India readies hi-tech naval base to keep eye on China

[navtrek]

China India had one "war" 50 years ago. Isn't it time to move on? Today's China is not the same nor is India.

China and India's goal today should be one of friendship and not mistrust. China and India, both populous, both with rich history and both on the same continent. There is far more to be gained in peace than war.

We agree that is what is the larger understanding. Its just the media adding masala to the news.

 

[$@rJen]

China India had one "war" 50 years ago. Isn't it time to move on? Today's China is not the same nor is India.China and India's goal today should be one of friendship and not mistrust. China and India, both populous, both with rich history and both on the same continent. There is far more to be gained in peace than war.

why don't you give us back aksai chin and stop claiming AP and we may trust you..... you call for friendship and peace but the same time develop the border region and mount your weapons and troops, you make ports around India and asking us to trust you.... Nehru was fool enough to trust you and nicely you people bend him over , I don't think our current governments would make the same mistake

 

[RazPaK]

Can the Indians watch Gwadar from there?

 

[djsjs]

why don't you give us back aksai chin and stop claiming AP and we may trust you..... you call for friendship and peace but the same time develop the border region and mount your weapons and troops, you make ports around India and asking us to trust you.... Nehru was fool enough to trust you and nicely you people bend him over , I don't think our current governments would make the same mistake

our southwest border region is the poorest in China,shouldnt be developed?maybe you saw some good roads in Tibet,but it is nothing compared to other provinces,in east China,our infrastructure is as good as the developed countries.the weapons,none is designed or made or bought to fire on you.we have several main enemies,India not included.

 

[Ayush]

Can the Indians watch Gwadar from there?

no,chabahar port is enough for that.

 

[Ajaxpaul]

Can the Indians watch Gwadar from there?

eye in the sky is more than enough.

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

Can the Indians watch Gwadar from there?

Gwadar ships are in range of Indian Antiship missiles, within 5 mins all ships will be sinking in Gwadar. lol

our southwest border region is the poorest in China,shouldnt be developed?maybe you saw some good roads in Tibet,but it is nothing compared to other provinces,in east China,our infrastructure is as good as the developed countries.the weapons,none is designed or made or bought to fire on you.we have several main enemies,India not included.

India is , thats why you armed Pak with Nuke and missiles.

 

[indian_foxhound]

Yes, A&N are being developed in many areas on a military level from airbases to naval infrastructure. One of the biggest but overlooked facets of this is the massive Amphibious training school being set up in the A&N islands that is going to train and raise India's own "Marine corps" for the IN and will also be used to train certain IA units.

@Yeti i guess i mean what i know Nicobars are the one of the advance base of india. indian navy have some surprise package over there.

 

[djsjs]

Gwadar ships are in range of Indian Antiship missiles, within 5 mins all ships will be sinking in Gwadar. lol
India is , thats why you armed Pak with Nuke and missiles.

no evidence about nuke haha so no need to talk here..
about missile.in your theory, everyone who sell weapons to your enemy is your enemy,right?if China is your enemy,dont forget add Russia,Israel,Ukraine.....and even US.
maybe one day we can sell you some weapons too,haha.

 

[Genesis]

It took China almost 40 years to reach what it is today. Countless people sacrificed either willingly or unwillingly, but sacrificed non the less. India I'm sure has endured the same more or less.

Why would there be people that want to destroy this?

If we are to bring up history, I want to know who do you hate/mistrust more? China? Or UK who has colonized India. No matter how much the Chinese has done it can't be more than UK.

China and India team up to ditch the developing country tag and finally make this the Asian century should be the goal of every Chinese and Indian, should it not?

 

[IND151]

NEW DELHI: Slowly but steadily, India's new futuristic naval base is beginning to take concrete shape on the eastern seaboard. The strategic base, with an eye firmly on China, will eventually even have underground pens or bunkers to protect nuclear submarines both from spy satellites and enemy air attacks.


Sources said a flurry of discussions and meetings have been held in the PMO and defence ministry over the last couple of months to firm up "expansion plans'' for a base located near Rambilli called "Project Varsha" on the Andhra coast — just about 50 km from the Eastern Naval Command headquarters at Visakhapatnam — over the coming decade.

Though it's still very early days for Project Varsha, some bill it as an answer to China's massive underground nuclear submarine base at Yalong on the southernmost tip of Hainan Island, which houses its new Shang-class SSNs (nuclear-powered attack submarines) and the Jin-class SSBNs (nuclear-powered submarines with long-range nuclear missiles).

Although land acquisitions and incremental development work on the base under the secretive project kicked off a few years ago, it is set to take off in a major way with the construction of tunnels, jetties, depots, workshops and accommodation. "Further land acquisitions for the sprawling base to be spread over 20 sq km are now underway, with long-term budget allocations also being planned,'' said a source.

The endeavour dovetails into the overall policy to bolster force-levels on the eastern seaboard, with new warships, aircraft and spy drones as well as forward-operating (FOBs) and operational turnaround (OTR) bases, to counter China's expanding footprint in the entire Indian Ocean Region (IOR).

Naval assets to protect India's long coastline and keep watch over the crucial trade corridors in the Indian Ocean are essential to Indian interests. The strategic value of force projection beyond the Andaman islands is seen in terms of deterrence as well given the aggressive military Chinese expansion. India's own SSBN programme is also poised to turn the corner soon with sea trials of the 6,000-tonne INS Arihant slated to begin off Visakhapatnam. INS Arihant and its three "follow-on'' SSBNs, which will complete India's elusive nuclear weapon triad since they will be armed with the `K' series of submarine-launched ballistic missiles, as well as other frontline warships will be housed at the new base.

The Navy plans to operate at least three SSBNs and six SSNs in the long run for effective nuclear deterrence. Moreover, after inducting the 8,140-tonne INS Chakra submarine on a 10-year lease from Russia last year, India is now negotiating the lease of another such nuclear-powered Akula-II class submarine, as was earlier reported by TOI.

Project Varsha's ambitious scale in the years ahead will rival the expansive "Project Seabird'' under which the Karwar naval base has come up in coastal Karnataka to give India both strategic depth and operational flexibility on the western seaboard against Pakistan. While Karwar will decongest the over-crowded Mumbai port, the new base will do the same for Vizag on the east.

Karwar can currently base 11 major warships and 10 yard-craft after completion of its Phase-I at a cost of Rs 2,629 crore. The Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) had last year approved Rs 13,000 crore for its expansion under Phase-IIA to ensure it can berth 32 major warships and submarines by 2018-19.

Karwar will be the home base for aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya, the 44,570-tonne Admiral Gorshkov being refitted in Russia for $2.33 billion, as well as the six French Scorpene submarines being built at Mazagon Docks for Rs 23,562 crore.

India readies hi-tech naval base to keep eye on China - The Times of India

very good news

 

[illusion8]

It took China almost 40 years to reach what it is today. Countless people sacrificed either willingly or unwillingly, but sacrificed non the less. India I'm sure has endured the same more or less.

Why would there be people that want to destroy this?

If we are to bring up history, I want to know who do you hate/mistrust more? China? Or UK who has colonized India. No matter how much the Chinese has done it can't be more than UK.

China and India team up to ditch the developing country tag and finally make this the Asian century should be the goal of every Chinese and Indian, should it not?

I am sure something will go down in those lines in the near future, now is the time for consolidation and break the shackles one by one.

 

[Hellraiser007]

It took China almost 40 years to reach what it is today. Countless people sacrificed either willingly or unwillingly, but sacrificed non the less. India I'm sure has endured the same more or less.

Why would there be people that want to destroy this?

If we are to bring up history, I want to know who do you hate/mistrust more? China? Or UK who has colonized India. No matter how much the Chinese has done it can't be more than UK.

China and India team up to ditch the developing country tag and finally make this the Asian century should be the goal of every Chinese and Indian, should it not?

Yes Chinese and Indian friendship is good for Asia and we also like to get close with China.

What about the Nuclear and Military weapon support to Pakistan???

Is the question and is the big obstacle here, as the military and nuke tech to Pakistan continues India will become suspicious over China. Which is also justified.

 

[IND151]

It took China almost 40 years to reach what it is today. Countless people sacrificed either willingly or unwillingly, but sacrificed non the less. India I'm sure has endured the same more or less.

Why would there be people that want to destroy this?

If we are to bring up history, I want to know who do you hate/mistrust more? China? Or UK who has colonized India. No matter how much the Chinese has done it can't be more than UK.

China and India team up to ditch the developing country tag and finally make this the Asian century should be the goal of every Chinese and Indian, should it not?

We don't want war.

What we are doing is to strengthen our position in eastern seaboard; when India will have SSBNs patrolling in bay of Bengal and near A&N, ready to fire K-4s at enemy cities and military installations at notice of few minutes, it will act as our ultimate deterrent.

These platforms will be hard to detect and will complete our nuclear triad.

and these subs will need huge bases, hence we are expanding base Varsha

 

[Genesis]

Yes Chinese and Indian friendship is good for Asia and we also like to get close with China.

What about the Nuclear and Military weapon support to Pakistan???

Is the question and is the big obstacle here, as the military and nuke tech to Pakistan continues India will become suspicious over China. Which is also justified.

I get that, if India helped Japan or Philippines in a situation like India Pakistan I guess the Chinese would be pissed. The problem now is the Pakistan relationship was cemented when nobody wanted to play with China but the poor kids. Now that China is bigger and richer, China can't just say, yea I got new friends now, more important than you so, have a good life.

It's a tough situation to say the least, but more dialog and perhaps more transparency.

But one thing is weird to me, I hate to admit this but China hates Japan not really for the War but for Japan batting out of order in Chinese Eyes. The number 9 hitter batted clean up and is hitting home runs, while the former clean up hitter is striking out each time. What's the deal with India Pakistan? Is it just border issues?