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India`s Fake War in the Himalayas? By INDIAN CADET 10/24/2005

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India`s Fake War in the Himalayas? By INDIAN CADET 10/24/2005 :P
A stunning confessions by two Indian soldiers that they helped stage fake encounters with Pakistani troops on Siachen, often called the world's highest, coldest and costliest battlefield, has renewed calls for demilitarizing the Himalayan glacier.
On Monday, rifleman Shyam Bahadur Thapa told a military court that he not only demolished a fake "enemy-held" objective with a rocket launcher in August 2003 but also acted the part of a Pakistani soldier killed in the action as video cameras whirred away.
Thapa said he did this at the behest of a company commander, Maj. Surinder Singh. "He asked me to remove my jacket and cap and lie there (near the demolished objective)."
Thapa is one of four soldiers who have testified before a court of inquiry to say that they had been forced by their officers, including a colonel and two majors, to participate in fake military encounters on Siachen in August and September 2003.
"Obviously this scandal involves the top brass, perhaps even generals -- there is no use victimizing middle-ranking officers and ordinary soldiers," a well-known writer on military affairs, N. Kunju, told IPS in an interview.
Kunju,
a former army man himself, is among analysts who believe that the whole Siachen conflict, now running into its 20th year, is actually a huge fraud being played on the Indian people by successive governments
India spends a million U.S. dollars a day air-maintaining troops on Siachen, a desolate glacier in disputed Kashmir that falls on the tri-junction between India, Pakistan and China and overlooks the Karakorum highway.
The origins of the conflict lie in the drawing up of the Line of Control or ceasefire line in 1949, following a brief but inconclusive war between India and Pakistan over what was until then the independent princely state of Jammu and Kashmir.
The South Asian neighbors have effectively carved up Kashmir, the focus of much of their decades-long animosity. Pakistan controls the Northern Areas and what it calls "Azad (free) Kashmir" and India retains the remaining two-thirds of the territory, which include Jammu, Ladakh and the Srinagar valley.
In 1949, no one thought of Siachen because of its sheer remoteness and inaccessibility. But in a pre-emptive move in 1984, the Indian army airlifted troops onto the glacier in a bid to gain the commanding heights it affords at around 22,000 feet.
There is reason to believe that Pakistan's 1999 action crossing the Line of Control and seizure of the heights of Kargil, further down on the Line of Control in Kashmir, was carried out in retaliation for Siachen, which it values for the strategic link to Islamabad's "all-weather" ally, China.
The soldiers' confessions this week will only worsen public perceptions of what the real costs are of maintaining Siachen, not only to the exchequer but also in human terms, said Kunju.
Indeed, the potential for the whole conflict over Kashmir to siphon away money and resources that could have better gone into development, besides causing avoidable human tragedies, is currently under discussion in India's Parliament under a new Congress Party-led government.
The BJP-led government lost the April and May elections after six years of rule, a period that saw peace overtures alternating with the undeclared conflict in Kargil in 1999 with Pakistan, and the costly mobilization of close to a million troops for a full-scale war in 2002.
Soon after the Kargil war, George Fernandes, who held the defense portfolio in the BJP government
was indicted by the Controller of Audits and Accounts for the importation of aluminum caskets at $2,500 apiece to carry back the bodies of dead soldiers
This controversy led to the opposition accusing politicians of lining their pockets from the conflict.
Singh's trip to Kashmir, the first since he took over as prime minister in May following the electoral victory of his Congress Party, was carefully planned.
Congress also backs the provincial government in Kashmir and this has made things easier.
In Srinagar, Singh unveiled a $5.5 billion "economic revival plan" and said at least 24,000 jobs would be created in Kashmir
The Prime Minister also announced at a public rally that his government was willing to sit down and talk unconditionally to anyone, including militant groups. But despite the upbeat tone, the visit skirted disaster.:sick:
 
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Ladies And Gents: The latest in Indian Tactical Strategy.... THEATRICS:partay:

then again, bollywood is no newbe at making high budget flop prpoganda films:disagree:
 
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Ladies And Gents: The latest in Indian Tactical Strategy.... THEATRICS:partay:

then again, bollywood is no newbe at making high budget flop prpoganda films:disagree:

Hey God of War for the lighter part i remmebr few months back there was an advertisment on Indian TV channel where they were asking indian youth to join Army what was theatice in the commercial was that it had the same indian masala i mean girls dancing arround persuign young men to join indian army :D

they persuaded through telling them how much benefits and luxuries they will have by joining army :)
 
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2005 article, get a life ladies and gentlemen.
 
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Trying to make the himalayalas out of a mole hill, i concur with bull, Jana we have alreADy accepted about the bad apples
 
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it was just a mere reality which some indians ignore..the indian allegation are sometimes based on actions like these...destroying their own bunkers..thakrey won again..the same think tank is there to date and i think the people to replace hem are the same as well..fake documentries made by foreign journalists shown whatever the indian army shows them..
 
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it was just a mere reality which some indians ignore..the indian allegation are sometimes based on actions like these...destroying their own bunkers..thakrey won again..the same think tank is there to date and i think the people to replace hem are the same as well..fake documentries made by foreign journalists shown whatever the indian army shows them..

yawn yawn!!!! you had to qoute an indian newspaper...go figure
 
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What was that for?

I dont understand the hypocrisy, when everyone says that Indians dont know the odd- bad things that happens in Kashmir,to prove they have to qoute Indian newspapers...I find it wierd.
 
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I dont understand the hypocrisy, when everyone says that Indians dont know the odd- bad things that happens in Kashmir,to prove they have to qoute Indian newspapers...I find it wierd.
We are bad, evil, cunning, evil, miserly, evil yindoo kaffr Indians after all!!

/sarc
 
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I dont understand the hypocrisy, when everyone says that Indians dont know the odd- bad things that happens in Kashmir,to prove they have to qoute Indian newspapers...I find it wierd.

Just because it is written in the paper doesn't mean most Indians have read it..........Or believe it if they have read it.
 
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I dont understand the hypocrisy, when everyone says that Indians dont know the odd- bad things that happens in Kashmir,to prove they have to qoute Indian newspapers...I find it wierd.

SIR no one is saying you dont know anything...but for the part of kashmir (indian atrocities of kashmir ...women...and much more...and things like pakistani are liars...terrorists...anti indian...anti hinduism...
are all propoganda of RAW and indian media (zee tv and bollywood). how they show muslim women marrying hindu men and they show all underworld people and all criminals as muslims...it may be true but it is not that there are no hindus in the underworld and etc...:army:
 
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