India not offered F-22s or F-35s: Why?

[Nemesis]

People, stop with your racist remarks and get a life.

 

[ARCHON]

Just bcoz you indian members (especially some indian open defecate wild animals who seriously made a racist remark on chinese)start trolling and blaming china in almost every thread whatever it realated to china or not, just like this one. And under this condition, I can think positively.

You are a senior member. Its time to avoid these trolls and think positively.

 

[chinapakistan]

People, stop with your racist remarks and get a life.

Are you talking about this one?

they dont want to die there children with this like 135 cr rich chinies people did..

 

[truefriend]

Just bcoz you indian members (especially some indian open defecate wild animals who seriously made a racist remark on chinese)start trolling and blaming china in almost every thread whatever it realated to china or not, just like this one. And under this condition, I can think positively.

i think u r chinies pussycat against an indian open defecate wild animal

 

[chinapakistan]

You are a senior member. Its time to avoid these trolls and think positively.

Ok, post like this really make me stop, and I have no reason not stop with your suggestion. Lets talk positively and back to the topic.

 

[chinapakistan]

i think u r chinies pussycat against an indian open defecate wild animal

ignore you and post reported.

 

[truefriend]

Are you talking about this one?

it was u who take indian poorty into this topic

 

[RAHUL INDIAN]

Dont wrong about that. BTW: Can india produce their own electricity machinary in this century and stop importing it from china?

this started it all....

This is how this guy replies to anything he doesnt like...he doesnt know how to respond properly or with argument to anything....
u say anything against jxx, against chinese plane, sub, or anything....his reply to that will be toilet or electric machine...

this guy has no patience or knows to reply ON TOPIC (to anything he doesnt like) and seems fit for 50 cent tag.

 

[chinapakistan]

this started it all....

This is how this guy replies to anything he doesnt like...he doesnt know how to respond properly or with argument to anything....
u say anything against jxx, against chinese plane, sub, or anything....his reply to that will be toilet or electric machine...

this guy has no patience or knows to reply ON TOPIC (to anything he doesnt like) and seems fit for 50 cent tag.

Sorry to tell you, it started at post#31, 32

"Khisiyani ...billi....Khamba noche".......Holds good here.

Apni aukaat nahi ...is liye yeh soch ke khush ho lete hain ki pasodi ne bhi to nahi kharida....

no man they have jxx for sure

it doesnt matter when ... i think in this century for sure...

I faild to understand he wanna talk properly from this ↑ post. Can anyone educate me, his post sounds like he wanna talk properly?

 

[chinapakistan]

this guy has no patience or knows to reply ON TOPIC (to anything he doesnt like) and seems fit for 50 cent tag.

Sorry, you make cant talk positively again, and I have to tell you that 50cent is really a big money for 40% indian. I am so lucky I can get that so easy by just posting a single post., Pretty good, right?

 

[RAHUL INDIAN]

Sorry, you make cant talk positively again, and I have to tell you that 50cent is really a big money for 40% indian. I am so lucky I can get that so easy by just posting a single post., Pretty good, right?

what is ur nationality..
how did u understand this,

Khisiyani ...billi....Khamba noche
Apni aukaat nahi ...is liye yeh soch ke khush ho lete hain ki pasodi ne bhi to nahi kharida....

dal main kuch kala hai..!!!

 

[truefriend]

Oh, I never heared you are rich enough to be able to use use and throw TV, computer, cellphone, refrigerator, cleaner, chen microwave, electricity machinery, metro, internet system, weather rader and etc.


Please ask indian students not come to chinese university to study medicine.


Keep that for your 400million indian brothers who are under poverty line and cant be feeded. One question, Do they know what is milk?

this how u reply in cheap manner nd asking us for troll

about jxx m just repling to an pakistani frnd not u ..
because this thread is about 5th gen fighter jets

 

[chinapakistan]

this how u reply in cheap manner nd asking us for troll

about jxx m just repling to an pakistani frnd not u ..
because this thread is about 5th gen fighter jets

I am going to sleep and every one read the post from #31 will know you are just twisting the fact, and everyone knows that indian are good at doing it. But dont fool people here, just one question why you didnt quote the post posted by "chachachoudhary" which I replied to? Oh, Everyone knows why.No more comments.

 

[indiarocks]

it really doesent matter what plane you have, what matters is who has the best pilot. PAF

yep i agree u got best pilots thats why......in sreenagar in 1971 our one pilot with less capable plane shot 1 of your sabre's and confirmed a shot on other 2 before going down.....thats also on your 2 pilots who ejected safely killing them both....

dont beleve !!!!!read the ::VICTIM OF GOD:: BY YOUR LONE SURVIVING PILOT FROM THAT CLASH someone called SATAR UL......

 

[coolmesh842]

India not offered F-22s or F-35s: Why?

The Indians cant seem to win. They spend a lot of money but get treated really badly. The Russians have been pushing Delhi around for a decade. Their strong-along games on the Admiral Gorskov is a classic case study of what not to do in defense procurement. Bharat (aka India) constantly complains to Moscow about the lack of Transfer of Technology (ToT).

Bharat is the only major military power of the world that has been unable to produce its own indigenous aircraft. Its Purchase Order of $10 Billion for foreign planes is an admission of its failure to create local planes. The legendry incompetence of the Indian Department of Defense has led to many fiascos like the LCA which has been in design for the past 25 years. Even if the new GE engines can replace the failed Kevari engines, the plane is 1980s vintage and has no military value. The Tejas can is unable to replace Bharat’s aging fleet of Flying Coffins (the arcane Russian Migs that cannot defy gravity in Bharat).

The US for all its talk about strategic partnership and “natural ally” has not offered Bharat (aka India) the latest arms technology. The F-18s are slated to be discontinued. Most NATO members do not want them. Bharat is ready to spend $10 billion. One would imagine that Lockheed Martin would go head over heels to appease Delhi. The standoffish attitude of Martin has surprise and annoyed many Indian arms purchasers.

If Bharat makes a decision against the Mig-35s there will be a huge cost of pay. Russia has already designed the FGFA, though it will allow Bharat a face saving paint job on the planes (all in the name of “joint production”. If Bharat does not buy the Mig 35s, that deal would be further jeopardy.

Lockheed Martin will not commit commercial suicide by giving up the “Coke Formula” to the Indians. The planes will be sequestered in separate hangers, and complete with intrusive surprise inspections and all. The Indian Navy has already decided that it does not want the F-22s. If the Indian Air Force does decide on the F-22s, it will then have to setup separate system of maintenance for the Russian planes (which make up the bulk of its fleet) and a more secure one for the US manufactured plane.

MUMBAI — Field trials by six aircraft makers — including Boeing Co. and Dassault Aviation SA — for an estimated $10 billion Indian Air Force contract will likely be completed by July, an Indian minister said Wednesday.

"They (the trials) are expected to get over some time in June or July next year because testing has to be done across both the winter and summer seasons," M.M. Pallam Raju, junior defense minister, said on the sidelines of an industry conference.

Boeing is offering the F/A-18 fighter jet for the 126 multi-role combat aircraft deal, while Dassault has put up the Rafale.

Vivek Lall, vice president and India head for Boeing Integrated Defense Systems, said in October that the F/A-18 recently completed the second phase of trials in India’s Leh, Jaisalmer and Bangalore areas.

The third phase will start in the U.S. in February.

Lockheed Martin Corp.’s F-16 Falcon, Russian Aircraft Corp.’s MiG-35, Saab AB’s JAS-39 Gripen, as well as the Eurofighter Typhoon — produced by a consortium of European companies–are also competing for the contract.

India plans to buy the 126 jets, as well as advanced helicopters and other defense equipment, to modernize its mainly Soviet-vintage defense forces. The Indian Air Force has 1,700 aircraft, including helicopters and transport planes, according to its Web site.

India, which is among the world’s top arms importers, has earmarked 1.42 trillion rupees ($30.7 billion) as capital expenditure on defense for the current fiscal year through March 2010, up from 1.06 trillion rupees in the previous year.

Mr. Raju said 30%-40% of this year’s defense budget has been spent so far.

Under current rules, foreign companies which receive import orders in excess of 3 billion rupees must draw at least 30% of that order from domestic suppliers or make a similar sized investment within India, in what is known as an offset.

"The offset obligation for this (126-fighter jet) order is 50%," said Mr. Raju. NOVEMBER 18, 2009, India: Fighter Jet Deal Trials Likely to End July. By DEEPALI GUPTA and SANTANU CHOUDHURY

If Bharat does decide on the F-16s, this is the first time that opposing countries will get American Aircrafts. A Pakistani F-16 facing off an Indian F-16 would create for interesting comparisons.

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F22s are not even offered for its all time ally UK. F35s are just now having flight trials and even the partner countries are looking forward to exit the program and going for F18 or other planes. Quite honestly india is wise enough to partner with russians who transfer the actual technology..

Meanwhile Pakistan will never ever get to see even F22 or F35 actually taking off..

Please close this hate spreading thread.