India’s Quiet Counter-China Strategy

[Vinod2070]

No we have mutual influence as well. We are your largest trading partner.

That doesn't translate into strategic leverage over India.

 

[Vinod2070]

No, the Indian defeat in 1962 was rooted in a failure of political leadership. I'm not sure India has proven that it's political leadership has gotten it's act together.

Yes, 1962 was ineptitude of the government. There have been several incidents after that and the results were not the same.

That does show we are quick learners.

 

[tanlixiang28776]

Yes, 1962 was ineptitude of the government. There have been several incidents after that and the results were not the same.

That does show we are quick learners.

Really do you need me to correct you again on those little incidents?

 

[Vinod2070]

Fine until we have different interests. Happy?

It's as deep or as shallow as your hate for us.

See, I believe your colonel OOE on the WAB. "China will fight India to the last Pakistani".

Pakistan has made itself a willing tool and you will use the tool to the hilt. Can't really fault that logic.

But you confirmed what is well known. It is more about India than about any common interests. That can change. Quickly.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

See, I believe your colonel OOE on the WAB. "China will fight India to the last Pakistani".

Pakistan has made itself a willing tool and you will use the tool to the hilt. Can't really fault that logic.

But you confirmed what is well known. It is more about India than about any common interests. That can change. Quickly.

I think you're missing the fact that Pakistan can act as a strategic artery, giving us access to the Persian Gulf via Gwadar Port (and the KKH), as well as oil pipelines from the Middle East. Basically, a method to bypass the Malacca straits.

 

[Vinod2070]

Really do you need me to correct you again on those little incidents?

Frankly these are not well publicized in India. The military people (like our Brigadier Ray) have hinted about them. Only a few are relatively well known.

But yes, the response was pretty good from India and the Chinese know it is not 1962 anymore.

 

[CardSharp]

See, I believe your colonel OOE on the WAB. "China will fight India to the last Pakistani".

Pakistan has made itself a willing tool and you will use the tool to the hilt. Can't really fault that logic.

But you confirmed what is well known. It is more about India than about any common interests. That can change. Quickly.

Hmmm while I find OOE informative, he has no more insight into China than any other Canadian forces officer. He is not ours.

 

[Vinod2070]

I think you're missing the fact that Pakistan can act as a strategic artery, giving us access to the Persian Gulf via Gwadar Port (and the KKH), as well as oil pipelines from the Middle East. Basically, a method to bypass the Malacca straits.

I know that.

Good luck with that. Tell me when it materializes.

 

[Vinod2070]

Hmmm while I respect OOE and his opinions, he represents the views of a Canadian forces officer.

He is ethnic Chinese. Only he has no compulsions to act politically correct on a Pakistani forum.

 

[CardSharp]

He is ethnic Chinese.

And? What of it?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

I know that.

Good luck with that. Tell me when it materializes.

Thanks.

The bottom line is, even if India never existed, China and Pakistan would still be partners. China would still be trying to get Gwadar port, in order to bypass the Malacca straits. China would still need an important regional player, in the geopolitical nexus between the Middle East, Central Asia, and South Asia.

Just look at a map, cover India with your hand, and you will see what I mean.

 

[Obambam]

Yes, 1962 was ineptitude of the government. There have been several incidents after that and the results were not the same.

That does show we are quick learners.

Quick learner is good. Corrupt government is bad.

 

[CardSharp]

I know that.

Good luck with that. Tell me when it materializes.

China takes the long view. No need to fret on our behalf.

 

[cross1993]

Indians should not use common sense to judge China govt.

1# Chinese govt will not care about Media Evaluation, Media can not affect it.
2# Chinese govt do not worry about military aggression, Military threat to no effect.

So if you want Chinese govt to listen to your request, you need some bargaining-chip to allow it to sit to the negotiating table. And trade relationship is the most effective bargaining-chip. Now Chinese govt is most concerned about trade.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Fair enough.

If a future war is inevitable (I hope it isn't), then we might as well have a "soft enemy". We went head-to-head against the USA in the 1951 Korean war, and the Soviet Union in the Sino-Soviet split. Fighting back these superpowers was great for morale, but tiring.

Better to have someone soft.

President Roosevelt said - Speak Softly, Carry a Big Stick.

Actually it is an African saying.