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India rejects Sharif’s demand for US intervention on Kashmir

Situation is getting worse. Talk is must.

Otherwise we will witness unforseen consequences.

I don't see any unforeseen consequences. What I see is Kashmir remaining with India and Pakistan complaining to US and EU to prevail up on India for talks. But given the largeness of Indian consumer market and its economy neither US nor EU would like to be on the bad side of India.
 
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If it is peace that pakistan wants then why doesn't it have the courage to sit across a table. And no simla agreement sign is going to keep the pakistan govt from doing evrything other than what was agreed.

USA has no say as far india and her territories are concerned.

Why are you running to someone when u say you can wipe us and **** like that. Let's talk war or peace .

Scared?
 
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I don't see any unforeseen consequences. What I see is Kashmir remaining with India and Pakistan complaining to US and EU to prevail up on India for talks. But given the largeness of Indian consumer market and its economy neither US nor EU would like to be on the bad side of India.

I said we will witness unforseen consequences.

We have LOC issues, Kashmir Issues and many more. Talk is must.

You never give a $hit to what we say. So now we are involving US in this matter.

So the issue can be solved
 
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India has nothing to loose but not talking to Pakistan. We like the present status-quo..
 
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I said we will witness unforseen consequences.

We have LOC issues, Kashmir Issues and many more. Talk is must.

You never give a $hit to what we say. So now we are involving US in this matter.

So the issue can be solved

What according to you is the solution to the Kashmir isue? Pakistan is not going to give up, according to India kashmir is an integral part of India.

I said we will witness unforseen consequences.

We have LOC issues, Kashmir Issues and many more. Talk is must.

You never give a $hit to what we say. So now we are involving US in this matter.

So the issue can be solved

What according to you is the solution to the Kashmir isue? Pakistan is not going to give up, according to India kashmir is an integral part of India.
 
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What according to you is the solution to the Kashmir isue? Pakistan is not going to give up, according to India kashmir is an integral part of India.



What according to you is the solution to the Kashmir isue? Pakistan is not going to give up, according to India kashmir is an integral part of India.

The Killing of Kashmir | Watch Free Documentary Online

Civilian killed by Indian Army: Pakistan - The Times of India

https://www.facebook.com/pages/We-Want-Justics-for-innocent-kashmiri-children-Killed-by-Indian-Army-Forces/135215176506184

There are a lots of link which proves that Kashmiri people don't want to be a part of India.

So let them chose whether they want to be a part of pakistan,

want to be a part of india
or
want to be independent

What according to you is the solution to the Kashmir isue? Pakistan is not going to give up, according to India kashmir is an integral part of India.



What according to you is the solution to the Kashmir isue? Pakistan is not going to give up, according to India kashmir is an integral part of India.

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-killing-of-kashmir/

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/Civilian-killed-by-Indian-Army-Pakistan/articleshow/24379618.cms

https://www.facebook.com/pages/We-Want-Justics-for-innocent-kashmiri-children-Killed-by-Indian-Army-Forces/135215176506184

There are a lots of link which proves that Kashmiri people don't want to be a part of India.

So let them chose whether they want to be a part of pakistan,

want to be a part of india
or
want to be independent
 
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I said we will witness unforseen consequences.

We have LOC issues, Kashmir Issues and many more. Talk is must.

You never give a $hit to what we say. So now we are involving US in this matter.

So the issue can be solved


Unless Pakistan is willing to set aside the claim for physical possession of territory, no amount of talks will go anywhere. The Musharraf formula is the maximum India will consider......more autonomy, soft borders etc(though soft borders is contingent on Pakistan clamping down on terrorist groups). There is little trust or interest on the Indian side after the PPP government reneged on the Musharraf deal & after Kayani withdrew army backing for it. The feeling is that any deal with Pakistan will be a fool's errand with subsequent governments & parts of the establishment simply not being committed to it. Better a not perfect status quo than a well intentioned but terrible change.
 
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Unless Pakistan is willing to set aside the claim for physical possession of territory, no amount of talks will go anywhere. The Musharraf formula is the maximum India will consider......more autonomy, soft borders etc(though soft borders is contingent on Pakistan clamping down on terrorist groups). There is little trust or interest on the Indian side after the PPP government reneged on the Musharraf deal & after Kayani withdrew army backing for it. The feeling is that any deal with Pakistan will be a fool's errand with subsequent governments & parts of the establishment simply not being committed to it. Better a not perfect status quo than a well intentioned but terrible change.


And the status quo is not too far from perfect anyway. The cost of deployments in J&K and interspersed incidents of terror strikes once in a while in the valley is really not that bad. There is hardly any area in the region that is safe from that anyway. And its a proxy war of attrition in which, India today has time on its side. The incidents in question, are a good topic to bicker about on the forums or definitely mean a lot to the actually impacted people and their families, but in larger scheme of things, really do not matter.
 
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I said we will witness unforseen consequences.

We have LOC issues, Kashmir Issues and many more. Talk is must.

You never give a $hit to what we say. So now we are involving US in this matter.

So the issue can be solved

And you never give a sh!t to what we say.

I know that Pakistani studies text books teaches that Hindoos are dark skinned, weaklings, but you still think India is just going to give that up ?

Be glad india, not israel is your neighbour.

I said we will witness unforseen consequences.

We have LOC issues, Kashmir Issues and many more. Talk is must.

You never give a $hit to what we say. So now we are involving US in this matter.

So the issue can be solved

And you never give a sh!t to what we say.

I know that Pakistani studies text books teaches that Hindoos are dark skinned, weaklings, but you still think India is just going to give that up ?

Be glad india, not israel is your neighbour.
 
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One should not read too much or lose sleep on this .

This is the standard opening line of any Pak head when he / she visits US.

The aim being :

1. To try & show the world that the problems that exist in Pak ( & there are more than many) are due to 'outside' reasons.

2. To play to the domestic gallery.

3. Attempt to divert attention from the main problem i.e. Pakistan's perpetual state of self created & by now uncontrollable flux .

Assuming for a moment that the K issue gets solved , will TTP stop killing ? Will BLA take a break ?

Today, Pak Govt & PA spends more time & resources in defending themselves against those who have nothing to do in J&K .
 
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The Killing of Kashmir | Watch Free Documentary Online

Civilian killed by Indian Army: Pakistan - The Times of India

https://www.facebook.com/pages/We-Want-Justics-for-innocent-kashmiri-children-Killed-by-Indian-Army-Forces/135215176506184

There are a lots of link which proves that Kashmiri people don't want to be a part of India.

So let them chose whether they want to be a part of pakistan,

want to be a part of india
or
want to be independent



The Killing of Kashmir | Watch Free Documentary Online

Civilian killed by Indian Army: Pakistan - The Times of India

https://www.facebook.com/pages/We-Want-Justics-for-innocent-kashmiri-children-Killed-by-Indian-Army-Forces/135215176506184

There are a lots of link which proves that Kashmiri people don't want to be a part of India.

So let them chose whether they want to be a part of pakistan,

want to be a part of india
or
want to be independent

According to us this thinking is flawed, the population of J&K is about 13,000000 and a few thousands (at the most) dont represent the likesof the whole state, we have had a far higher number participating in the democratic elections, moreover the entire demography of the state has changed with the Pandits being driven away on the Indian side and a lot of Pakistanis moving in to the other side. As of today Kashmiris dont represent Kashmir.
 
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I know that Pakistani studies text books teaches that Hindoos are dark skinned, weaklings, but you still think India is just going to give that up ?

:omghaha:

I know that Pakistani studies text books teaches that Hindoos are dark skinned, weaklings, but you still think India is just going to give that up ?

:omghaha:
 
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The Killing of Kashmir | Watch Free Documentary Online

Civilian killed by Indian Army: Pakistan - The Times of India

https://www.facebook.com/pages/We-Want-Justics-for-innocent-kashmiri-children-Killed-by-Indian-Army-Forces/135215176506184

There are a lots of link which proves that Kashmiri people don't want to be a part of India.

So let them chose whether they want to be a part of pakistan,

want to be a part of india
or
want to be independent



The Killing of Kashmir | Watch Free Documentary Online

Civilian killed by Indian Army: Pakistan - The Times of India

https://www.facebook.com/pages/We-Want-Justics-for-innocent-kashmiri-children-Killed-by-Indian-Army-Forces/135215176506184

There are a lots of link which proves that Kashmiri people don't want to be a part of India.

So let them chose whether they want to be a part of pakistan,

want to be a part of india
or
want to be independent

According to us this thinking is flawed, the population of J&K is about 13,000000 and a few thousands (at the most) dont represent the likesof the whole state, we have had a far higher number participating in the democratic elections, moreover the entire demography of the state has changed with the Pandits being driven away on the Indian side and a lot of Pakistanis moving in to the other side. As of today Kashmiris dont represent Kashmir.
 
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India rejects US mediation on Kashmir - DAWN.COM


NEW DELHI: India rejected on Sunday Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s suggestion for US mediation in the Kashmir dispute and Foreign Minister Salman Khurshid said it would be a waste of time to question Delhi’s claim over the troubled region.

In an interview to NDTV, Mr Khurshid voiced concern over ceasefire violations at the Line of Control and hoped these do not result in any more casualties.

He, however, rejected suggestions that these have led to a collapse of the truce between the two neighbours.

Mr Khurshid also said that any US economic aid to Pakistan must not be used in a manner that is detrimental to India's security and strategic interests and hoped that Washington will keep that in mind as a “good strategic partner”.

“There is no way in which India will accept any intervention on an issue that is entirely accepted in the Simla Agreement as a bilateral issue between India and Pakistan,” he said.

He said Kashmir was an integral part of India and no-one should raise a question on that. “It is a waste of time for anybody no matter how eminent to be even trying to question it,” he said.

On whether the ceasefire has collapsed, he said: “I don’t think that is true. There are many violations. It is a large number of small-armed fires.

It is unacceptable and certainly counter-productive. But I don’t think we can at this point say that ceasefire has collapsed. That would not be a correct assessment of the situation.”

Press Trust of India said Mr Khurshid also got useful backing from the principal opposition, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP).

Former BJP president Murli Manohar Joshi said no third party had the right to interfere on the matter.

He appealed to US President Barack Obama to reject Mr Sharif's proposal, which was made during a stopover in London on his way to the US.

Ahead of his meeting with President Obama, Mr Sharif on Sunday reportedly sought US intervention in resolving the Kashmir issue.

Mr Joshi said India has already made it very clear that not just the Kashmir issue, but any matter between India and Pakistan would be solved only by the two countries, and no third party had the right to get involved.

“Nawaz Sharif’s statement on US intervention is not accepted,” he said.

Typically, the leftists too came into the frame. Terming the Kashmir matter as a bilateral issue, Communist Party of India’s National Secretary D. Raja said Islamabad should not try to internationalise the Kashmir issue.

“Why should the United States be allowed to interfere in an issue which is being dealt with between India and Pakistan?” he said.

“Pakistan government should realise this. Islamabad had earlier tried to internationalise this issue but had failed.”
 
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