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UNITED NATIONS: Pakistan and India have wasted “massive resources” on a nuclear arms race, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif said Friday ahead of a landmark meeting with his Indian counterpart.

Sharif said he was looking forward to meeting with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh to “make a new beginning” in the relationship between the South Asian nuclear rivals.

“Our two countries have wasted massive resources in an arms race,” the premier told the UN General Assembly. “We could have used those resources for the economic well-being of our people,” he added.

Despite clashes in disputed Kashmir this week, Sharif is expected to meet with Singh on Sunday, on the sidelines of the annual gathering of world leaders at the UN.

Both sides have spent huge amounts on developing a nuclear bomb over the past three decades.

It will be their first meeting since Sharif was re-elected in May – his third term as premier, but first since he was ousted in a 1999 coup.

Sharif told the General Assembly it was a ''new dawn'' for Pakistan.

“We still have that opportunity. Pakistan and India can prosper together; and the entire region would benefit from our cooperation.”

Sharif said: “We stand ready to re-engage with India in a substantive and purposeful dialogue.”

He said he was looking forward to the chance “to make a new beginning” and added “we have a solid basis to do that”. Sharif said Pakistan and India must build on a 1999 accord which called for the resolution of all differences through negotiations.

“I am committed to working for a peaceful and economically prosperous region. This is what our people want and this is what I have long aspired for,” Sharif said.

He also urged the US to stop drones strikes in Pakistan.

On top of being nuclear rivals, the two countries have disputed the Himalayan region of Kashmir since 1947.

New clashes erupted again this week in the region, split between the two, in a gradual build-up since an ambush in August in which five Indian soldiers were killed on the unofficial border.

India blamed the Pakistan army for the attack, a charge that Islamabad denied.

Terrorism: ‘Dialogue must not be seen as tool of appeasement’

In his wide-ranging address to the UN General Assembly, which received a warm round of applause, the prime minister said Pakistan has suffered grievously in the face of terrorism and is firmly opposed to all forms and manifestations of terror and would also explore dialogue to end militancy.

He, however, underlined that the dialogue should not be seen as a tool of appeasement.

Prime Minister Sharif said in the past 12 years, Pakistan has given huge sacrifices, in blood and resources.

“We have lost 40,000 precious lives of men, women and children, which include 8,000 defence and security personnel. There have been colossal damages to social and physical infrastructure as well. Our economy has been denied the opportunity to grow fully.”

“This must change now. I have tried to forge national consensus on a cohesive policy to eliminate terrorism from our soil. For that purpose, I convened an all Parties Conference, which spoke unanimously against terrorism.”

“We are resolved to oppose the forces of terrorism, by all means at our disposal. At the same time, we have offered dialogue to end violence, wean young extremists off extremism, and integrate all segments of our society into the national mainstream.”

“Winning hearts and minds, particularly of the youth, is as important as using guns to deter terrorism. But dialogue should not be seen as a sign of weakness or a tool of appeasement.”

The war against terrorism must be waged within the framework of international law.

Church attack

The prime minister also spoke on the Peshawar church blasts which killed more than 80 people.

“We are deeply saddened by the recent terrorist attack on the members of a minority community in Peshawar. This heinous attack has united the entire Pakistani nation in support of our brothers and sisters of all faiths in Pakistan. We share their grief and declared three days of mourning,” Sharif said. He said the attack was carried out by the same elements that had attacked mosques, shrines, innocent citizens, and members of the security forces. The Peshawar blasts, he said, had further strengthened his government’s resolve to deal with terrorism and extremism in a resolute and comprehensive manner.

“Terrorism knows no borders. It has no religion or creed, which is why maligning a whole people or a religion on this account, is unfair and unwise,” the prime minister said.

“Islam is a religion of peace, compassion and brotherhood.”

Sharif said that although extremism was not specific to any religion, “the most insidious form of contemporary racism in the name of religion is on the rise”.

“Peaceful Muslim communities are profiled and subjected to discriminatory practices. Their faith, culture, holy personalities and scriptures are under attack.”

This stereotyping of Muslims as extremists and terrorists must stop, he warned.

“We must all use the influence and reach of the United Nations to avert a clash of civilisations and promote harmony among followers of diverse religions, all around the world.”

‘US drone strikes’

Declaring the use of armed drones in the border areas of Pakistan a continued violation of its territorial integrity, the premier said it was also detrimental to efforts of the government to eliminate extremism and terrorism from Pakistan.

“I have urged the United States to cease these strikes, so that we could avert further casualties and suffering.”

“Terrorism negates Islam's humanistic outlook and noble values. Those who perpetrate terrorism are enemies of Muslims and Islam itself,” said Sharif.

India-Pakistan arms race ‘massive waste’, says Nawaz - DAWN.COM
 
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He also mentioned about Indo-Pak Nuclear Arms Rivalry(as wastage of resources) and on posting of soldiers in Siachen..

I do agree with the first part,but don't agree that we should recall soldiers from Siachen.
 
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It is about China not Pakistan. There is no arms race between India and Pakistan. But current thing happening in India is bolstering the defence against chinese just in case.

India will build its defence and we have plans for a decade build up.
 
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loot mar, kickbacks, massive tax evasion and fraud, money laundering, hawala transfer all are a big waste
 
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Actually when you nothing in your head (in every aspect) it's very difficult to understand someone is getting ready for a big war.
 
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"muh me ram bagal me chhura" wali kahawat sahi he.
if pakistan really want friendship why it is not ready to give india as most favoured nation in trade.
 
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Terrorism: ‘Dialogue must not be seen as tool of appeasement’

In his wide-ranging address to the UN General Assembly, which received a warm round of applause, the prime minister said Pakistan has suffered grievously in the face of terrorism and is firmly opposed to all forms and manifestations of terror and would also explore dialogue to end militancy.

He, however, underlined that the dialogue should not be seen as a tool of appeasement.

Prime Minister Sharif said in the past 12 years, Pakistan has given huge sacrifices, in blood and resources.

“We have lost 40,000 precious lives of men, women and children, which include 8,000 defence and security personnel. There have been colossal damages to social and physical infrastructure as well. Our economy has been denied the opportunity to grow fully.”

“This must change now. I have tried to forge national consensus on a cohesive policy to eliminate terrorism from our soil. For that purpose, I convened an all Parties Conference, which spoke unanimously against terrorism.”

“We are resolved to oppose the forces of terrorism, by all means at our disposal. At the same time, we have offered dialogue to end violence, wean young extremists off extremism, and integrate all segments of our society into the national mainstream.”

“Winning hearts and minds, particularly of the youth, is as important as using guns to deter terrorism. But dialogue should not be seen as a sign of weakness or a tool of appeasement.”

The war against terrorism must be waged within the framework of international law.

Church attack

The prime minister also spoke on the Peshawar church blasts which killed more than 80 people.

“We are deeply saddened by the recent terrorist attack on the members of a minority community in Peshawar. This heinous attack has united the entire Pakistani nation in support of our brothers and sisters of all faiths in Pakistan. We share their grief and declared three days of mourning,” Sharif said. He said the attack was carried out by the same elements that had attacked mosques, shrines, innocent citizens, and members of the security forces. The Peshawar blasts, he said, had further strengthened his government’s resolve to deal with terrorism and extremism in a resolute and comprehensive manner.

“Terrorism knows no borders. It has no religion or creed, which is why maligning a whole people or a religion on this account, is unfair and unwise,” the prime minister said.

“Islam is a religion of peace, compassion and brotherhood.”

Sharif said that although extremism was not specific to any religion, “the most insidious form of contemporary racism in the name of religion is on the rise”.

“Peaceful Muslim communities are profiled and subjected to discriminatory practices. Their faith, culture, holy personalities and scriptures are under attack.”

This stereotyping of Muslims as extremists and terrorists must stop, he warned.

“We must all use the influence and reach of the United Nations to avert a clash of civilisations and promote harmony among followers of diverse religions, all around the world.”

‘US drone strikes’

Declaring the use of armed drones in the border areas of Pakistan a continued violation of its territorial integrity, the premier said it was also detrimental to efforts of the government to eliminate extremism and terrorism from Pakistan.

“I have urged the United States to cease these strikes, so that we could avert further casualties and suffering.”

“Terrorism negates Islam's humanistic outlook and noble values. Those who perpetrate terrorism are enemies of Muslims and Islam itself,” said Sharif.
 
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India's total Government revenue is around 200 billion, and their defence budget is 46 billion.

The problem is NOT the defence budget being too high, the problem is that India's government revenue is so low.

Why is that? What percentage of the Indian population even pays taxes?
 
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India's total Government revenue is around 200 billion, and their defence budget is 46 billion.

The problem is NOT the defence budget being too high, the problem is that India's government revenue is so low.

Why is that? What percentage of the Indian population even pays taxes?

Does China have income tax ?
 
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India's total Government revenue is around 200 billion, and their defence budget is 46 billion.

The problem is NOT the defence budget being too high, the problem is that India's government revenue is so low.

Why is that? What percentage of the Indian population even pays taxes?

3% of GDP that is out of 1.8 Trillion.

this is not China where stats are faked and defense budget is hidden. Lot of welfare schemes are implemented using lakhs of crores of rupees.

People raising this point should know the fact and also know how silly the point is.
 
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3% of GDP that is out of 1.8 Trillion.

this is not China where stats are faked and defense budget is hidden. Lot of welfare schemes are implemented using lakhs of crores of rupees.

People raising this point should know the fact and also know how silly the point is.

Except the Government does not have access to the total GDP (obviously). :lol: GDP is the total output of the entire country.

They only have access to the Government budget. Which in the case of India is 200 billion.

Does China have income tax ?

Sure.

Taxation in China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Interesting. Even the poor pay tax. But you do not seem to have Sales Tax, service Tax or Excise duty or does VAT cover all that ?

We do have those, check the "types of tax" section.

Anyway, Economic reforms are ongoing. Not just Tax reforms, but the Shanghai Free Trade Zone is opening for the first time tomorrow.
 
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Except the Government does not have access to the total GDP (obviously). :lol: GDP is the total output of the entire country.

They only have access to the Government budget. Which in the case of India is 200 billion.



Sure.

Taxation in China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Rs 14,90,925 crore(approx) is total budget and out of which defense budget is close to 1,90,000 crores.

this is close to 1/7th of expenditure. And out of 1,90,000 crores mojority of them will go to salaries and maintenance.
 
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