India PM fails to strike nuclear deal in Russia

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MOSCOW: Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh failed Monday to strike a long-delayed nuclear power deal with Russia during talks with President Vladimir Putin that also focused on big arms and energy deals.

Singh is using one of his last major foreign trips as prime minister before 2014 general elections to seek resolutions to lingering issues with two of India's most important regional partners.

The 81-year-old prime minister will leave Russia for China on Tuesday in a bid to forge closer economic relations and ink a pact to ease tension along their disputed border in a remote Himalayan region.

His trip to Moscow was preceded by gruelling behind-the-scenes negotiations on the next phase of a Russian-built nuclear power plant on India's south coast -- one of the current government's signature projects.

Singh said India and Russia enjoyed a "privileged strategic partnership" that enabled the two giants to coordinate their foreign policy views.

Yet he made no mention of an historic deal for the Kudankulam plant that was first signed in 1988 by then Indian prime minister Rajiv Gandhi and former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev.

The collapse of the Soviet Union and Russia's subsequent years of economic mayhem meant that construction of the plant did not begin until 2002.

Work has been nearly completed on the first two units despite local protests that halted progress for six months in 2011-2012.

India now hopes to strike deals for an additional two reactors at the same location as it looks to meet surging electricity demand.

But the 2010 Fukushima nuclear power plant accident prompted India to adopt a strict new safety liability law that Russia believes should not be applied to this project since it was conceived in Soviet times.

Negotiations about how the dispute can be skirted in time for Singh's meeting with Putin went down to the wire, and failed, despite optimism from India's outgoing government head.

The two sides instead issued a joint statement saying they had "agreed to speed up work on drafting a general framework agreement" on the third and fourth blocks at Kudankulam.

Putin and Singh also took a veiled swipe at Pakistan for its conflicted relations with the Taliban movement that is making its presence felt more prominently in Afghanistan amid the United States' ongoing drawdown of troops.

"Nations that aid terrorists by abetting and protecting them are guilty of committing the acts of terror to the same extent as the criminals who actually perpetrate these crimes," the two leaders' joint statement said.

Russia has been India's biggest weapons supplier for decades and arms talks are always a component of the annual round of meetings between the Indian prime minister and the Russian head of state.

Moscow news reports said the sides were closing in on an agreement for Russia to upgrade four existing Indian diesel-electric submarines and lease out several more.

A Russian military source told the state-run RIA Novosti news agency that New Delhi was also interested in financing the construction of a nuclear-powered submarine that could be delivered to India in the years to come.

"Joint (military) projects confirm the high level of our technical and industrial cooperation," Putin said after the talks.

Singh and Putin said in a separate statement that they intended to "study the possibility" of Russia sending petroleum products to India by rail for the first time.

India PM fails to strike nuclear deal in Russia

 

[sinocommander]

excellent ,excellent ,excellent..... india must continue ruining its relations with Russia for sake of USA dream team. We will have a indo-russia split soon.

 

[illusion8]

excellent ,excellent ,excellent..... india must continue ruining its relations with Russia for sake of USA dream team. We will have a indo-russia split soon.

If wishes were horses beggars would ride.

 

[MohitV]

saw this coming...thnx to our indian guv. which has failed to understand the importance of russia.......at least we still have a good military cooperation....

 

[sinocommander]

If wishes were horses beggars would ride.

Well,its happening.Thats clear from the defence procurements and india's meek and changing stance on syria and india's defence pact with Qatar ,a wahabbi nation.

saw this coming...thnx to our indian guv. which has failed to understand the importance of russia.......at least we still have a good military cooperation....

The military cooperation will fall apart in a matter of time .You guys are making the same mistakes that Mao made that started the sino-soviet split.

 

[MohitV]

The military cooperation will fall apart in a matter of time .You guys are making the same mistakes that Mao made that started the sino-soviet split.

dude wat have i done :\ ??? blame the guv. not me

 

[illusion8]

Well,its happening.Thats clear from the defence procurements and india's meek and changing stance on syria and india's defence pact with Qatar ,a wahabbi nation.

As I said if wishes were horses....

India's and Russia's interests don't clash anywhere, check out India's statement on Syria first before citing it as an example - India completely supported Russia's stance on Syria, secondly our friendship is very old to be bothered by minor issues. As for China - internally CCP views Russia as an enemy and eyes Russia's territories simultaneously Russia is wary of China and also views it as a potential enemy, the same goes for Pakistan and Russia. Russia thinks Pakistan supports Islamic militants against Russia.

 

[sinocommander]

dude wat have i done :\ ??? blame the guv. not me

The only mistake is that your govt is making it very easy for us to annex India.

 

[illusion8]

The only mistake is that your govt is making it very easy for us to annex India.

Typical 50 center troll from the water army.

 

[sinocommander]

As I said if wishes were horses....

India's and Russia's interests don't clash anywhere, check out India's statement on Syria first before citing it as an example - India completely supported Russia's stance on Syria, secondly our friendship is very old to be bothered by minor issues. As for China - internally CCP views Russia as an enemy and eyes Russia's territories simultaneously Russia is wary of China and also views it as a potential enemy, the same goes for Pakistan.

We don't eye Russian territories. Those are wet dreams of Hong kong and young chinese ultranationalists. No way we will pick a fight with Russia.

check out India's statement on Syria

“India's stand on Syria came as a surprise to the Kremlin,” says Prof. Andrei Volodin of the Russian Foreign Ministry's Diplomatic Academy. He thinks it is shortsighted on the part of India to cast its lot with the U.S., whose global power is declining, and with conservative Gulf monarchies, which are historically doomed. But he admits that India's Syria stand falls into a trend.

“Some upper echelons in the Ministry of External Affairs, alarmed by China's fast rise and backed by the U.S. Indian community and a corporate lobby, are trying to impose a foreign policy course on the country's leadership that goes against India's long-term interests,” the Russian scholar who closely follows India's political scene told The Hindu. Prof. Volodin sees this trend as part of an ongoing struggle in the Indian elite between advocates and opponents of the foreign policy tradition of Jawaharlal Nehru and Indira Gandhi, a struggle aggravated by a general decline in the level of strategic thinking in the Indian foreign policy establishment.

“India's stand on Syria betrays the same lack of strategic foresight as its recent decision to buy in a tender a 20th century fighter plane for 21st century tasks at a time when a fifth-generation platform that India is jointly developing with Russia is in the pipeline.”

Five years ago, Mr. Putin, then President, placed India along with Russia and China in an exclusive club of world powers that “can afford the luxury of genuine sovereignty”. As he prepares to reclaim presidency, Mr. Putin has again invoked the issue of sovereignty in foreign policy.

“Everything we do will be based on our own interests and goals, not on decisions other countries impose on us … Russia has practically always had the privilege of pursuing an independent foreign policy and this is how it will be in the future,” Mr. Putin wrote in his election manifesto.

“Syria has put to the test the ability of countries to take sovereign decisions,” says Prof. Volodin. “Russia and China have passed the test; India, unfortunately, has not.”
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This is from Hindu.

And look at the trend of recent defence procurments. Tells otherwise.The official word 'diversification' .Like I said the same mistakes that Mao made.

As I said if wishes were horses....

India's and Russia's interests don't clash anywhere, check out India's statement on Syria first before citing it as an example - India completely supported Russia's stance on Syria, secondly our friendship is very old to be bothered by minor issues. As for China - internally CCP views Russia as an enemy and eyes Russia's territories simultaneously Russia is wary of China and also views it as a potential enemy, the same goes for Pakistan.

We don't eye Russian territories. Those are wet dreams of Hong kong and young chinese ultranationalists. No way we will pick a fight with Russia.

check out India's statement on Syria

“India's stand on Syria came as a surprise to the Kremlin,” says Prof. Andrei Volodin of the Russian Foreign Ministry's Diplomatic Academy. He thinks it is shortsighted on the part of India to cast its lot with the U.S., whose global power is declining, and with conservative Gulf monarchies, which are historically doomed. But he admits that India's Syria stand falls into a trend.

“Some upper echelons in the Ministry of External Affairs, alarmed by China's fast rise and backed by the U.S. Indian community and a corporate lobby, are trying to impose a foreign policy course on the country's leadership that goes against India's long-term interests,” the Russian scholar who closely follows India's political scene told The Hindu. Prof. Volodin sees this trend as part of an ongoing struggle in the Indian elite between advocates and opponents of the foreign policy tradition of Jawaharlal Nehru and Indira Gandhi, a struggle aggravated by a general decline in the level of strategic thinking in the Indian foreign policy establishment.

“India's stand on Syria betrays the same lack of strategic foresight as its recent decision to buy in a tender a 20th century fighter plane for 21st century tasks at a time when a fifth-generation platform that India is jointly developing with Russia is in the pipeline.”

Five years ago, Mr. Putin, then President, placed India along with Russia and China in an exclusive club of world powers that “can afford the luxury of genuine sovereignty”. As he prepares to reclaim presidency, Mr. Putin has again invoked the issue of sovereignty in foreign policy.

“Everything we do will be based on our own interests and goals, not on decisions other countries impose on us … Russia has practically always had the privilege of pursuing an independent foreign policy and this is how it will be in the future,” Mr. Putin wrote in his election manifesto.

“Syria has put to the test the ability of countries to take sovereign decisions,” says Prof. Volodin. “Russia and China have passed the test; India, unfortunately, has not.”
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This is from Hindu.

And look at the trend of recent defence procurments. Tells otherwise.The official word 'diversification' .Like I said the same mistakes that Mao made.

 

[MohitV]

The only mistake is that your govt is making it very easy for us to annex India.

yeah n do come for a cup of tea at my house....dude by the way....our military ties with russia worth billions of dollars...like the fgfa gorshkhov etc etc....russia is still our largest exporter of weapons n we are russia's fav customers...... so the falling apart of our military ties with russia will surely take a lot of time...

 

[sinocommander]

yeah n do come for a cup of tea at my house....dude by the way....our military ties with russia worth billions of dollars...like the fgfa gorshkhov etc etc....russia is still our largest exporter of weapons n we are russia's fav customers...... so the falling apart of our military ties with russia will surely take a lot of time...

look at the recent trend of buys.T-90 deal delayed.Nuclear reactor deal delayed. Not a single big order to russians.Its good trend.

I totally support.At the same time,Russians are trying to bring in brazilians as investors in Pak fa program.

Look at the sino-soviet split happened in 4-5 years. Almost all our equipment was russian too.

Time for indo-russia split.

 

[kaykay]

its delayed and not cancelled. Some nagotiations and deal would be signed as its a big deal.

 

[MohitV]

look at the recent trend of buys.T-90 deal delayed.Nuclear reactor deal delayed. Not a single big order to russians.Its good trend.

I totally support.At the same time,Russians are trying to bring in brazilians as investors in Pak fa program.

Look at the sino-soviet split happened in 4-5 years. Almost all our equipment was russian too.

Time for indo-russia split.

cheers

 

[illusion8]

We don't eye Russian territories. Those are wet dreams of Hong kong and young chinese ultranationalists. No way we will pick a fight with Russia.



“India's stand on Syria came as a surprise to the Kremlin,” says Prof. Andrei Volodin of the Russian Foreign Ministry's Diplomatic Academy. He thinks it is shortsighted on the part of India to cast its lot with the U.S., whose global power is declining, and with conservative Gulf monarchies, which are historically doomed. But he admits that India's Syria stand falls into a trend.

“Some upper echelons in the Ministry of External Affairs, alarmed by China's fast rise and backed by the U.S. Indian community and a corporate lobby, are trying to impose a foreign policy course on the country's leadership that goes against India's long-term interests,” the Russian scholar who closely follows India's political scene told The Hindu. Prof. Volodin sees this trend as part of an ongoing struggle in the Indian elite between advocates and opponents of the foreign policy tradition of Jawaharlal Nehru and Indira Gandhi, a struggle aggravated by a general decline in the level of strategic thinking in the Indian foreign policy establishment.

“India's stand on Syria betrays the same lack of strategic foresight as its recent decision to buy in a tender a 20th century fighter plane for 21st century tasks at a time when a fifth-generation platform that India is jointly developing with Russia is in the pipeline.”

Five years ago, Mr. Putin, then President, placed India along with Russia and China in an exclusive club of world powers that “can afford the luxury of genuine sovereignty”. As he prepares to reclaim presidency, Mr. Putin has again invoked the issue of sovereignty in foreign policy.

“Everything we do will be based on our own interests and goals, not on decisions other countries impose on us … Russia has practically always had the privilege of pursuing an independent foreign policy and this is how it will be in the future,” Mr. Putin wrote in his election manifesto.

“Syria has put to the test the ability of countries to take sovereign decisions,” says Prof. Volodin. “Russia and China have passed the test; India, unfortunately, has not.”
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This is from Hindu.

And look at the trend of recent defence procurments. Tells otherwise.The official word 'diversification' .Like I said the same mistakes that Mao made.




We don't eye Russian territories. Those are wet dreams of Hong kong and young chinese ultranationalists. No way we will pick a fight with Russia.



“India's stand on Syria came as a surprise to the Kremlin,” says Prof. Andrei Volodin of the Russian Foreign Ministry's Diplomatic Academy. He thinks it is shortsighted on the part of India to cast its lot with the U.S., whose global power is declining, and with conservative Gulf monarchies, which are historically doomed. But he admits that India's Syria stand falls into a trend.

“Some upper echelons in the Ministry of External Affairs, alarmed by China's fast rise and backed by the U.S. Indian community and a corporate lobby, are trying to impose a foreign policy course on the country's leadership that goes against India's long-term interests,” the Russian scholar who closely follows India's political scene told The Hindu. Prof. Volodin sees this trend as part of an ongoing struggle in the Indian elite between advocates and opponents of the foreign policy tradition of Jawaharlal Nehru and Indira Gandhi, a struggle aggravated by a general decline in the level of strategic thinking in the Indian foreign policy establishment.

“India's stand on Syria betrays the same lack of strategic foresight as its recent decision to buy in a tender a 20th century fighter plane for 21st century tasks at a time when a fifth-generation platform that India is jointly developing with Russia is in the pipeline.”

Five years ago, Mr. Putin, then President, placed India along with Russia and China in an exclusive club of world powers that “can afford the luxury of genuine sovereignty”. As he prepares to reclaim presidency, Mr. Putin has again invoked the issue of sovereignty in foreign policy.

“Everything we do will be based on our own interests and goals, not on decisions other countries impose on us … Russia has practically always had the privilege of pursuing an independent foreign policy and this is how it will be in the future,” Mr. Putin wrote in his election manifesto.

“Syria has put to the test the ability of countries to take sovereign decisions,” says Prof. Volodin. “Russia and China have passed the test; India, unfortunately, has not.”
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This is from Hindu.

And look at the trend of recent defence procurments. Tells otherwise.The official word 'diversification' .Like I said the same mistakes that Mao made.

India and Russia have said the Syrian issue could be settled only through political means.
According to a joint statement issued on the 14th India-Russia Annual Summit following the talks of Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Russian President Vladimir V. Putin, both sides expressed the strong belief that the crisis in Syria should not be resolved by force, and could be settled only through political means.
The statement by both countries further expressed support for the early convening of an International Conference on Syria (Geneva-II), to take forward the Geneva-I Communiqu{ adopted in June 2012, which will bring all parties to the conflict to the negotiating table. The Indian side commended Russias role in working towards a diplomatic solution to the Syrian conflict, the statement said.
The statement stressed Russia and India support the process of placing Syrias chemical weapons under international control and their destruction.

KUNA : India, Russia want Syrian crisis settlement through political means - Politics - 21/10/2013

India has supported the Russian proposal to keep Syrian stockpiles of chemical weapons in safe custody while pointing out that its two main postulates — no to military intervention and move toward a political settlement, possibly with a Geneva-II conference — remained unchanged.

In its standard formulation, India said it would prefer acknowledged chemical weapons stockpiles to be destroyed and, pending their elimination, to be kept in safe custody.

“If there are any proposals which are moving in this direction, then obviously India will see it as a positive development,” said spokesperson in the External Affairs Ministry Syed Akbaruddin on Tuesday.

The Indian stand has been spelt out in considerable detail over the past few days. First by the Foreign Office a week back when it categorically ruling out a military solution to the conflict and supported the move to hold an international conference on Syria (Geneva-II) involving the Syrian government and various opposition factions.

India supports Russia

As I said before citing an example check out that your cr@p is real or not.

Russian General: China Is a Potential Enemy
Posted by Yevgeny Bendersky at 7:41 AM
Newly appointed Chief of Staff of the Russian Land Forces, Lieutenant-General Sergey Skokov, recently made a statement that caused a major sensation across the Russian Federation. Speaking about possible conflicts that Russia may face in the future, he outlined three distinct scenarios: fighting in the "western, southern" and eastern" directions.

In the west, Russia may face an innovative, high-tech enemy with "contact-less" modes of fighting - read, the NATO alliance. In the south, Russia faces "irregular formations that conduct guerrilla-style warfare." And in the east, "it could be a millions-strong army that fights along traditional, conventional tactics, with high levels of concentration of manpower and firepower at specific directions."

General Skokov did not actually name China in his speech, but it is important to point out that there is no other army in the "east" that can field millions of soldiers, except China's People's Liberation Army. In this light, the general's statements are nothing short of extraordinary. They mark the first time since the 1980s that China is singled out as a potential - and real - adversary by Russia.

http://www.realclearworld.com/blog/2009/12/russian_general_china_is_a_pot.html