India project navy too little too late

[Steakhouse]

Indian 15B Project Navy Destroyers—Too Little, Too Late
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Creation of a batch of destroyers under project 15A and the recent launching of the first destroyer in the series 15B are undoubtedly a sign of success of the Indian defense industry

India is making progress in its endeavor to emerge as a formidable military-industrial power. However, a comparison of these construction programmes of large destroyers with similar Chinese programmes clearly demonstrates that attempts to maintain parity in the naval race with China are potentially ruinous for India at least for now, says Vasily Kashin, expert at the Center for Strategic and Technological Analysis.

Destroyers of the Kolkata class and Improved Kolkata class (Projects 15A and 15B), which include the recently Launched INS Visakhapatnam, are well armed. They are equipped with 16 powerful supersonic anti-ship missiles Brahmos developed jointly with Russia, and air defense systems Barak NG produced together with Israel.

These ships have radars and electronic equipment of Israeli and Russian origin. More than 65% of the cost of INS Visakhapatnam is covered by Indian equipment and materials. However, basically these are low-tech components, including steel for the body of the ship. India has launched one destroyer in the project 15A, is completing the construction of two more, and is planning to build a total of 4 destroyers in the Project 15B. However, recent publications on the theme "Beware of China" are an exaggeration, says Vasily Kashin.

Latest Indian destroyers can be considered roughly equivalent to the Chinese ships designed under the project 052C. The first such destroyer "Lanzhou" was inducted into the South China Fleet 10 years ago in 2005. Ships of the project 052C are equipped with radars with active phased antenna arrays. The Chinese ship also carries more anti-aircraft missiles, which have a longer range. Anti-ship weaponry may be weaker than in the Indian ships, but with the advent of China's new generation of supersonic cruise missiles like YJ-18, it can be reinforced at the next upgrade.

Thus, we are talking about an approximately ten-year lag behind China. But in fact the situation is even worse. 052C are almost entirely Chinese-built ships. The first few still carried Ukrainian turbines, just like the Indian destroyers, but since then China has mastered independent production of such turbines in Harbin.

But the project 052C is yesterday. Ongoing at present is the construction of a series of at least 12 destroyers in the project 052D, the first of which became part of the Chinese navy last year. These new-generation ships are equipped with multi-functional 64-cell vertical launch devices, modeled on modern American destroyers. They have even more perfect electronic equipment and can carry supersonic missiles YJ-18.

Chinese successes are mainly based on their indigenous industry, while India continues to depend on foreign suppliers and also has limited budget allocations. At present, India does not have the ability to participate in a full-scale naval race with China.

Its only advantage is an easier access to foreign military technology than China. But this is not enough for success. Unable to respond to the Chinese naval power with a symmetrical growth, India will have to find its own unique asymmetric ways of solving the problem to maintain its naval supremacy in the Indian Ocean.

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[Ceonwulf]

Yes I agree, Indian destroyers are too little too late.

Not enough to counter the mightly PLAN!!

 

[Steakhouse]

Yes I agree, Indian destroyers are too little too late.

Not enough to counter the mightly PLAN!!

Wait till Indian poster come in and post their mighty navy capacity to annihilate China navy in the Indian Ocean. More outlandish claim from Indian posters to prove their mighty military industrial complex.

 

[C130]

Yes I agree, Indian destroyers are too little too late.

Not enough to counter the mightly PLAN!!

too little too late? is there going to a big war between the two anytime soon??

each destroyer has 16 long range supersonic missiles that's a great equalizer in my opinion still now near parity, but what else can they do?? say heck it's too little too late let's throw in the towel and do nothing

 

[Beast]

too little too late? is there going to a big war between the two anytime soon??

each destroyer has 16 long range supersonic missiles that's a great equalizer in my opinion still now near parity, but what else can they do?? say heck it's too little too late let's throw in the towel and do nothing

A simple flying bomb track can send the ship down. Nowadays platform need to face multiple bomb threat. Are we still in the era of facing ship to ship?

 

[C130]

A simple flying bomb track can send the ship down. Nowadays platform need to face multiple bomb threat. Are we still in the era of facing ship to ship?

the article is comparing India destroyers to China destroyers it doesn't mention other systems to be used

i wonder if U.S would supply India the details of Chinese ship positions at sea. it would make it a lot easier to sink'em

 

[Agent_47]

Why don't russians take a hard look at their navy. The good old rusty navy.
Russia’s Navy: More rust than ready

 

[Beast]

the article is comparing India destroyers to China destroyers it doesn't mention other systems to be used

i wonder if U.S would supply India the details of Chinese ship positions at sea. it would make it a lot easier to sink'em

I know it hard for u to comprehend.

 

[Zarvan]

Indian 15B Project Navy Destroyers—Too Little, Too Late
© Sputnik. Vladimir Kobzar
SOUTH ASIA
14:20 03.05.2015(updated 13:50 03.05.2015) Get short URL
3200
Creation of a batch of destroyers under project 15A and the recent launching of the first destroyer in the series 15B are undoubtedly a sign of success of the Indian defense industry

India is making progress in its endeavor to emerge as a formidable military-industrial power. However, a comparison of these construction programmes of large destroyers with similar Chinese programmes clearly demonstrates that attempts to maintain parity in the naval race with China are potentially ruinous for India at least for now, says Vasily Kashin, expert at the Center for Strategic and Technological Analysis.

Destroyers of the Kolkata class and Improved Kolkata class (Projects 15A and 15B), which include the recently Launched INS Visakhapatnam, are well armed. They are equipped with 16 powerful supersonic anti-ship missiles Brahmos developed jointly with Russia, and air defense systems Barak NG produced together with Israel.

These ships have radars and electronic equipment of Israeli and Russian origin. More than 65% of the cost of INS Visakhapatnam is covered by Indian equipment and materials. However, basically these are low-tech components, including steel for the body of the ship. India has launched one destroyer in the project 15A, is completing the construction of two more, and is planning to build a total of 4 destroyers in the Project 15B. However, recent publications on the theme "Beware of China" are an exaggeration, says Vasily Kashin.

Latest Indian destroyers can be considered roughly equivalent to the Chinese ships designed under the project 052C. The first such destroyer "Lanzhou" was inducted into the South China Fleet 10 years ago in 2005. Ships of the project 052C are equipped with radars with active phased antenna arrays. The Chinese ship also carries more anti-aircraft missiles, which have a longer range. Anti-ship weaponry may be weaker than in the Indian ships, but with the advent of China's new generation of supersonic cruise missiles like YJ-18, it can be reinforced at the next upgrade.

Thus, we are talking about an approximately ten-year lag behind China. But in fact the situation is even worse. 052C are almost entirely Chinese-built ships. The first few still carried Ukrainian turbines, just like the Indian destroyers, but since then China has mastered independent production of such turbines in Harbin.

But the project 052C is yesterday. Ongoing at present is the construction of a series of at least 12 destroyers in the project 052D, the first of which became part of the Chinese navy last year. These new-generation ships are equipped with multi-functional 64-cell vertical launch devices, modeled on modern American destroyers. They have even more perfect electronic equipment and can carry supersonic missiles YJ-18.

Chinese successes are mainly based on their indigenous industry, while India continues to depend on foreign suppliers and also has limited budget allocations. At present, India does not have the ability to participate in a full-scale naval race with China.

Its only advantage is an easier access to foreign military technology than China. But this is not enough for success. Unable to respond to the Chinese naval power with a symmetrical growth, India will have to find its own unique asymmetric ways of solving the problem to maintain its naval supremacy in the Indian Ocean.

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I agree

 

[C130]

I know it hard for u to comprehend.

I know it hard for u to comprehend.

the article should of added other Chinese systems that give them a surperior edge which they do.

should India give up because it's at an disadvantage?

did China give up when the U.S had a clear military advantage in ships,planes, radar, and intelligence??

 

[Beast]

the article should of added other Chinese systems that give them a surperior edge which they do.

should India give up because it's at an disadvantage?

did China give up when the U.S had a clear military advantage in ships,planes, radar, and intelligence??

China and US basically build their own system while India needs to wait for foreign contractor to come up something fancy or worst wait for export approval before getting their hands on it for their ship.

It's not even fair to put india and China in comparison.

That's how their Barak 8 got delay.

 

[axisofevil]

China and US basically build their own system while India needs to wait for foreign contractor to come up something fancy or worst wait for export approval before getting their hands on it for their ship.

It's not even fair to put india and China in comparison.

That's how their Barak 8 got delay.

Right China built everything by themselves. So naive....

 

[Beast]

Right China built everything by themselves. So naive....

You are more naive to think not

You think Ukraine in the midst of a civil war still can supply us ship turbine couple with the fact China allied with Russians? How do we continue to launch so much destroyer and even continue our Type 055 cruiser project?

 

[Water Car Engineer]

It's not little too late for anything. China has to deal with Japan and the US fleet at their own space. IN worst threat perception is Chinese fleet attack in the I.O. Both of these examples arent going to happen any time soon. India has time to build capabilities. And building it's own SSKs, SSNs, SSBNs, etc. and the different subsystems and weapons for them are falling in place.

It wasnt, "little too late", 20+ years ago when Japan and the US was miles a head of you, and still are, so...? By no means is it too late for India.

 

[Tiger Genie]

Some of these Chinese guys are unintended comic relief. One has to keep reminding these guys - if a few Walmart contracts are cancelled between that and your $28T write off awaiting to happen, you guys are toast ... I your own toaster inventory. So yeah, Japan is kind of on the planned track and those in the know in Beijing are a bit shaky in panty.