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So much for hopes and claims of debate and discussion and the "door" being open and all.
@Joe Shearer @hellfire @Levina @WAJsal
OP, haven't had the chance to go through those rants!On this OP or the general rants???
On topic: It was a ploy to apply pressure for meaningful talks. Today videos of tricolor in Baluchistan are being circulated on net.
I think it is all a part of the pressure tactics to get a meaningful dialogue on course. And I hope it does.
The public hardening of stand, the rhetoric and the US State Department's statement or lack thereof, all are serious indicators of some diplomatic pressure being built on Pakistan on a compromise(?).
Now @WAJsal will get on my case but the fact is, the alternate to present situation is very serious and grim, seeing that Kashmir valley remains tense and BSF is coming on streets now, with CAPFs and police being eased off. That is serious, as per me.
@Joe Shearer your comments?
OP, haven't had the chance to go through those rants!
Come one, both of know what it was a ploy for!! There are no hidden agendas here, it is what it is!! For how long will we keep shying away from these bitter truths? THERE IS NO HOPE!
OP, haven't had the chance to go through those rants!
Come one, both of know what it was a ploy for!! There are no hidden agendas here, it is what it is!! For how long will we keep shying away from these bitter truths? THERE IS NO HOPE!
there is nothing to back off in baluchistan matter. it is wishful thinking. the attempt was made and have failed, it is as simple as that. i am just leaving for home and will get back on this with a better detailed reply. it is nothing new and you know most of it already, still, i will try to put it up again.I will differ here. Diplomatic pressure is being mounted on Pakistan. You have to read it in the context of statements emanating in your own political scene, Imran Khan ranting off, Altaf Hussein, MQM in Karachi wins Mayor elections and the Mayor is in jail, Tricolor in Baluchistan, there are multiple pressure points being built - internally and externally.
Howsoever, cockeyed my logic is, please do grant me that I was not off regarding the policy of India which has got adopted, only I gave a rationale for it (WAJsal it is only to highlight the logic; not to debate). The message being sent is clear; talk terror, discuss P0K and we back off on Baluchistan if you stay away in Kashmir. The moment Pakistan backs off on Kashmir, things will simmer down. Pragmatically, we can agree on division of Kashmir. Allow for the movement of those who do not want to stay where they are presently and arrange a suitable financial compensation for the rehabilitation on either side in a phased manner.
I only hope that this does not head south. Then the proverbial $hit will hit the fan, because all indicators are heading in that direction.
there is nothing to back off in baluchistan matter. it is wishful thinking. the attempt was made and have failed, it is as simple as that. i am just leaving for home and will get back on this with a better detailed reply. it is nothing new and you know most of it already, still, i will try to put it up again.
On this OP or the general rants???
On topic: It was a ploy to apply pressure for meaningful talks. Today videos of tricolor in Baluchistan are being circulated on net.
I think it is all a part of the pressure tactics to get a meaningful dialogue on course. And I hope it does.
The public hardening of stand, the rhetoric and the US State Department's statement or lack thereof, all are serious indicators of some diplomatic pressure being built on Pakistan on a compromise(?).
Now @WAJsal will get on my case but the fact is, the alternate to present situation is very serious and grim, seeing that Kashmir valley remains tense and BSF is coming on streets now, with CAPFs and police being eased off. That is serious, as per me.
@Joe Shearer your comments?
You live in wonderland, get down to realpolitik.
GoI and its logics!!!Nah, I know. Don't waste your time repeating.
I am giving you the GoI logic here. Your post, that is all I replied to with reference to the logic prevalent right now.
Chill. This will hopefully sort out.
hmmm and India and India!Most probability SAARC will be diluted and in its place we will have sub regional cooperations such as BBIN and India and South East Asia ECM.
hmmm and India and India!