India, Pakistan, China, Russia have stake in Afghanistan's stable future: Joe Biden.

[KurtisBrian]

Lol that is precisely what happened prior...when USSR was there...they armed Afghans...and the Mujahideen were armed by US, KSA, Pak, etc.
...then all that stuff was left in their hands...and things turned chaotic...they had a civil war.

then that it not the same. not arming anyone. leaving equipment and machines is not leaving guns and missiles (those can easily be flown out).

 

[Kingslayerr]

1. Hahhahahahhahahhaha this is nothing compared to what Pak has done and still doing in Afghanistan and for afghans in terms of development. But im not gonna name projects like you did for dick measuring competition and also projects or no projects still we are 100% more important partner for afghanistan then you'll ever be. Afghanistan lives due to Pakistan thats something you dont even understand.
And you just proved my point of india sponsoring terrorism under the banner of development.
2. Your influence is such low that America has to make you relevant by pushing talibans and others to have ties with you. And BTW how are you going to have even a little say in Afg After there'll be no ghani to amrullah?
3. The hatred afghanistan have for Pakistan is something that has been going on since 1947, that's neither new nor due to WOT. You need to understand Afghanistan which clearly you do not like most indians. Cheers!!.

This situation I can explain As - Afghanistan forcefully married to Pakistan because of geography limitation but they love to India without any conditions.

India has done a wonderful job by doing development work in Afghanistan.


(1) The building of Afghanistan’s Parliament in Kabul (the complex includes a library, so in that sense India did build a library in the country).
(2) The restoration of the Stor palace in the same city.
(3) Rebuilding of the Habibia High School, also in the capital, and providing it with grants-in-aid.
(4) Reconstruction of the Salma dam, now known as the Afghan-India Friendship Dam.
(5) The establishment of an electricity transmission line from Pul-e-Khumri to Kabul.
(6) Reconstructing the Indira Gandhi Institute for Child Health/Indira Gandhi Children’s Hospital in Kabul (which had also been built with India’s help decades ago) and supporting it in many ways.
(7) financing the establishment of the Afghan National Agriculture Sciences and Technology University (ANASTU) in Kandahar and assisting it in various ways.
(8) constructing the Chimtala power substation in Kabul.
(9) building the cricket stadium in Kandahar.
(10) building a cold storage warehouse in the same city.
(11) upgrading telephone exchanges in some provinces.
(12) expanding the national television network.
(13) digging tube wells in some of the provinces.
(14) reportedly rehabilitating three water reservoirs.
(15) establishing five toilet and sanitation complexes in Kabul.
(16) Zaranj-Delaram road,
(17) hundreds of smaller, less visible and harder to trace projects, including community development ones. The completed ones include dozens of schools and basic health clinics: check the report here for lists and maps. (I can’t find a library there.) Even here, however, charity meets pragmatism: the large projects were often realized in the area of the capital or the safer northern and western parts of the country, while many of the small projects were earlier spread across the Pashtun borderlands, thereby directly challenging Pakistan’s influences in this zone (see also the map in the report linked above).
(18) hundreds of buses for the Kabul transportation system.
(19) 285 military vehicles for the Afghan National Army.
(20) Mi-25 and Mi-35 choppers for the air force.
(21) 10 ambulances for public hospitals in five cities.
(22) Airbus aircraft for the national airlines.
(23) materials for substations and a transmission line in the Faryab province.
(24) high protein biscuits for Afghan schoolchildren.
(25) shipments of wheat and pulses.
(26) funds to an Afghan Red Crescent Society program.
(27) free medicine and medical consultations in its medical missions in five Afghan cities.
(28) Afghan public institutions with technical advisers.
(29) training for Afghan public servants and policemen.
(30) hundreds of scholarships for Afghan students; vocational courses for Afghan youth
(31) lets Afghanistan’s national cricket team use an Indian stadium as its home ground.

1. Hahhahahahhahahhaha this is nothing compared to what Pak has done and still doing in Afghanistan and for afghans in terms of development. But im not gonna name projects like you did for dick measuring competition and also projects or no projects still we are 100% more important partner for afghanistan then you'll ever be. Afghanistan lives due to Pakistan thats something you dont even understand.
And you just proved my point of india sponsoring terrorism under the banner of development.
2. Your influence is such low that America has to make you relevant by pushing talibans and others to have ties with you. And BTW how are you going to have even a little say in Afg After there'll be no ghani to amrullah?
3. The hatred afghanistan have for Pakistan is something that has been going on since 1947, that's neither new nor due to WOT. You need to understand Afghanistan which clearly you do not like most indians. Cheers!!.

 

[CrazyZ]

Oh you frustrated little pakistani I was talking about a common Afghan not factions. They have a favourable opinion of us while you people are hated. This is why Afghans attack and beat up Pakistanis during cricket matches overseas for what you have done to their country.

Pakistan did not bomb Afghanistan into the stone age. First it was the USSR (supported by India). Then it was the USA (supported by India). Nor did Pakistan force a bunch of bacha baz warlords to fight amongst themselves.

 

[Kingslayerr]

Oh you frustrated little pakistani I was talking about a common Afghan not factions. They have a favourable opinion of us while you people are hated. This is why Afghans attack and beat up Pakistanis during cricket matches overseas for what you have done to their country.

So you're saying that WOT is the reason afghans are frustrated over pak which started 2 dacades ago? Clearly you have little to no idea how hatred of afghans towards Pak works. Afghanistan hatred towards Pak goes back to 1947 due to partition and their claim over pakistani territory. Its not due to WOT. Stop making things up.

 

[Capt. Karnage]

Pakistan did not bomb Afghanistan into the stone age. First it was the USSR (supported by India). Then it was the USA (supported by India). Nor did Pakistan force a bunch of bacha baz warlords to fight amongst themselves.

Nope you did not bombed, but talibaned Afghanistan to stone age. It used to be a modern and progressive society under the Soviet influence and then you and Americans showed up and plunged the country into a civil war. Now there is death and destruction everywhere.

 

[Jobless Jack]

Yes India does have stake in this

I suggest India send at least a corps size formation to protect the govt in kabul.

 

[KurtisBrian]

Nope you did not bombed, but talibaned Afghanistan to stone age. It used to be a modern and progressive society under the Soviet influence and then you and Americans showed up and plunged the country into a civil war. Now there is death and destruction everywhere.

Perhaps to them that is advancement and doing more for Afghanistan. Certain people want to bring their kind of life, that kind of life, to everyone on the planet. Towards that goal they migrate/creep into the lands of others slowly bringing their beliefs.

Thing is anybody can beg or destroy. It is difficult to create. More difficult to sustain/maintain. Also almost impossible to try and live with or tolerate those we despise. Hence the tribes were separated.

 

[CrazyZ]

Nope you did not bombed, but talibaned Afghanistan to stone age. It used to be a modern and progressive society under the Soviet influence and then you and Americans showed up and plunged the country into a civil war. Now there is death and destruction everywhere.

Taliban were a byproduct of situation inside Afghanistan. Lawless bacha baz warlords run amok. Pakistan did not create the Taliban.

 

[Dalit]

India is loved in Afghanistan and Pakistan is hated because we are involved in development activities and not terrorism.

It won't take long for Pakistan to change that perception. Naturally the Afghans are ruled by a puppet regime installed by the US/NATO. Ghani and Karzai aren't elected leaders. They were imported and planted by the US/NATO. Such so-called leaders have biased affinity towards Hindustan. That is about to change drastically. Once Pakistan allows China access to Afghanistan their fortunes will change in an instant. China will get the raw materials and Afghanistan the much needed dollars. All of that will be made possible through Pakistan. India cannot provide 1% of what China can give to Afghanistan.

Even if Afghan perception remains negative towards Pakistan their demeanor will have to change. Afghanistan is a landlocked nation. Afghanistan fully relies on Pakistan. Once the Afghans realise that playing nice with Pakistan is in their benefit you can expect a much more friendly Afghan attitude towards Pakistan. Frankly, we don't care about Afghan attitude towards Pakistan. It makes no difference. We have what we want. Now we seek more and we will get it through regional cooperation.

Let the Americans move out. India will beg for economical Pak route to Afghanistan, but won't get anything. You will be proved wrong as usual.

 

[vostok]

I wonder how long the US imposed regime will last without American troops. Socialist government of Mohammad Najibullah lasted for 3 years. And may be it could still be in power if USSR have not collapsed and supplies of weapons, fuel etc. were not stopped.

 

[CrazyZ]

I wonder how long the US imposed regime will last without American troops. Socialist government of Mohammad Najibullah lasted for 3 years. And may be it could still be in power if USSR have not collapsed and supplies of weapons, fuel etc. were not stopped.

Probably the new strategy for some in the USA. Continue to back the regime in Kabul enough that it will hold the Taliban at bay. The main issue is that Kabul regime could collapse on its own. Last two elections could have degenerated into factional fighting if the USA didn't force a compromise.

Also look at some other new governments created by westerns powers...East Timor and South Sudan. After much hype by western activists....both countries degenerated into factional fighting and instability (no one in the western press even talks about them anymore). Same is highly possible in Kabul (not even factoring in the Taliban).

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

1. Hahhahahahhahahhaha this is nothing compared to what Pak has done and still doing in Afghanistan and for afghans in terms of development. But im not gonna name projects like you did for dick measuring competition and also projects or no projects still we are 100% more important partner for afghanistan then you'll ever be. Afghanistan lives due to Pakistan thats something you dont even understand.
And you just proved my point of india sponsoring terrorism under the banner of development.
2. Your influence is such low that America has to make you relevant by pushing talibans and others to have ties with you. And BTW how are you going to have even a little say in Afg After there'll be no ghani to amrullah?
3. The hatred afghanistan have for Pakistan is something that has been going on since 1947, that's neither new nor due to WOT. You need to understand Afghanistan which clearly you do not like most indians. Cheers!!.

1. Hahhahahahhahahhaha this is nothing compared to what Pak has done and still doing in Afghanistan and for afghans in terms of development. But im not gonna name projects like you did for dick measuring competition and also projects or no projects still we are 100% more important partner for afghanistan then you'll ever be. Afghanistan lives due to Pakistan thats something you dont even understand.
And you just proved my point of india sponsoring terrorism under the banner of development.
2. Your influence is such low that America has to make you relevant by pushing talibans and others to have ties with you. And BTW how are you going to have even a little say in Afg After there'll be no ghani to amrullah?
3. The hatred afghanistan have for Pakistan is something that has been going on since 1947, that's neither new nor due to WOT. You need to understand Afghanistan which clearly you do not like most indians. Cheers!!.

What development has done???

1. Provided US military items during the cold WAR against the soviet and hosted Taliban militants (Militants called by UN) in Pakistan.
2. Tried to control Afghanistan by supporting the Taliban during the 1990s as a backyard.
3. Supported the US against the Taliban after 2001...

If you host the Talibani then "Talibani children can go to USA for study"? NO, If you want something then need to give something! I don't think any favor done by Pakistan to Afghanistan in the past years.

Would be better if Pakistan has done as same as Iran or china.

Unfortunately for Afghanistan that due to geographical limitations and boundaries, They are dependent on Pakistan and Iran.