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Underlining that the teeth of any air force is the combat fleet, Raha said that the country needs another production line besides the Tejas.

Outgoing IAF chief Arup Raha on Wednesday made it clear that just 36 Rafale fighter jets would not suffice as India needs about 200-250 more fighters to maintain its combat edge over adversaries. The Air Chief Marshal, who is set to retire on December 31, also rued that the tender for the much needed “force multiplier” mid air refuellers had to be withdrawn. He said a fresh tender is in the offing and the procurement will be speeded up.

Underlining that the teeth of any air force is the combat fleet, Raha said that the country needs another production line besides the Tejas. He explained that the strength sanctioned by the government is 42 squadrons “which was a numerical value. He said what is needed “is also a capability mix”.

Raha said India has enough of heavy weight fighters – the Su30 MKI – which will last for another 30-40 years. He said the light weight spectrum would be served by the 123 Tejas light combat aircraft ordered by the IAF. Terming Rafale as an excellent aircraft, Raha said it comes in the medium weight spectrum.

“It is tremendously capable in all its role. It is a multi-role aircraft and can be used very effectively. It can prove its worth in any situation,” Raha said.

“But we have just ordered 36 aircraft and we require more aircraft in this middle weight category to give entire spectrum of capability,” he said. Raha said a void has been created in the past because of obsolescence and many of the squadrons will be past their use-by date.

“We have already used them for four decades plus. It is time to retire them and get new aircraft,” he said adding thi void has to be filled up quickly and 36 Rafale aircraft “will not do as we require much more”.

“Over the next 10 years, we must have 200-250 aircraft. It has to be balanced out. In the heavy weight spectrum, we have enough. But in the medium weight category, we need to have more. Yes, about 200 will be very good,” he said.

India and France finally signed the Rafale deal on September 23 this year, over a year after Prime Minister Narendra Modi announced the deal during his Paris visit in April 2015. The planes, equipped with latest weapons and tailored for Indian needs, will be delivered to the IAF between September 2019 and April 2022. The IAF currently has 33 fighter squadrons, against the sanctioned 42.

Raha also rued that IAF’s Russian-origin Ilyushin-78 tanker fleet was plagued by maintenance problems and more midair refuellers were a “strategic requirement” to extend the range of fighter planes.

IL-78 fleet had served the IAF well but its availability for missions has been less due to maintenance problems. India floated a global tender for six midair refuellers in 2007 but it has been scrapped twice in the final stages.

“Sadly, there have been some problem areas in the acquisition. A new tender will be out soon,” Raha said. The air chief said the terrorist attack on the Pathankot air base and the An-32 crash in which 29 people were killed were “the worst memories of my career”.

“We have flown in the fighter fleet 40,000 hrs, more than last 10 years due to better serviceability. We have done an average night flying of 27 per cent which was less earlier,” he said speaking about the achievements under his tenure.



http://indianexpress.com/article/in...in-edge-outgoing-iaf-chief-arup-raha-4448992/
 
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just couldn't get this three category theory....

.who stops them to fly a heavy weight mki in a medium weight category....afterall fuel bill have to pay by govt...
 
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India cannot buy 200 rafales I don't care how big the GDP grows.

They will have to get mix of more rafales ie 36. And used mirage 2000 from France and qatar
 
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just couldn't get this three category theory....

.who stops them to fly a heavy weight mki in a medium weight category....afterall fuel bill have to pay by govt...
Economics...Fuel bill is paid by the govt. however from the allocated defense budget..so not going to happen...having said that 200-250 is not gonna happen...we simply can't afford it...
 
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By 2025

270 mki
72 rafale
109 mirage2000/5
60 mig29smt
60 jaguar Darin three
125 tejas
 
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200 is way too many, probably 90 or so will be bought. remaining will be some cheaper alternative
 
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these indians think money grows on trees.

tell them to improve their strategy to match up against China as best as possible and try different tactics

we must never spend more than 2.5% of GDP on defence, economic reforms are more important, having better economic reforms means we can increase defence even more in the future and take export business from neighbouring nations.
 
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200-250 Rafales is way too much and it costs a bomb. Add 2 more squadrons of Rafales to the existing 36 on order which is sufficient for the next 15-20 years meanwhile partnering with private entities to speed up the development of AMCA. Dassault's offer to develop the Kaveri GTX would be a huge boost which can be used for LCA Mk-1A, Mk-2 and AMCA.
 
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Underlining that the teeth of any air force is the combat fleet, Raha said that the country needs another production line besides the Tejas.

Outgoing IAF chief Arup Raha on Wednesday made it clear that just 36 Rafale fighter jets would not suffice as India needs about 200-250 more fighters to maintain its combat edge over adversaries. The Air Chief Marshal, who is set to retire on December 31, also rued that the tender for the much needed “force multiplier” mid air refuellers had to be withdrawn. He said a fresh tender is in the offing and the procurement will be speeded up.

Underlining that the teeth of any air force is the combat fleet, Raha said that the country needs another production line besides the Tejas. He explained that the strength sanctioned by the government is 42 squadrons “which was a numerical value. He said what is needed “is also a capability mix”.

Raha said India has enough of heavy weight fighters – the Su30 MKI – which will last for another 30-40 years. He said the light weight spectrum would be served by the 123 Tejas light combat aircraft ordered by the IAF. Terming Rafale as an excellent aircraft, Raha said it comes in the medium weight spectrum.

“It is tremendously capable in all its role. It is a multi-role aircraft and can be used very effectively. It can prove its worth in any situation,” Raha said.

“But we have just ordered 36 aircraft and we require more aircraft in this middle weight category to give entire spectrum of capability,” he said. Raha said a void has been created in the past because of obsolescence and many of the squadrons will be past their use-by date.

“We have already used them for four decades plus. It is time to retire them and get new aircraft,” he said adding thi void has to be filled up quickly and 36 Rafale aircraft “will not do as we require much more”.

“Over the next 10 years, we must have 200-250 aircraft. It has to be balanced out. In the heavy weight spectrum, we have enough. But in the medium weight category, we need to have more. Yes, about 200 will be very good,” he said.

India and France finally signed the Rafale deal on September 23 this year, over a year after Prime Minister Narendra Modi announced the deal during his Paris visit in April 2015. The planes, equipped with latest weapons and tailored for Indian needs, will be delivered to the IAF between September 2019 and April 2022. The IAF currently has 33 fighter squadrons, against the sanctioned 42.

Raha also rued that IAF’s Russian-origin Ilyushin-78 tanker fleet was plagued by maintenance problems and more midair refuellers were a “strategic requirement” to extend the range of fighter planes.

IL-78 fleet had served the IAF well but its availability for missions has been less due to maintenance problems. India floated a global tender for six midair refuellers in 2007 but it has been scrapped twice in the final stages.

“Sadly, there have been some problem areas in the acquisition. A new tender will be out soon,” Raha said. The air chief said the terrorist attack on the Pathankot air base and the An-32 crash in which 29 people were killed were “the worst memories of my career”.

“We have flown in the fighter fleet 40,000 hrs, more than last 10 years due to better serviceability. We have done an average night flying of 27 per cent which was less earlier,” he said speaking about the achievements under his tenure.



http://indianexpress.com/article/in...in-edge-outgoing-iaf-chief-arup-raha-4448992/
250 Rafales to counter who ? Aliens ? :o:
 
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We don't have money for 200 rafale.may be we wil order another 18 rafales
 
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Can't imagine more than 72,rafales due to the massive e cost .

But a brilliant war plane

Tejss will come at one third the cost and bring nos up by 140 planes
 
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Issue with tejas is the under powered engine. over a period of time significantly improved avionics and missile subsystems can be added. 200-250 is overkill, it will simply drain the budget. Our air chief should be given the chance to present the next finance budget to know the pain of running the country.
 
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