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when pigs fly that is!
I hope that pigs don't fly when Putin visits India next month.
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when pigs fly that is!
I hope that pigs don't fly when Putin visits India next month.
You should go back and read my post. I was never unhappy with either SU-30MKI or RAFALEs or for that matter MIG-29s. In fact I strongly support of those. I was merely pointing to the fact that Russia were frustrated by India Choosing RAFALEs while not making any progress on PAK-FA/FGFA while on the other hand IAF was unhappy for Indian leadership forcing them to choose MIG-29s and SU-30s.
Don't try to attribute frustrations of Russia and IAF to me.
We don't have access to any of their technology and have no say in their development.
Can't assemble them in India.
2 of them are old tech and their latest one is a white elephant.
C-17s are not a replacement of IL-76.
The IL-76 is very unique in its abilities and has specific roles.
These just complement each other.
rafale deal had hit you too hard buddy...take a nap!!Seems like India & Russia are going for a slow and painful divorce.
How does this impact the availability of the existing Russia equipment and future procurements. What are alternatives?
Current Equipment
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T-90s
T-72s
SU-30MKI
MIG-29s
IL-78s
IL-76s
MI-17s
Tu-142M
Nuclear sub (leased)
Brahmos
S-300s
Proposed Equipment
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Ka-226
Super Sukhoi Upgrade
FGFA
S-400s
Brahmos-M
MTA (Dead)
Yassen Sub
Strategic Fallout
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Loose Veto at UN
Loose support for NSG
Increased Russia-Pakistan defense ties
Btw, i noticed your signature text.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Manasarovar
Lake Manasarovar is near the source of theSutlej, which is the easternmost large tributary of the Sindhu. Nearby are the sources of the Brahmaputra River, the Indus River, and the Ghaghara, an important tributary of the Ganges.
Imagine if China dams this lake or modifies it in whatever ways as she please lol
No wonder u r willing to trade aksai chin for it.
@dadeechi @punit
My two paise worth (let me look for them ... have a few lying still as collection)
Mig-29s came for checking F-16s. It was, at the time, the best aircraft available in Air Superiority role. Offer of Assembly line came along with it. IAF was quite happy with the platform
Mirage-2000 came for our nuclear delivery on the reports of Chinese having lent a couple of nukes to Pakistan as 'insurance', also with offer of assembly line. That was the time wherein Pakistan still was not in a position to have fielded its own nuclear device although it trained its officer cadre for NBC contingencies. They had a known and established chemical warfare capability though.
Now, contention came where IAF was asked to choose between the two for one assembly line and the politics thereof.
Google a bit, lot of things on that around.
Beyond this .... I am speechless. I need air support
@Abingdonboy @PARIKRAMA
Im baffled by why there are ppl who thinks that China would had knowingly assisted Pakistan in any way with her nuclear program(including lending a couple of 'nukes').
It makes no sense for China to do that anyway. Hypotehtically, Pakistan might be a friend now but she may not be in the future. Same goes for North Korea.
No1 would share such a strategic technology with others.
Im baffled by why there are ppl who thinks that China would had knowingly assisted Pakistan in any way with her nuclear program(including lending a couple of 'nukes').
It makes no sense for China to do that anyway. Hypotehtically, Pakistan might be a friend now but she may not be in the future. hell she might even be reunited with India if religious differences could be settled and at that point of time, China would have had a much stronger South Asia to contend with. Same goes for North Korea.
No1 would share such a strategic technology with others.
Lets just hope pigs dont fly from across the border!
do you understand .. what u are trying to say. take rest and who knows there may still be chance for F 16/18 !!You should go back and read my post. I was never unhappy with either SU-30MKI or RAFALEs or for that matter MIG-29s. In fact I strongly support of those. I was merely pointing to the fact that Russia were frustrated by India Choosing RAFALEs while not making any progress on PAK-FA/FGFA while on the other hand IAF was unhappy for Indian leadership forcing them to choose MIG-29s and SU-30s.
Don't try to attribute frustrations of Russia and IAF to me.
Please Explain the bold part too thanks
if russians are getting paid there is no reason why they won't supply sparesEven without any declarations whatsoever you guys still find it hard to secure supplies
Not just getting paid, but also getting paid by how much. The latter part is subject to the vicissitudes of geopolitical environment at that time.if russians are getting paid there is no reason why they won't supply spares