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OCCUPIED SRINAGAR (June 13 2009): India is to phase out the controversial presence of large numbers of its troops in occupied Kashmir, the country's home minister announced on Friday. Such a move would be the first time the armed forces have been pulled out of urban areas in the disputed region since an insurgency against Indian rule broke out in 1989.

The announcement also comes amid sustained protests over last month's suspected rape and murder of two local Muslim women, allegedly by members of the Indian security forces. Home Minister P. Chidambaran told a news conference in occupied Srinagar, where he has been conducting an urgent review of security, that the army should carry out counter-insurgency operations "far away from towns and cities."

"In the inhabited areas we believe maintaining law and order is the primary responsibility of the state police," he said. India has not officially disclosed how many troops and paramilitaries it has in its part of Kashmir, but they are thought to number up to 500,000.

Chidambaran did not give a timetable for the redeployment of troops, or the numbers involved, but said: "It will take some time. That is the direction in which we have agreed to move and we will move." He said the decision was made because militant violence inside occupied Kashmir had dropped, but infiltration's along the Line of Control - which divides Kashmir between India and Pakistan - were continuing.
 
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After rapping and killing women, India still dreaming about holding control of this territory . Well Indian army should stay in jungle and city premises. But longer they stay in Kashmir more it provide the fuel to freedom fire. Good job India should bring more army in Kashmir. Huge the army early the freedom.
 
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OCCUPIED SRINAGAR (June 13 2009): India is to phase out the controversial presence of large numbers of its troops in occupied Kashmir, the country's home minister announced on Friday. Such a move would be the first time the armed forces have been pulled out of urban areas in the disputed region since an insurgency against Indian rule broke out in 1989.

The announcement also comes amid sustained protests over last month's suspected rape and murder of two local Muslim women, allegedly by members of the Indian security forces. Home Minister P. Chidambaran told a news conference in occupied Srinagar, where he has been conducting an urgent review of security, that the army should carry out counter-insurgency operations "far away from towns and cities."

"In the inhabited areas we believe maintaining law and order is the primary responsibility of the state police," he said. India has not officially disclosed how many troops and paramilitaries it has in its part of Kashmir, but they are thought to number up to 500,000.

Chidambaran did not give a timetable for the redeployment of troops, or the numbers involved, but said: "It will take some time. That is the direction in which we have agreed to move and we will move." He said the decision was made because militant violence inside occupied Kashmir had dropped, but infiltration's along the Line of Control - which divides Kashmir between India and Pakistan - were continuing.

Terror attacks inside Jammu & Kashmir have dropped considerably(thanks to the IA), though infiltration from across the border hasn't. That's why the primary responsibility of maintaining law and order in the towns and cities have been given back to the J&K police.
 
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Good, all along India has said that the army will be pulled back once the issue becomes a police issue and not a military one. Good move.

Some credit goes to musharraf, and some blame too by the same logic.
 
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Good move. People will find it peaceful from now on.

But about Neo's article, 5,00,000 soldiers in Kashmir???!!! Are you kidding me?
 
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Good move. People will find it peaceful from now on.

But about Neo's article, 5,00,000 soldiers in Kashmir???!!! Are you kidding me?

5,00,000 soldiers is pure exaggeration. The number is approximately 2,80,000 in the entire state of J&K, of these nearly 1,30,000 troops are present on the LoC & the International Border.The rest are present in Jammu, Ladakh and Kashmir; with kashmir and jammu regions accounting for the majority due to counter insurgency role.
 
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5,00,000 soldiers is pure exaggeration. The number is approximately 2,80,000 in the entire state of J&K, of these nearly 1,30,000 troops are present on the LoC & the International Border.The rest are present in Jammu, Ladakh and Kashmir; with kashmir and jammu regions accounting for the majority due to counter insurgency role.
neo is right...i have done the math...there are indeed 500,000 troops in kashmir on an average.
kashmir is a testing ground for the forces...they love sending the newbies there...
 
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neo is right...i have done the math...there are indeed 500,000 troops in kashmir on an average.
kashmir is a testing ground for the forces...they love sending the newbies there...

Care to elaborate? The Indian Army is nearly 1million strong, if 5,00,000 of those where stationed just in Kashmir, that leaves just 5,00,000 troops to cover Punjab, Rajasthan, Gujrat, Jammu, Ladakh and the entire Indo-China border (which is not small by any means) and counter insurgency operations in the North East, which is hardly adequate.
 
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Care to elaborate? The Indian Army is nearly 1million strong, if 5,00,000 of those where stationed just in Kashmir, that leaves just 5,00,000 troops to cover Punjab, Rajasthan, Gujrat, Jammu, Ladakh and the entire Indo-China border (which is not small by any means) and counter insurgency operations in the North East, which is hardly adequate.

some army guy confirmed it...(he did some complicated math)
anyway...just google '500,000 indian soldiers kashmir'...and you'd get some good neutral links
 
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Good move. People will find it peaceful from now on.

But about Neo's article, 5,00,000 soldiers in Kashmir???!!! Are you kidding me?

Read again, it says: India has not officially disclosed how many troops and paramilitaries it has in its part of Kashmir, but they are thought to number up to 500,000.:coffee:
 
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Care to elaborate? The Indian Army is nearly 1million strong, if 5,00,000 of those where stationed just in Kashmir, that leaves just 5,00,000 troops to cover Punjab, Rajasthan, Gujrat, Jammu, Ladakh and the entire Indo-China border (which is not small by any means) and counter insurgency operations in the North East, which is hardly adequate.

Thats what I thought...
half in just Kashmir??:what:
 
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some army guy confirmed it...(he did some complicated math)

This is just to vague. I have two of my schoolmates serving in J&K at the moment and they say the figure is more like 2,80,000 and that too in the entire state and just not kashmir.

anyway...just google '500,000 indian soldiers kashmir'...and you'd get some good neutral links

Googled it. I don't find the links convincing, even they are playing the guessing game and that's not good enough.
 
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Looking at the voter turnaround in the state assembly poles and comparitive calmness in the valey in the recent times, this one, if true, is a great trust building move. It will work wonders for both the central as well as the state government as far as winning common people's trust. The army and other paramilitary forces should now only shift focus to cut all terror supply lines (For me, it should concentrate all across India's border, rather then only LOC and other borders with Pakistan).

Also, if GOI actually considers the main land to be peaceful enough to be left to the state police, I think rehabilation of the displaced people from the region may also be looked into soon.

During my school days, I have seen life with army deployment in my state and I can vouch that it is never good. Army is meant for border areas and for war and they should always be there only (unless etra-ordinary situations like massive terrosism like Kashmir in the late 80s and SWAT/ NEFP recently).
 
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This is just to vague. I have two of my schoolmates serving in J&K at the moment and they say the figure is more like 2,80,000 and that too in the entire state and just not kashmir.



Googled it. I don't find the links convincing, even they are playing the guessing game and that's not good enough.

well the fugure is a rough estimate...maybe your frind's quoted figure is much more accurate...i will try to talk to the guy and get you the technical math.
 
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