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India 'not a threat to Pakistan' - Zardari

Zardari is going out on a limb with these actions.

For people tired of continued hostility and terrorism, this change of tact may be welcome, but if he is unable to translate his words into concrete solutions such as a normalization with India, turning the economy around, and reducing the insurgency in FATA, then his fall will probably be just as spectacular as his recent statements and initiatives.

Lets wait and see how this ends.

I agree with you. Unlike previsious adminstrations in Pakistan which garner support and focused only on Kashmire issues have left the country's economic policy in disarrey. If Zardari can take the focus away and get gov't and army to focus on immediate threats like economy and terrorism, it might be beneficial for Pakistan in the long run.
 
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Pakistanis will have to take care of him, it is their country, their leader.

He is our leader similarly as Karzai is leader of Afghanistan.
If horse trading can make indian govt. than why Pakistan or any country of world be immune to money honey?
 
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A shrewd move


First Published : 07 Oct 2008 02:59:00 AM ISTLast Updated : Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari has held out a bright green olive branch to New Delhi with his recent statement against terrorism in Jammu and Kashmir striking a new chord.


Unlike his predecessor Pervez Musharraf who was reluctant to draw a defining line between the terrorist and the so-called freedom fighter, Zardari appears to be bending backwards to woo New Delhi for a new beginning. In fact, his interview to the Wall Street Journal is more ‘out of the box’ than Musharraf ’s many assertions on Jammu and Kashmir. By recognising the terror groups operating in the border state as terrorists, Zardari has opened wide the door for dialogue and reconciliation. He has also added a little icing to the freshly made cake, by saying that India had never been a threat to Pakistan and that his government was not scared of Indian influence in the world. He was quite happy with the US-India nuclear deal, saying that Pakistan would not “begrudge” better relations between the two democracies. All brave new words, and not heard from any Pakistani leader before.

It is indicative of a new thinking, and if Zardari is allowed free play at home he might be the one to put the tumultuous relations between the two neighbours on an even keel. But this, unfortunately, is easier said than done and the Pakistan President is already in trouble at home for distancing himself not just from Musharraf but from established Pakistani policy, when he denounced the groups operating in Jammu and Kashmir as terrorists, and not freedom fighters. The Pakistan Muslim League under Nawaz Sharif has already decided to raise this in Parliament as will the majority of others, including the PML (Q). It is not difficult to predict that Zardari will face a storm of protest at home, and will have to retract sooner than later. Kashmiri separatist groups have also criticised Zardari for his bold statement, and are particularly unhappy with Pakistan’s shifting policies. For once, New Delhi has not jumped to embrace Zardari in rhetoric that could do more damage than good, and is waiting to assess the reaction in the hope that the shrewd leader who has manoeuvred himself into the President’s chair with considerable ease, will be able to blunt the opposition and gradually influence a change in Islamabad’s Indian policy.

A shrewd move
 
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A shrewd move


First Published : 07 Oct 2008 02:59:00 AM ISTLast Updated : Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari has held out a bright green olive branch to New Delhi with his recent statement against terrorism in Jammu and Kashmir striking a new chord.


Unlike his predecessor Pervez Musharraf who was reluctant to draw a defining line between the terrorist and the so-called freedom fighter, Zardari appears to be bending backwards to woo New Delhi for a new beginning. In fact, his interview to the Wall Street Journal is more ‘out of the box’ than Musharraf ’s many assertions on Jammu and Kashmir. By recognising the terror groups operating in the border state as terrorists, Zardari has opened wide the door for dialogue and reconciliation. He has also added a little icing to the freshly made cake, by saying that India had never been a threat to Pakistan and that his government was not scared of Indian influence in the world. He was quite happy with the US-India nuclear deal, saying that Pakistan would not “begrudge” better relations between the two democracies. All brave new words, and not heard from any Pakistani leader before.

It is indicative of a new thinking, and if Zardari is allowed free play at home he might be the one to put the tumultuous relations between the two neighbours on an even keel. But this, unfortunately, is easier said than done and the Pakistan President is already in trouble at home for distancing himself not just from Musharraf but from established Pakistani policy, when he denounced the groups operating in Jammu and Kashmir as terrorists, and not freedom fighters. The Pakistan Muslim League under Nawaz Sharif has already decided to raise this in Parliament as will the majority of others, including the PML (Q). It is not difficult to predict that Zardari will face a storm of protest at home, and will have to retract sooner than later. Kashmiri separatist groups have also criticised Zardari for his bold statement, and are particularly unhappy with Pakistan’s shifting policies. For once, New Delhi has not jumped to embrace Zardari in rhetoric that could do more damage than good, and is waiting to assess the reaction in the hope that the shrewd leader who has manoeuvred himself into the President’s chair with considerable ease, will be able to blunt the opposition and gradually influence a change in Islamabad’s Indian policy.

A shrewd move

According to the Indians it is definetely the brightest statement by a Pakistani politician ,after all, it makes their task of selling their lies all too easy now and it would have been better if he had said that the creation of Pakistan was also wrong.
 
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A shrewd move


First Published : 07 Oct 2008 02:59:00 AM ISTLast Updated : Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari has held out a bright green olive branch to New Delhi with his recent statement against terrorism in Jammu and Kashmir striking a new chord.


Unlike his predecessor Pervez Musharraf who was reluctant to draw a defining line between the terrorist and the so-called freedom fighter, Zardari appears to be bending backwards to woo New Delhi for a new beginning. In fact, his interview to the Wall Street Journal is more ‘out of the box’ than Musharraf ’s many assertions on Jammu and Kashmir. By recognising the terror groups operating in the border state as terrorists, Zardari has opened wide the door for dialogue and reconciliation. He has also added a little icing to the freshly made cake, by saying that India had never been a threat to Pakistan and that his government was not scared of Indian influence in the world. He was quite happy with the US-India nuclear deal, saying that Pakistan would not “begrudge” better relations between the two democracies. All brave new words, and not heard from any Pakistani leader before.

It is indicative of a new thinking, and if Zardari is allowed free play at home he might be the one to put the tumultuous relations between the two neighbours on an even keel. But this, unfortunately, is easier said than done and the Pakistan President is already in trouble at home for distancing himself not just from Musharraf but from established Pakistani policy, when he denounced the groups operating in Jammu and Kashmir as terrorists, and not freedom fighters. The Pakistan Muslim League under Nawaz Sharif has already decided to raise this in Parliament as will the majority of others, including the PML (Q). It is not difficult to predict that Zardari will face a storm of protest at home, and will have to retract sooner than later. Kashmiri separatist groups have also criticised Zardari for his bold statement, and are particularly unhappy with Pakistan’s shifting policies. For once, New Delhi has not jumped to embrace Zardari in rhetoric that could do more damage than good, and is waiting to assess the reaction in the hope that the shrewd leader who has manoeuvred himself into the President’s chair with considerable ease, will be able to blunt the opposition and gradually influence a change in Islamabad’s Indian policy.

A shrewd move

According to the Indians it is definitely the brightest statement by a Pakistani politician ,after all, it makes their task of selling their lies all too easy now and it would have been better if he had said that the creation of Pakistan was also a big mistake.
 
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Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari says India has never been a threat to Pakistan, and that militants in Indian-administered Kashmir are terrorists.

In an interview with the Wall Street Journal, he also seemed to acknowledge that his government has given consent to US air strikes in Pakistan.

The unorthodox views run counter to those held by Pakistan's military, which views India as a threat.

India and Pakistan have fought three wars but have made recent peace moves.

Deep suspicions

Pakistan's powerful military has long-defined India as an existential threat, and in the past it has given covert backing to the militants in Kashmir.

The two regional rivals did take part in a faltering peace process under the former president, General Pervez Musharraf.

But suspicions always ran deep, and relations have soured recently.

Mr Zardari's comments thus mark a radical break with the past.

The Wall Street Journal also reports that Mr Zardari acknowledged that the US was firing missiles at militant targets inside Pakistan with his government's consent.

"We have an understanding, in the sense that we're going after an enemy together," it quotes him as saying.

But the Pakistani army is adamant that coalition forces do not have permission for such cross-border raids.

These incursions have stoked enormous anger in Pakistan - and Mr Zardari's comments may do the same.

This bastard is on drugs for sure or having some really awsome drinks just look at this jerks actions and wat he say's and wat he does he already made a fool of him self on his visit to the US with his dream gal ! anyhow this dude is a scum a theif with no class nor experence to be a a Pres furthermore wants our enemys as friends if he can sell PAK bit by bit trust me he will wat a shame i hope this dude hangs embrassing us every where with his stupid actions GOD help PAKISTAN :undecided:
 
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According to the Indians it is definitely the brightest statement by a Pakistani politician ,after all, it makes their task of selling their lies all too easy now and it would have been better if he had said that the creation of Pakistan was also a big mistake.

Please enlight me with what lies India is selling? with some link please!
 
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Hey.. I see that members here are annoyed with his statement.. But isnt it the right policy to follow, atleast until the country is out of the mess which it had dug itself into? He is simply stating the obviously easy course of live and let live.. Kashmir is a disputed territory, but does that imply that Fidayeen squads which target markets and school buses be termed as "freedom fighters"? People living in relative comfort and far from the hot bed of Kashmir wil not know anything.. But Imagine the Kashmiris, although a group of them would want a Pakistani or Azad Kashmir, do u think everybody wants to live in fear that a bomb may go off anytime at anyplace?? Even though I am in Chennai far from the hot n happening place, sometimes I have this fear when visiting crowded market places, imagining Bombs going off, Courtesy, the recent Bomb blasts across the cities and towns... If I have this kind of feeling, imagine the people in Kashmir.. Why dont we all take some time off and try to develop our countries.. Both the countries were freed from the foreign Yoke @ the same time. In fact we were the first countries to get freedom from Colonial powers.. But Counties which were freed after us have achieved tremendous improvements.. Not all could be blamed on bad governance.. The main problem is that the 2 countries have to spend a sizable chunk to maintain our militaries for a possible face-off.. ther is always an arms race.. Any reasonable person without ultra nationalistic sentiments would understand this..
 
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Zardari has stated that India poses no threat to Pakistan and that Islamabad was not intimidated by its international influence. Its very and only thruth which zardari mentioned as, its obvious that India may not need now to direct interven to poses threat as her tradition, while A-A zardari is there enough to be initiated on india's agenda "deal":angry:

During the same interview to a leading US magazine, Zadari has described militants operating in Kashmir as 'terrorists'. Till now, every Pakistani leader has described these people as 'freedom fighters'. In yet another diversion from the past.

If these words mean a change in Pakistan's policies vis-a-vis its neighbour to the east, they could be immensely significant (not least the fact that in all likelihood it runs counter to the thinking still in currency at GHQ). For the past many decades, indeed since 1947 and the violent birth of the country, Pakistan's strategy in Kashmir has revolved around backing the freedom struggle in the Indian-held territory. A number of 'jihadi' groups have taken centre stage in this. The Pakistani establishment has always distinguished these forces from militants engaged in terrorism, although the line of distinction has become increasingly hazy over time. Certainly, Zardari seems to be lumping Al Qaeda, the Taliban and the 'jihadis' all together when he uses the term 'terrorist'. Although these organizations have maintained a lower profile since 2003, following a pact between Islamabad and New Delhi, the outfits themselves have been allowed largely to remain intact. Indeed, India has recently complained militants are again being sent across the LoC.

It has yet to be seen how Zardari and the new government handle relations with India. Judging from his most recent remarks (and developments such as a reported move to review alleged Indian spy Sarabjit Singh's death-row case), the president seems eager to build new, closer bonds with India and put behind the acrimony of the past. He has, in previous comments, also stated the democratic government is eager to resolve the issue of Kashmir. This of course, as former president Musharraf found, is a task fraught with very many difficulties. The latest storm of protests in Indian-held Kashmir against oppression by the army is ample evidence of this. Kashmiris, denied their right to determine their own destiny for over six decades, have a right to feel aggrieved.

But if the Pakistan government can overcome the odds and move towards some kind of settlement, or even towards a more stable relationship with India, this will be a huge service to both countries and their people. To achieve this, dealing with militancy is a pre-requisite. The bomb blasts across India, most recently in the small town of Gauhati, have only added to the deep sense of mistrust which has periodically marred relations.

If Mr Zardari is to follow up on his words, he must indeed work towards developing closer links with India, tackling cross-border militancy, urging India to end repression in Kashmir and stop backing & funding for creating chaos in Baluchistan and FATA, setting in place the stones on which to build a new relationship.

These are all huge tasks, but with will and commitment they can be attained. We must then hope the president means what he says.

I would like to ask one question, if Kashmir may come on a solution which would be at least satisfactory to both Indians and Pakistanis, which is mainly a problem between India and Pakistan, then ……………… and then, if Mr Zardari says, India is not a threat to Pakistan and those who are doing bomb blasts in Kashmir to kill innocent people are Terrorists, is it wrong?

while Kashmiri residents of India not only enjoy equal rights as compare to other parts of the country but also they have special rights like only a Kashmir born person can buy land in Indian Kashmir.

I personally believe, partition of India was wrong. we might have better progressed as a single nation. but if India has been parted, its responsibility of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh to make their countries better than others. India is responsible for India only, and pakistan is for pakistan and bangladesh for bangaladesh. even a certainly unacceptable illegal infiltration from Bangladesh to northeast region of India. and also any back up firing along the LOC from pakistani troops to cover a back up for those militants who try to cross LOC to enter Kashmir.

a Malaysia type good technologically developed country, Pakistan, will certainly be pretty good for creating an environment of development in the whole South Asia but it is responsibility of all the countries of South Asia to maintain good relationship with each other. I believe, the statement of Mr Zardari would be highly welcomed for a better future of whole south asia region.
 
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zardari is really scaring me with such comments
what is he blind?
look at Kashmir, Baluchistan, and the destabilization of Pakistan
who does he think done this? INDIA
 
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I think this Ghaddar Zardari should simply put be hanged to he breaks the deans in his neck, and then re-hung 2 time more to also obliterate the supporting tissue in his neck.

Clearly this man is not the person that should be inn charge.
 
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