India, Pakistan enmity main reason why SAARC is not prospering: Bangladesh FM

[Dark-Destroyer]

What is saarc?

A dirty sock

Dude I say Indian Hindu culture is the same as Pakistani Muslim culture?

All I said that it is closer to Pakistani culture than the totally alien Chinese culture. Ample proof is supplied by the popularity of Bollywood in Pakistan. Does any Pakistani have any interest in Chinese culture?

China may give you some cheap military goodies and soft loans to build infrastructure but this will not replace the say 10 US billion dollars a year that Pakistan get pretty much right now by having normal relations with India.
India may be a poor 2,200 US dollar per capita country but it has nearly 1.4 billion people and is growing at 5-6% a year. It is important in S Asia just because of it's mass.

Why you think that BD is growing so fast? Building up to 8% growth needed to have at least workable relations with India. BD needs an abundance of cheap Indian agricultural goods and also access to their excess electricity production. India will also allow cheap hydroelectric power to flow into BD from Nepal and Bhutan.

Like I said before I mainly blame India for this problems in S Asia but the fact is that without getting along with India, Pakistan cannot achieve anywhere near it's full economic potential. CPEC will not by itself help your economy boom.

Pakistan does not need india Its simple Bangladesh may need india pakistan does not and unless you have forgotten about the 130+ day curfew on fellow muslim Kashmiris more so a reason not to want anything to do with the 5hit show next door CPEC will make a huge diffrence you just wont see it yet everything takes time

 

[hussain0216]

Hate Indians

Hate afghanis

Hate Bengalis

We should never get out of Saarc , just so we can fcuk it up

Our enemies are inside it and we need to partake for our own interests

Afghanistan is a dump and will remain a dump, seal the border, hunt down every dirty afghani in the country and kick it out

India is burning as we speak, Kashmiris hate Indians more than EVER and even the Indian Muslims realise JINNAH was right
Let hindutva create insurmountable social divisions in India and let them all suffer the consequences including Indian Muslims for the sin of supporting India and insulting Jinnah and Pakistan

Bangladesh is a dump, it is having a short term economic bump that's all, it's surrounded by enemies, and the forces of nature are against it
Reality will catch up with it one way or the other and we can enjoy their demise as punishment for their treachery in 1971


These nations are our enemies and we need to be aware of that and care for ourselves and seek ways to cause them damage

 

[UKBengali]

A dirty sock



Pakistan does not need india Its simple Bangladesh may need india pakistan does not and unless you have forgotten about the 130+ day curfew on fellow muslim Kashmiris more so a reason not to want anything to do with the 5hit show next door CPEC will make a huge diffrence you just wont see it yet everything takes time

Yes you do as such a large neighbour can never be replaced.

Pakistan can currently earn big money two ways - agricultural exports and tourism and for both you need India.

Chinese populations centres are too distant(food exports will be expensive due to transportation costs) and their totally alien culture will mean that very few Chinese tourists will visit Pakistan.


PS - Of course India is to blame over Kashmir but the simple fact is that Pakistan needs India way more than India needs Pakistan

Bangladesh is a dump, it is having a short term economic bump that's all, it's surrounded by enemies, and the forces of nature are against it
Reality will catch up with it one way or the other and we can enjoy their demise as punishment for their treachery in 1971

OK BD may be a "dump' currently but Pakistan is not much better. At least BD is progressing upwards.

Care to explain how BD is having a "short term economic bump"?

It has been growing at 6% or over since 2000 and all the ingredients for sustained growth are there - political stability, high infrastructure spending and low government debt.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Pakistan should leave saarc asap

Pak is one of the founders of SAARC.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Yes you do as such a large neighbour can never be replaced.

Pakistan can currently earn big money two ways - agricultural exports and tourism and for both you need India.

Chinese populations centres are too distant(food exports will be expensive due to transportation costs) and their totally alien culture will mean that very few Chinese tourists will visit Pakistan.


PS - Of course India is to blame over Kashmir but the simple fact is that Pakistan needs India way more than India needs Pakistan




OK BD may be a "dump' currently but Pakistan is not much better. At least BD is progressing upwards.

Care to explain how BD is having a "short term economic bump"?

It has been growing at 6% or over since 2000 and all the ingredients for sustained growth are there - political stability, high infrastructure spending and low government debt.

For bangladesh, india can't be replaced. But for Pakistan it can. We have done it for over 72 years, why stop now? We are not a client state of india wheras bangladesh is:

https://thediplomat.com/2016/10/bangladesh-just-became-a-vassal-state/

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Yes you do as such a large neighbour can never be replaced.

Pakistan can currently earn big money two ways - agricultural exports and tourism and for both you need India.

Chinese populations centres are too distant(food exports will be expensive due to transportation costs) and their totally alien culture will mean that very few Chinese tourists will visit Pakistan.


PS - Of course India is to blame over Kashmir but the simple fact is that Pakistan needs India way more than India needs Pakistan




OK BD may be a "dump' currently but Pakistan is not much better. At least BD is progressing upwards.

Care to explain how BD is having a "short term economic bump"?

It has been growing at 6% or over since 2000 and all the ingredients for sustained growth are there - political stability, high infrastructure spending and low government debt.

Are you retarded? The trade volume between india and Pak is hardly 2 billion.

That said, its in favour of india, with Pak exporting only 350 million worth to india.

https://www.samaa.tv/news/2019/02/indias-trade-war-with-pakistan-may-cost-it-1-8b/



So no, unlike you we are not dependent on india.

As for China, yeah sure but you seem to forget Pak borders western China which is still under development compared to south & thus provides a great population and we are already exporting agri, textile etc to them.

Even if we export nothing (hypothetically speaking), in the coming years our revenue from taxing goods imports & transit fees alone will be in dozens of billions.

As for tourism? Again use your grey matter. Pak mostly provides visas to Sikh pilgrims and chances of Pak gettin an indian visa or bharti getting a Pak visa are slim to none.

Chinese again make one of the largest visitor groups in Pak.

2017, report:


https://www.dawn.com/news/1403800


https://propakistani.pk/2019/10/24/...ceive-100-million-investment-from-the-us/amp/

 

[Valar.]

Pakistan does not allow India and Bangladesh to do trade with Afghanistan. It has restricted the to and fro transactions between these countries.

India wants to trade with Afghanistan through state of the art Pakistani highways but does not want to pay tax and allow Pakistan to check their trucks. Also wants Indian trucks with Indian drivers to pass from Lahore to Afghanistan which Pakistan does not allow. What happens is that they dump their cargo at border and we pick up and transport it to Afghanistan either by us or by Afghans. Afghanistan on the other hand is allowed to travel all the way to Lahore.

If India wants connectivity to Afghanistan then they need to give us the same connectivity to Nepal.

Second way is Karachi seaport. From where goods are transported to Afganistan. This is where the real trade takes place. Almost all of Afghans exports come to Karachi and then get shipped to the world where ever they want.

Now, coming to Bangladesh. BD is allowed to export their products through Karachi and Afghans are also allowed to export their products from Karachi to BD. Unless, BD wants to send it's products through non existence highways of India all the way from Bangladesh. Which is stupid and as far as I know this topic never came up in spotlight.

Last but not the least, BD's biggest exports are textile mostly western clothing destined to western world and little bit local dresses like sarees destined to India, both of which have no demand in Afghanistan. Unless, BD wants to sell them something else, they are welcome through Karachi. Afghans are always welcome to trade through Karachi to Bangladesh.

PS: No idea why would some Bangladeshis would speak like Indians, that too senior citizens/members. Very disappointing.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

First I would advise you to grow up. After that come here for discussion.

The sorry state Pakistan is in right now, I must say it’s because of bunch of delusional bunch like you. You consider yourself same as Iranian but do they consider the same like you? May be Iranians in ancients time passed by your territory and left their foot print there. I hope you do understand what I meant. They never had intension to treat you the same. Just for example Saudi Arabia ban marriage between Saudi man with Pakistani woman. You are nothing more than miskin or slave to them. Don’t overestimate yourself barh and humiliate yourself!

Reported to MODS for severe anti-Pakistani racism.

@waz @Dubious @The Eagle @WAJsal @Horus @Irfan Baloch

 

[Kaniska]

Pakistan feels that they are not a South Asian country...India has multiple options to have a trade route bypassing Pakistan except for Central Asia...So eventually SAARC is a useless organization that should die as soon as possible.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

@waz @Dubious @The Eagle @Horus @WAJsal @Irfan Baloch

Please read this bigots posts in this thread! As he already tagged all of you, please take appropriate measures against him and if possible ban him for racism, insult against nation, it’s population and promoting bigotry.

He behaving like a kid in a forum where only matured persons are supposed to post.

Thanks in advance!

@waz @The Eagle @Dubious @Horus @WAJsal @Irfan Baloch

Please read this bigots severe anti-Pakistani racism in nearly all his posts on PDF. Read his anti-Pakistani insults. Please take appropriate action for this trolls racism towards the Pakistani race. He needs a permanent ban.

 

[Black_cats]

@waz @The Eagle @Dubious @Horus @WAJsal @Irfan Baloch

Please read this bigots severe anti-Pakistani racism in nearly all his posts on PDF. Read his anti-Pakistani insults. Please take appropriate action for this trolls racism towards the Pakistani race. He needs a permanent ban.

Please grow up first before coming for discussion in a matured forum. My small advice to you

 

[waz]

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[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Please grow up first before coming for discussion in a matured forum. My small advice to you

Don't need advice from you or your kind. You can always bugger off to a bangladeshi forum. No one is forcing you to stay on PDF. THIS IS a Pakistani forum after all. You can exit from here like the indians have done.

 

[waz]

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