India opposes Lanka seeking arms from Pak

[joey]

Bull tell can we buy this argument of going to sleep by SL personnels?

From Official government Press Briefing.

The LTTE had made air strikes more than once.

ooooooooo And in the same airbases? How many radars were there? (nos - 2) , where were they installed? and where they bombed in second time?

No millitary man can believe that after one air attack the Sri Lankan radar controling staff could go to seep slumber again and again.

And all general public can believe that 2 radars can protect where the fighters will bomb, oh sure didnt knew it has teletransportation system, can you just educate me in this issue?

BTW Bull how much technical assistance to train radar operators and flight controllers is is being provided by India to SL?

Enough to do their work as normally such deal covers such issues.

 

[HAIDER]

well Radar theory is over, cuz Srilanka is dismentalling all Indian radar and new chinese radar are start working which are latest, but Indian claim is these chinese radar violates Indian air space, means long range.
So, China is slowly setting up spyeye on Indian movements.

 

[Contrarian]

well Radar theory is over, cuz Srilanka is dismentalling all Indian radar and new chinese radar are start working which are latest,

When did SL start dismantling Indian radars? Provide proof.
And why would they dismantle them in the first place when they have officially acknowledged that the radars had been switched OFF the day before the LTTE air strike. Apparently only the anti India posters are still using this theory that the Indian radars were faulty.

Secondly, when did SL officially announce that they would be procuring Chinese radars now? Again, give the link.

but Indian claim is these chinese radar violates Indian air space, means long range.

When the HELL did India say this statement that the radar is violating Indian air space. And BTW radars cannot violate airspace, they only see what is inside.

So, China is slowly setting up spyeye on Indian movements.

Even if i accept that all you have said is true and there are Chinese radars comming on SL, how in gods name would CHINA have a spy eye on Indian movements. Its not as though the Chinese would be seeing or getting the data feed from the radars. Its the Sri Lankans.

Talk sense man...you delve too much into speculation.

 

[joey]

well Radar theory is over, cuz Srilanka is dismentalling all Indian radar

Not really 2 radars will work in the base.

and new chinese radar are start working which are latest,

3D radars are not latest, they are just radars as per with 2D but 3D.

but Indian claim is these chinese radar violates Indian air space, means long range.

3D radar violates Indian air space? hmmm
Are they supplying then Long range AESA radars to capture zlins?

So, China is slowly setting up spyeye on Indian movements.

Indeed, I'm very afraid, China will spy on India through srilanka by placing radars....Can I ask you something? Do you know the height the radars will be palced? What will be the radar horizon? and what is the distance between srilanka and India , are you sure it is more than enough to spy on India?

 

[Contrarian]

Joey, let the man confirm his statements first, THEN we delve into the technicalities!

I dont think he would be able to provide proof in the first place.

 

[joey]

http://www.indiaenews.com/srilanka/20070607/55214.htm

"..the police descended on several lodges in Tamil areas of Colombo and ordered all Tamils staying in the city without valid reason to clear out."

"The police had reportedly instructed lodge owners not to shelter people from the north and east who had no 'valid reasons' for being in Colombo."

"Even in some cases where lodgers were able to explain their presence in Colombo to establish their bona fides, they were told that Tamils who were not permanent residents of Colombo had no right to be in Colombo.'"

Read the full story in the link...

 

[Samudra]

It is ironic indeed that the supporters of freedom fighters aka the Pakistanis would seek to support the Sri Lankans who have indulged in planned massacres of Tamils in the past.

The poor Tamils are fighting for 'freedom'.
And this Pakistan which is a great helper of freedom fighters and supporter of 'legitimate aspirations' seeks to pamper the Sri Lankans instead. I'm sure it will be called realpolitik.

Somehow, its never realpolitik in Kashmir. Its always some high moral ground.

So why realpolitik in Sri Lanka and moral high ground in Kashmir ?

Because Kashmir is Muslim ?

My answer is its moral high ground nowhere and realpolitik everywhere.

A honest mind would accept.

 

[Bull]

It is ironic indeed that the supporters of freedom fighters aka the Pakistanis would seek to support the Sri Lankans who have indulged in planned massacres of Tamils in the past.

The poor Tamils are fighting for 'freedom'.
And this Pakistan which is a great helper of freedom fighters and supporter of 'legitimate aspirations' seeks to pamper the Sri Lankans instead. I'm sure it will be called realpolitik.

Somehow, its never realpolitik in Kashmir. Its always some high moral ground.

So why realpolitik in Sri Lanka and moral high ground in Kashmir ?

Because Kashmir is Muslim ?

My answer is its moral high ground nowhere and realpolitik everywhere.

A honest mind would accept.

Your post will be ignored. Dont ask such questions sam!!!

 

[Interceptor]

It is ironic indeed that the supporters of freedom fighters aka the Pakistanis would seek to support the Sri Lankans who have indulged in planned massacres of Tamils in the past.

Why did you use the word Ironic? What does tamil repersent to India and what does Tamil repersent to Pakistan? Was Sri Lanka a integral part of Pakistan or India? Kashmir was taken from Pakistan it is silly to even compare Sri Lanka with Pakistan where you say the Sri Lankans have commited massecres, the Indian government has to commited plenty; rape, murder and illegal occupation you should mention that atleast in Sri Lanka they report a news coverage over an attack, in Indian held Kashmir the Indians have banned media from covering the horrific rapes and slaughter jails. Not with all the ellegance in words or metaphorical calling will India be a part of Kashmir, Kashmir holds the same culture as Pakistan it speaks the same mother language as Pakistan, but the most important it carries blood bond with Pakistan.

Why not first fix the problems that India it self cant resolve rather than interfere and create instability in other regions.

The poor Tamils are fighting for 'freedom'.
And this Pakistan which is a great helper of freedom fighters and supporter of 'legitimate aspirations' seeks to pamper the Sri Lankans instead. I'm sure it will be called realpolitik.

Where Pakistan stands it is iron, why do Indians feel the heat about it, isn't India supporting the rebeliouse in Baluchistan and Afganistan againt Pakistan, India by far has the greatest support for ill fated misdeeds in attacking countries with threats. Don't go off a tangent.

Somehow, its never realpolitik in Kashmir. Its always some high moral ground.

Use some sense will you Kashmir is a disputed region it belongs to Pakistan and it has been fought over several times there is your Realpolitik.

So why realpolitik in Sri Lanka and moral high ground in Kashmir ?

Yeah why is India giving threats to Sri lanka .

Because Kashmir is Muslim ?

Well done it is a muslim majority being inslaved by the Indian government.

My answer is its moral high ground nowhere and realpolitik everywhere.

Sense?

A honest mind would accept.

Sense?

 

[Samudra]

Kashmir was taken from Pakistan

A good part of Kashmir was saved from Pakistan in 1947.

We've never forgotten the atrocities of the 'tribals' who invaded Kashmir.

We shall never forget Operation Gulmarg. The sabotage, plunder and rape, the slaughter of Hindus at Mirpur and a thousand unnamed atrocities - We shall never forget neither forgive. We could have tried had the killing of innocent Indians and Kashmiris ceased in Kashmir.In 1947.

So, if you make of mistake of assuming we're forgetful people and that we'll buy your lies at their face falue then be prepared to face the consequences of the same. Remember : It was the daughter of Hindu Kashmiri Pundit who cut Pakistan into two. History does have its ironies.Sic Semper tyrannis.

Other than this small correction I have nothing to tell you because you're yet to understand what was told earlier.

 

[Interceptor]

Dont play games with me I made it clear the India government has murdered, raped and massacred Kashmirs since independance of Pakistan. Do you even call that evidence that Pakistan had its hands in them, well why dont you remember the many trains that came to Pakistan with dead bodies and the driver was spared how can you justify that!

India has no claim over Kashmir, the Kashmirs dont even speak in Hindi they speak Urdu, they write in Udru. Dont ever come with these bogus claims that India would never forgive. Pakistan will never forgive India for plotting massacres across Kashmir, Kashmir is never been a integral part of India.

I never assume I will make that clear!

You live in a fantasy if you believe that India has any power over the Kashmirs, Kashmirs will struggle to succeed in their freedom.

 

[Samudra]

India government has murdered, raped and massacred Kashmirs since independance of Pakistan.

No, we have not.

why dont you remember the many trains that came to Pakistan with dead bodies and the driver was spared how can you justify that!

I do not try to gain moral mileage upon dead bodies of the partition riots. Neither do I respond to such attempts. I'd like to respect and honor the dead.

the Kashmirs dont even speak in Hindi

Neither do I.

Pakistan will never forgive India for plotting massacres

Relax, there is nothing for you to forgive.

Kashmir is never been a integral part of India.

Too late. Its already a part of India.

Kashmirs will struggle to succeed in their freedom.

Yes, freedom from fundamentalism and religious hate spread from across the borders.

 

[joey]

Dont play games with me I made it clear the India government has murdered, raped and massacred Kashmirs since independance of Pakistan.

Wrong, quite wrong, instead opposite has happened, surely Indian Army has had many violations of AFSPA (Armed forces special powers Act) but they are trialled in army courts, but show me anywhere in this world where Army didnt had such issues, even Pak army have such issues in balochistan as well.

Instead the terrorists has murdered and raped thousands of families cold blooded, whos out there to punish them? yes the Ia only, quite possible some of cases cought in crossfire, some in violation of law.

Do you even call that evidence that Pakistan had its hands in them,

you mean dailytimes reporting, how Pak has handed pictures of RAW guys with nawaz sharif? or aftab dancing in Indian music?

well why dont you remember the many trains that came to Pakistan with dead bodies and the driver was spared how can you justify that!

going back to riots? is it the only part of the story?

India has no claim over Kashmir,

based on what?

the Kashmirs dont even speak in Hindi they speak Urdu, they write in Udru.

Yes indeed, killing thousands and thousands of pundits will leave only the urdu speaking peoples, shall We make a law that will allow us Indians to buy lands in kashmir just like pakistan has done? (which violates norms of plebicite thus it canont be done there), we can pretty quickly see some desi bihari speaking crowd there....

Kashmir is never been a integral part of India.

hehe, joking?
Kashmir has been divided into Two, one belongs to pakistan one to India, as simple as that, and oh one gifted to China.

You live in a fantasy if you believe that India has any power over the Kashmirs, Kashmirs will struggle to succeed in their freedom.

ah yes, like mr geeelani, who will shout against India in Indian land, and get operated in India after being denied visa in unkil land, great!

 

[Interceptor]

No, we have not.

There is enough information and evidence to burry the IA alive in more than 50 languages.

I do not try to gain moral mileage upon dead bodies of the partition riots. Neither do I respond to such attempts. I'd like to respect and honor the dead.

Then don’t probe malicious lies that Kashmir’s were saved by the Indians; the Indian presence is the root cause of hate in Kashmir!

Neither do I.

Nor do I but in case you forgot I was talking about the Kashmir's.

Relax, there is nothing for you to forgive.

Sense

Too late. Its already a part of India.

In your dream true but realit no! Kashmir will never be a part of India even with all the the glory India.

Yes, freedom from fundamentalism and religious hate spread from across the borders.

Your right, I know the Indian Army likes rapping women and cutting there breast off and taking there dignity, that was really why Pakistan was created to save the Muslims from the Hindu fundamentalist that run the Indian governement.

 

[Samudra]

There is enough information and evidence to burry the IA alive in more than 50 languages.

Then, why isnt the IA burried alive yet ?

All claims of information and evidence are bogus and lack any crediblity whatsoever, Sir!

Then don’t probe malicious lies that Kashmir’s were saved by the Indians

It is no lie. Atrocities committed by Pakistani forces pillaging Kashmir during Operation Gulmarg are rather well known. We're sorry we couldn't kill all the looters and that they got away with half of Kashmir.

In your dream true but realit no

The tricolor continues to fly in Sri Nagar.

I know the Indian Army likes rapping women and cutting there breast off

The Pakistani Army you mean, Sir ?

Pakistan was created to save the Muslims

I think Muslims have to save themselves from Muslims in the first place before trying to find imaginary demons in places they do not exist. What with Shias, Sunnis, Punjabis and Bengalis.