 decades.2-3 decades of abject penury.
The promoters of the US hype are the ones with the hard cash and as long as that investment ( Notice "investment" and not loans ) takes place we, Indians, will be content.
Building infrastructure loses you money in the short term but in the long term its well worth it. And unlike the spice corridor, Pakistan actually borders China, the world's second largest economy. Speaking of China, they have got $3 trillion worth of reserves (the most in the world) and even a country like the U.S owes them debt. BTW India's Debt to GDP ratio is almost the same as Pakistan's. So this debt argument and labelling Pakistan falling into trap is complete bull sh!t. China needs Pakistan and Pakistan needs China. India is the loser facing a two front war.
 
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Stop trying to pretend I am talking about Chinese debt bomb. You know clearly its the stupid CPEC con and BRI grift victims who are going to spend decades desperately trying to unwind the foolish sovereign guarenteed debts they owe to the local Chinese Mafia Don Xi.
How much trade do you do with China ??????
We trade with Gulf to the tune of hundreds of billions and a lesser amount with the EU.
This route just reduces OUR transaction costs and speeds it up by 40%
 
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Stop trying to pretend I am talking about Chinese debt bomb. You know clearly its the stupid CPEC con and BRI grift victims who are going to spend decades desperately trying to unwind the foolish sovereign guarenteed debts they owe to the local Chinese Mafia Don Xi.
How much trade do you do with China ??????
We trade with Gulf to the tune of hundreds of billions and a lesser amount with the EU.
This route just reduces OUR transaction costs and speeds it up by 40%
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Unfortunately both KSA and Turkiye are flirting with the Indians.

Pakistan needs to wake up and draw our red lines.
Turks know what loyalty is, Arabs don't. They may call India their bigger trade partner which is fine but they ain't backing away from supporting Pakistan on Kashmir dispute and stopping sale of weapons


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Building infrastructure loses you money in the short term but in the long term its well worth it. And unlike the spice corridor, Pakistan actually borders China, the world's second largest economy. Speaking of China, they have got $3 trillion worth of reserves (the most in the world) and even a country like the U.S owes them debt. BTW India's Debt to GDP ratio is almost the same as Pakistan's. So this debt argument and labelling Pakistan falling into trap is complete bull sh!t. China needs Pakistan and Pakistan needs China. India is the loser facing a two front war.
How can an average Pakistani survive your spiraling inflation? Your currency has lost 1/3rd value in just 2 years.
 
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How can an average Pakistani survive your spiraling inflation? Your currency has lost 1/3rd value in just 2 years.
Definitely not something to be happy about. But on the positive side of things, it can be used as a benefit. Pakistan has cheap labour costs which it can use to boost exports. I see good things within 2-3 years. I don't remember the country this serious and united on the issue of economy and having the care taker government backed by the military will mean right decisions will be made instead of popular decisions. There is no mercy for institutions involved in smuggling currency, wheat and sugar etc and individuals who are strong opponents of privatization.
 
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India, Saudi to link power grids using subsea cable
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NEW DELHI :India and Saudi Arabia agreed to link their power grids, underscoring a deepening energy alliance that could significantly boost the reliability of power grids in both countries and foster economic development.

The agreement on linking power grids follows another more expansive infrastructure connectivity project plan to develop an India-Middle East-Europe economic corridor. The project, announced on 9 September during the G20 summit, envisages a rail and shipping corridor connecting India, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Saudi Arabia, the European Union, France, Italy, Germany and the US.

The agreement was signed on Sunday by the Union minister for new and renewable energy, R.K. Singh, and the minister of energy for the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Abdulaziz bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, a government statement said.

Mint first reported on 25 April that India plans to interconnect the national power grids of the two countries through a subsea cable.

India has been exploring linking its power grid with those of Saudi Arabia and the UAE through subsea cables from its west coast and with the power grid of Singapore from the east coast. By sharing power resources across regions, countries can reduce the need for costly renewable energy storage solutions and improve the reliability of their power grids. India’s pursuit of grid interconnectivity could also prove critical to its long-term economic and energy security goals. India is pursuing the One Sun One World One Grid (OSOWOG) plan, which aims to connect countries through a global power grid.

A task force set up by the power ministry has examined the feasibility of interconnecting the regional grids of Southeast Asia, South Asia, the Middle East, Africa, and Europe for sharing renewable energy.

According to the agreement signed on Monday, apart from grid interconnectivity, India and Saudi Arabia will cooperate in the areas of renewable energy, energy efficiency, hydrogen, electricity, petroleum, natural gas, strategic petroleum reserves and energy security.

The pact also aims to encourage bilateral investment in renewable energy, electricity, hydrogen and storage, along with investments in conventional fuels like oil and gas. Saudi Arabia has traditionally been a major supplier of oil to India.

However, India has been actively exploring strategies to diversify its energy resources because of the significant turbulence in the global energy markets following Russia’s incursion into Ukraine.

The India-Saudi pact also involves cooperation between the nations to combat climate change through the development of technologies, including carbon capture, utilization and storage, and circular economy. It would also promote digital transformation, innovation, cybersecurity and artificial intelligence in the field of energy, along with help working on developing qualitative partnerships between the two countries to localize materials, products and services related to all sectors of energy, supply chains and its technologies, the statement said.
 
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Saudi Arabia could open sovereign wealth fund office in India's GIFT City

NEW DELHI, Sept 11 (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia could set up an office of its sovereign wealth fund in India's Gujarat International Finance Tec-City (GIFT), its investment minister said in New Delhi on Monday.

GIFT City is India's tax-neutral financial services centre and a key project for Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, with the aim of rivalling financial services centres in Dubai and Hong Kong.

"I will match your offer and commit today to open an office," Saudi Investment Minister Khalid Al Falih said after India's trade minister Piyush Goyal invited Saudi Arabia to set up an office of its sovereign wealth fund, Public Investment Fund (PIF), in GIFT City.

Falih was in Delhi as part of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman's state visit.

Goyal also said he would suggest that his ministry starts an investment promotion office in Riyadh.

During the Crown Prince's visit India and Saudi Arabia signed 50 initial pacts in various fields and agreed to form a joint task force for $100 billion in Saudi investment in India, originally announced by the Crown Prince in 2019.

There is no timeline for the $100 billion investment in India but Falih said on Monday that projects previously announced are "still possible". Half of the planned $100 billion is earmarked for a refinery project along India's western coast, an Indian foreign ministry official said.

Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates in 2018 joined an Indian consortium to set up a 1.2 million barrels-per-day coastal refinery and petrochemical plant in western Maharashtra, seeking a reliable outlet for their oil.

Falih said India has to resolve issues including land acquisition for the planned refinery project.

He said Saudi Arabia is looking to invest in sectors including oil, gas, petrochemicals, new energy, technology, manufacturing and defence.

Saudi oil giant Saudi Aramco (2222.SE) is looking to convert 4 million barrels per day of oil into advanced green materials through local and global projects and India could be part of that, Falih said.
This is the real deal. Indian startups are just gearing up.
 
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BTW India's Debt to GDP ratio is almost the same as Pakistan's.
Debt to GDP ratios of the US and Japan are 122 % and 260% respectively, which are worse than India. Are they worse off than India? No, their ability to repay the debt is what matters. That's the issue, GDP doesn't make currency. India's ability to repay is way better than Pakistan's, so lenders are gonna lend India money at low interest rates while they going to lend to Pakistan at a higher interest rate and with tough conditions. India also takes billions of dollars in loans, but nobody talks about it because we take to save current expenses while you take to survive today.
 
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Interesting to see how SA and other Middle Eastern nations shift to post oil world. A lot of investments are going to shifting industry to more tourist and business based.

One thing to note is agriculture. Most of these nations don’t have a large amount of agricultural land so tapping that market in the long run would be great.
 
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Debt to GDP ratios of the US and Japan are 122 % and 260% respectively, which are worse than India. Are they worse off than India? No, their ability to repay the debt is what matters. That's the issue, GDP doesn't make currency. India's ability to repay is way better than Pakistan's, so lenders are gonna lend India money at low interest rates while they going to lend to Pakistan at a higher interest rate and with tough conditions. India also takes billions of dollars in loans, but nobody talks about it because we take to save current expenses while you take to survive today.
Debt to GDP ratio comparisons are not meaningful across countries with structural differences. Most of US and Japanese debt is denominated in their own currencies which both have reserve currency status. The US can pay off all its debt in a second by printing a 33 trillion dollars bill.

For countries like India and Pakistan what is relevant is external debt ( India is able to find investors for rupee denominated debt and Pakistan is not) and the ability to service it. India's external debt is slightly less than her foreign exchange reserves, whereas Pakistan's external debt is more than 10 times reserve. India has a much better credit rating and can refinance foreign debt cheaper. Pakistan will struggle to borrow at any rate from commercial lenders, especially if it walks out of the IMF deal.
 
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