India Offers Assistance in Fighting Boko Haram

[I M Sikander]

The imaginary 7 lakh troops would have flattened the whole area within a month if they had employed your tactics.

So you are not yet satisfued by killing 110000 kashmiris and raping thousand of their women in last 2 decades.
Get some more troops, Kashmiris know how to handle your troops.

 

[Bhoot Pishach]

Do some home work kid on swat and NW and SW and fata operations before doing mental farting.

Whole of Pakistan is effected by Attacks, no day passes when there is no terrorist attack some were in pakistan.

Why only talk about Swat, FATA, Northern Province?

Whole Pakistan is suffering.

 

[I M Sikander]

Whole of Pakistan is effected by Attacks, no day passes when there is no terrorist attack some were in pakistan.

Why only talk about Swat, FATA, Northern Province?

Whole Pakistan is suffering.

Terrorism is down by 70%. Baita chck stats before posting online.
I know you cant do home qork, so you better watch pogo.

 

[illusion8]

So you are not yet satisfued by killing 110000 kashmiris and raping thousand of their women in last 2 decades.
Get some more troops, Kashmiris know how to handle your troops.

Lol..pakistani propaganda crap

If the forces had killed 110000 sunni and raped thousands of women geelani and mirwaiz wouldn't be alive and the Indian forces wouldn't be shielding themselves from stone throwers and there wouldn't have been pakistani / isis flags flying over salafi mosques.

You have any idea what 7 lakh aggressive troops can do in a small area like kashmir in a week?.total carnage....there wouldn't be any salafi deobandi left in the valley if they desired.

The tactics I mention is what pa uses..artillery barrages, tanks, gun ships, air strikes etc..ideally that's the way to put down a radical terrorist group.

 

[Didact]

@Didact

That was a great reply... the whole NATO billions and thousands of troops could not take down the taliban for well over a decade ..so one should take the so called declared "victories" and numbers of our neighbor with a truckload of salt and assume that it's just for domestic consumption and to gain funds and weapons from its two benefactors.

It is nearly impossible to take down a radical is mail militant group..no matter how strong the opposing forces are..Ideally. .One wonders if one should be equally brutal as them..so what pakistanis are doing within their territory or what the saudis are doing in yemen is the probably the way to go...carpet bomb whole areas and territories and send the military to pick up the bodies.

Makes one wonder why are forces are so soft on the terrorists in Kashmir. ..

The Indian experience in NE, the British experience in Ireland and their numerous colonies, and the French in their African and Far East Asian colonies all independently came to the conclusion that a determined, motivated and fairly well supplied insurgency could not be crushed out of existence in a short time frame. It usually takes a generation (25 years) or two of slow, dogged, unrelenting pressure to break the back of the militant movement, and sap away the motivation behind the determination. Heavy handedness generally doesn't work, unless you're willing to go the Soviet way.

This is the reason why I prefer, as do most strategists, to not use the military sledge hammer for what is essentially a slow chiseling work. The extended time period of deployments tie down precious divisions, weaken the military, and also bring with them undesirable effects on the operation itself. COIN should preferably be led by the local police, and failing that by a specialized COIN group.

 

[suresh1773]

Terrorism is down by 70%. Baita chck stats before posting online.
I know you cant do home qork, so you better watch pogo.

The militants know that they cannot fight a conventional war where the opponent is heavily outnumbered with the latest tanks and fighter planes, hence they will lie down below. Once the army returns to the barracks they will resume their operations attacking vital installations like airports,government offices. In short it is just a matter of time. Even NATO troops across the afghan border cannot bring stability in afghanistan despite staying more then a decade, What to talk of Pakistani army.
ALL your military operations including Zarb e adab or this e that has failed miserbably.Lastly stats figures can be easily manipulated. please don't rely

 

[I M Sikander]

Lol..pakistani propaganda crap

If the forces had killed 110000 sunni and raped thousands of women geelani and mirwaiz wouldn't be alive and the Indian forces wouldn't be shielding themselves from stone throwers and there wouldn't have been pakistani / isis flags flying over salafi mosques.

You have any idea what 7 lakh aggressive troops can do in a small area like kashmir in a week?.total carnage....there wouldn't be any salafi deobandi left in the valley if they desired.

The tactics I mention is what pa uses..artillery barrages, tanks, gun ships, air strikes etc..ideally that's the way to put down a radical terrorist group.

Typical Indian denying their crimes in kashmir. Go and dare to pull out your troops from the valley and you will realize where you stand.

 

[Bhoot Pishach]

Terrorism is down by 70%. Baita chck stats before posting online.
I know you cant do home qork, so you better watch pogo.

You are saying this after loosing more then 50,000 lives??? And everyday the numbers are rising.

Do really Pakistan want to exterminate its "Strategic Assets" ???

 

[illusion8]

[QUOTE ="Ranasikander, post: 7815545, member: 35521"]Typical Indian denying their crimes in kashmir. Go and dare to pull out your troops from the valley and you will realize where you stand.[/QUOTE]

There aren't any, it's the J&K police and RR that's engaged in counter terrorist ops..The army /bsf units are stationed at the Pakistani border.

Now prove me wrong.

The Indian experience in NE, the British experience in Ireland and their numerous colonies, and the French in their African and Far East Asian colonies all independently came to the conclusion that a determined, motivated and fairly well supplied insurgency could not be crushed out of existence in a short time frame. It usually takes a generation (25 years) or two of slow, dogged, unrelenting pressure to break the back of the militant movement, and sap away the motivation behind the determination. Heavy handedness generally doesn't work, unless you're willing to go the Soviet way.

This is the reason why I prefer, as do most strategists, to not use the military sledge hammer for what is essentially a slow chiseling work. The extended time period of deployments tie down precious divisions, weaken the military, and also bring with them undesirable effects on the operation itself. COIN should preferably be led by the local police, and failing that by a specialized COIN group.

Islamic militancy is way different then other militant activity. .where there are at least some genuine concerns that can be addressed..Islamic militancy is lunacy and no amount of goodwill or confidence building will reduce it..If fact it will just get stronger when the terrorists feel the opposing forces are not quite engaging them..They use their dead and injured as propaganda and are backed by steady stream of recruits aka jihadis.

One can convince a group to consider giving up violence if their demands are met..but when a group such as most of the radical Islamic ones sole goal is extermination of the ones who aren't like them..then it's futile to engage them over a period of time.

Boko can only be killed not reformed.

 

[I M Sikander]

You are saying this after loosing more then 50,000 lives??? And everyday the numbers are rising.

Do really Pakistan want to exterminate its "Strategic Assets" ???

Who the hell told you that TTP is our strategic asset. Should i tell you about about proxies who are always loyal to usand never do any inside pakistani territory.

 

[Brickwall]

You are late indians, pakistan already helping them aince last 8 - 9 years.
We have supplied them crucial wepaons system and training to their arm forces including special forces.

You missed important thing..here we are supporting African governments not terrorists..i guess old habits die hard

 

[Bhoot Pishach]

Who the hell told you that TTP is our strategic asset. Should i tell you about about proxies who are always loyal to usand never do any inside pakistani territory.

TTP is one thing. What about Afghan Taliban, Haqqani Network, JuD,Hizb-ul-Mujahideen, Harkat-ul-Ansar, Lashkar-e-Toiba, Lashkar-e-Toiba, Harkat-ul Mujahideen, Al Badr, Jamait-ul-Mujahideen, Lashkar-e-Jabbar, Harkat-ul-Jehad-al-Islami.

I am just naming only few. there are tones of them.

Snakes will always be Snake. What ever the name you give them. They only know bite. They dont differentiate in whom they are biting.

Now it is TTP after that there will be some other Snake, only it is the matter of time.