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India’s Aircraft Carrier Challenge

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By James R. Holmes

October 8, 2012


Strategist Edward Luttwak likens warships to “black boxes” during peacetime strategic competition. Without peering inside, outsiders have a hard time judging how well designed, maintained, and operated a ship is. Combat clarifies a ship’s fitness by the most stringent standard possible, but battles are infrequent. The U.S. Navy’s last major fleet engagement, for example, took place at Leyte Gulf in October 1944. Absent that severe test, observers are forced to infer the state of things within the black box. Yet navies—like all big institutions—have defensive instincts. Few naval officials relish advertising ships’ or crews’ shortcomings. Such disclosures tarnish an institution’s reputation with domestic constituents and foreign audiences. In short, it’s hard for outsiders to take the measure of a navy in peacetime. A heavy guesswork quotient prevails.

Dramatic events—fires, groundings, collisions at sea, engineering accidents—offer a rare glimpse inside the box. Seldom is the view encouraging. Exhibit A: engineering travails on board the Soviet-built aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov. The flattop has undergone a major conversion since 2004, when New Delhi and Moscow inked a deal for the refit. It will join the Indian Navy as INS Vikramaditya. After repeated postponements, the transfer was slated for this December. Last month, however, the ship encountered major engineering problems during sea trials in the White Sea. The capacity to operate at full power for a specified period of time constitutes a key performance benchmark for propulsion plants. While details remain sketchy, the Gorshkov’s crew evidently had to take seven of eight boilers offline when they overheated during a full-power run. It appears the schedule will slipyet again, until—probably—sometime next year.

How long repairs will consume remains a matter of dispute. At fault was the insulation used to protect the boiler casings from the flames that burn within to generate steam. Indian officials rejected Russian proposals to use asbestos, which fell out of favor long ago owing to health hazards. Instead the boilers were lined with firebrick, long the standard in conventional steam-propelled U.S. warships. The bricks were evidently unable to withstand the heat generated when operating the boilers at full power. Accounts of the fault and likely repair timelines conflict. Some sources within the Russian shipbuilding industry indicated that the boilers will have to be replaced entirely—a major enterprise that would require cutting open the hull. If so, the ship’s delivery date will fall back another year or more.

Such estimates seem unduly dour. Unless the engineering watch team was asleep at the switch, they reduced the firing rate or shut down the boilers altogether when the problem appeared, and long before the heat could compromise the machinery’s structural integrity. In all likelihood, consequently, the shipyard can install new insulation without removing these massive pieces of gear. Betting against fresh setbacks to the Indian carrier program is typically a losing proposition. Still, I place my bet with the Russian boiler-design official who foretold a much shorter delay.

Who pays? is the other lingering question. The controversy took a comic turn late last month when Russian shipyard officials blamed imported, low-grade Chinese firebrick for the Gorshkov’s troubles. No less a personage than Defense Minister Yan Yujun rebutted the charges, maintaining that Chinese firms have “never” exported firebrick suitable for naval propulsion.

Engineering woes, questions about battle efficiency, diplomatic flare-ups—there’s clearly a reason navies like to keep their problems within black boxes. One hopes the Indian Navy affords this one close scrutiny as it nears service.

India's Aircraft Carrier Challenge - The Naval Diplomat
 
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India's problem on aircraft front are quite minor compared to the Chinese who are yet to learn how to operate an aircraft carrier and by abandoning the plans of building another aircraft it looks Chinese have thrown in towel even before getting started.
 
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India's problem on aircraft front are quite minor compared to the Chinese who are yet to learn how to operate an aircraft carrier and by abandoning the plans of building another aircraft it looks Chinese have thrown in towel even before getting started.


Our dice are already rolling, how about yours. We'll race you to the Malacca, want to bet?

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Why all the different lights. It look like I'm looking at a picture of Las Vegas strip.


It's probably they are still on a celebratory mood, but I think, it won't be long before they are ready to get down on the real business-go out to the sea.

(Actually I didn't want to derail this thread until the gentleman above invited us in with his comment) :wave:
 
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No need to post Liaoning every other time in India defence, even alliens know China has a carrier. Any way, nice pictures.
 
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India's problem on aircraft front are quite minor compared to the Chinese who are yet to learn how to operate an aircraft carrier and by abandoning the plans of building another aircraft it looks Chinese have thrown in towel even before getting started.
Never turst the China Defence spokeman said, he didnt really mean it. You might stay longer in this forum to get what Chinese are thinking. Get focused on your own carriers instead of hoping this is the last carrier China might have.
 
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Never turst the China Defence spokeman said, he didnt really mean it. You might stay longer in this forum to get what Chinese are thinking. Get focused on your own carriers instead of hoping this is the last carrier China might have.
At least I am expecting that China is already on its way to develop its own using modular approach with which you can build faster and with secrecy.

Just wondering about the tonnage, and whether it will have CATOBAR or EMALS ?

Any news on Aircraft lading exercise on your ACC. Any video released ? Waiting for it.
 
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At least I am expecting that China is already on its way to develop its own using modular approach with which you can build faster and with secrecy.

Just wondering about the tonnage, and whether it will have CATOBAR or EMALS ?

Any news on Aircraft lading exercise on your ACC. Any video released ? Waiting for it.
I think first 2 will be STOBAR with Modular structure. We shall wait till 2020 to see EMALS on our carrier. As to CATOBAR, we may straightly skip it.
 
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Never turst the China Defence spokeman said, he didnt really mean it. You might stay longer in this forum to get what Chinese are thinking. Get focused on your own carriers instead of hoping this is the last carrier China might have.

:) Like what? - an alternative example would be nice about something the Chinese defense spokesman has said and which he really didn't mean.

Our dice are already rolling, how about yours. We'll race you to the Malacca, want to bet?

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What's with all the funky lightings - is it party time for the PLAN?
 
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