India retaliates

[kbd-raaf]

@kbd-raaf Your Face! Goddamnit!

:3

 

[SrNair]

India is putting alot of pressure

We survived the hostility of USA all the early 5 decades .Even if the relation with USA damaged ,we dont have much problem.

 

[Indo-guy]

Even in your wildest hallucinations, don't even dream of touching gay Americans.

Hollywood will smack you so hard, your trillion dollar market will become irrelevant.

Oh yes ?
You are what spoke person of hollywood ?

Last time US imposed sanctions on India ...It was US who got smacked hard ...and not India . that's why sanctions were rolled back within 2 years .

whether our trillion dollar market will become irrelevant ....time will tell. You don't have to worry for us ...

 

[SrNair]

That corrupt fraudia Indian diplomat thought she was in India...paying just $4 an hour when even minimum hourly wages are around 11$.

We have also the story of Raymond Davis and flying of drones.

 

[Indo-guy]

abusive diplomat ? where did you get from ? she was being given more than 30000 Rs. , free food, shelter in new york....what more can you ask for

He wanted to be bit generous and added some 'superlatives' ...from his own pocket .

 

[Iggy]

@Indo-guy sashan and illal just showing the other side of the argument.. Its good to know other's POV too right? There is no question about the loyalty.. As far the lady is concerned, she or her father is involved in Adrash scam. In personal level if the charges are correct, she deserved to be arrested.. My view is that since she is a representative of India and a diplomat, US could have handled it carefully.. Instead of arresting her in public, they could have asked her to report to the police station for interrogation.. The public display is that what caused the damage..

 

[Developereo]

abusive diplomat ? where did you get from ? she was being given more than 30000 Rs. , free food, shelter in new york....what more can you ask for

What was the need to arrest the nanny's husband and child in India?

Clearly, the diplomat did what all influential people in India/Pakistan do, which is to use her connections to intimidate the nanny. The nanny was scared to come out of the attorney's office and had to be escorted by NYPD.

In some ways, I am glad this diplomat got a taste of her own medicine.

P.S. As for the wages, it doesn't matter one whit what contract she signed in India. On US soil, she had to obey US labor laws, regardless of any diplomatic shields within her household.

Oh yes ?
You are what spoke person of hollywood ?...

I know how the western media gets extremely upset when you offend gays.
In Australia, you can blabber all day long against any group, but if you say two words against gays, the media gets all up in arms. The same is true in the US.

 

[adwityagrata]

The whole thing seems to have started with the daughter of an Indian Diplomat getting falsely arrested and put in jail in February 2011.

She then sued the city of new York for 1.5 million $ for false arrest and damages.

Immediately after that the city of New York started their war against India by targeting India diplomats. The first case registered against Indian diplomat was in June 2011.

The second case was in 2012. This is the Third case, if you ignore the initial starting case of the above mentioned kid getting arrested.

 

[Bang Galore]

P.S. As for the wages, it doesn't matter one whit what contract she signed in India. On US soil, she had to obey US labor laws, regardless of any diplomatic shields within her household.

You would be wrong. The nanny had a diplomatic passport duly stamped by U.S. authorities. That would indicate that they treated her as diplomatic staff. Any allegation of U.S. law not being followed would be very difficult to make on someone who held a diplomatic passport & therefore could not be treated as an average immigrant.

If true, this is a disaster for India and this diplomat.

It sounds more and more like this unscrupulous and abusive diplomat used her connections to harass the nanny and her family in India. This aside from the fact that she broke any number of US laws.

A mid level diplomat would have no connections to do what she is supposed to have done.

 

[Developereo]

You would be wrong. The nanny had a diplomatic passport duly stamped by U.S. authorities. That would indicate that they treated her as diplomatic staff. Any allegation of U.S. law not being followed would be very difficult to make on someone who held a diplomatic passport & therefore could not be treated as an average immigrant.

Having diplomatic immunity doesn't mean you can engage in slavery or underage sex, for example. A crime according to US law is still a crime.

The most leniency you can expect is to be deported instead of being tried in US courts.

That's why the DA is pursuing her on charges of lying on visa applications, since that is a prosecutable crime regardless of where it occurred. (Most Indians would fill out US visa forms in India, but they would still be committing a crime by US law and could be prosecuted when they arrive in the US.)

 

[Star Wars]

What was the need to arrest the nanny's husband and child in India?

Clearly, the diplomat did what all influential people in India/Pakistan do, which is to use her connections to intimidate the nanny. The nanny was scared to come out of the attorney's office and had to be escorted by NYPD.

In some ways, I am glad this diplomat got a taste of her own medicine.

P.S. As for the wages, it doesn't matter one whit what contract she signed in India. On US soil, she had to obey US labor laws, regardless of any diplomatic shields within her household.
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no nanny or baby sitter in the world gets payed 4500$ ....that is simply outrageous... this is nothing but a sad excuse .... Its really none of business of Americans on what happens in India , their job is to treat diplomats as per Vienna convention which they failed ...

Having diplomatic immunity doesn't mean you can engage in slavery or underage sex, for example. A crime according to US law is still a crime.

The most leniency you can expect is to be deported instead of being tried in US courts.

That's why the DA is pursuing her on charges of lying on visa applications, since that is a prosecutable crime regardless of where it occurred. (Most Indians would fill out US visa forms in India, but they would still be committing a crime by US law and could be prosecuted when they arrive in the US.)

slavery and under age sex....stop with the nonsense

 

[Indo-guy]

@Indo-guy sashan and illal just showing the other side of the argument.. Its good to know other's POV too right? There is no question about the loyalty.. As far the lady is concerned, she or her father is involved in Adrash scam. In personal level if the charges are correct, she deserved to be arrested.. My view is that since she is a representative of India and a diplomat, US could have handled it carefully.. Instead of arresting her in public, they could have asked her to report to the police station for interrogation.. The public display is that what caused the damage..

These guys are defending US action ....

US double standards are known to everybody ....

Have not US amply demonstrated their double standards time and again ?

Irrespective of fact whether Devyani Khobragade is guilty or not there can be no justification about how she was treated overlooking the fact that she is diplomat of India ....


These guys are defending US against India .... where their loyalty lies is very clear to me !!!


Shame on these Indian- americans ....who turn against motherland just to prove their loyalty....and to remain in good-books of their benefactors ...

I don't expect them to stand by India ....I want them to stand by the truth ....

They have neither any respect for their motherland ....nor any regard for truth !!!


Have not I seen myself several instances of people who go abroad and settle and all of a sudden their country which gave them everything .....becomes a garbabge bag or dustbin for them .... ???

Sashan and lial and likes other exactly belong to that lot ....


Have you gone through previous posts of theses tow members ?

read carefully ....what they have said in their initial posts ...!

 

[Developereo]

no nanny or baby sitter in the world gets payed 4500$ ....that is simply outrageous... this is nothing but a sad excuse .... Its really none of business of Americans on what happens in India , their job is to treat diplomats as per Vienna convention which they failed ...

But the diplomat wrote that amount on the visa application. The US govt. didn't force her to write that amount; she did. And she lied, i.e visa fraud.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

@Indo-guy sashan and illal just showing the other side of the argument.. Its good to know other's POV too right? There is no question about the loyalty.. As far the lady is concerned, she or her father is involved in Adrash scam. In personal level if the charges are correct, she deserved to be arrested.. My view is that since she is a representative of India and a diplomat, US could have handled it carefully.. Instead of arresting her in public, they could have asked her to report to the police station for interrogation.. The public display is that what caused the damage..

Diplomats are not like average people. As representatives of an entire nation, they are given addiitonal previlages and are treated with care unless the crimes are serious. The US could have just asked her to leave the country immedeately- that would have been acceptable punishment (and damaged her career for good). When they arrest someone so senior for 'underpaying a nanny' and put her with drug addicts, it has several undertones and messages. Good that India took a tough stand.

 

[Bang Galore]

Having diplomatic immunity doesn't mean you can engage in slavery or underage sex, for example. A crime according to US law is still a crime.

The most leniency you can expect is to be deported instead of being tried in US courts.

That's why the DA is pursuing her on charges of lying on visa applications, since that is a prosecutable crime regardless of where it occurred. (Most Indians would fill out US visa forms in India, but they would still be committing a crime by US law and could be prosecuted when they arrive in the US.)

No you misunderstand. I said that the nanny has a diplomatic passport duly stamped by U.S. authorities accepting that she was diplomatic personnel. That means any U.S. law on minimum wage etc would not apply to her. If it were to apply, then surely it should also apply to the said diplomat who also was getting paid a salary below the argued minimum wage.