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There is another saying in Punjabi,,,, Zaat di Korh Killi tay Shateera naal Jhappay.
India must respect Vienna convention on Italy envoy's immunity says EU
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There is another saying in Punjabi,,,, Zaat di Korh Killi tay Shateera naal Jhappay.
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tah fir tenu is akhaan da matlab v patah hona..ah gal tah fir vadday lok shoteya baray kehnday nay... koherkilli tah fir italy hoyee naah tay shehteer india..india har mamlay vich vadda ya ..hai k nahi..rakbay vich rutbay vich tay population vich military sternght vich.
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Jaat Jazbaati na hou,,, India inna hi vaddiya honda tay Do Italian marine nasday naa India cho tay Naa hi India Jhoot Boul kay dono nu Pharda...
Italy Paari hay India koulo. Jo marzi tussi kar lo unhaa nu koi farq nai payna... Ae gal likh lo tussi
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Naval guards issue: Bound by statute to obey Supreme Court order on Italian ambassador, govt says
NEW DELHI: Taking a tough stand on the Italian marines' issue, the government has asserted that it was bound by the Supreme Court's order placing curbs on the movement of Italian ambassador to India, Daniele Mancini.
"Our constitutional mandate to abide by the apex court orders supersedes all other obligation," law minister Ashwani Kumar told ToI in an interview. The assertion comes amid a raging debate over whether government will be violating its commitment under the Vienna Convention if it were to enforce apex court's orders.
The Italian government had on Saturday told the ministry of external affairs that restricting Mancini's movement at the behest of any Indian authority will be contrary to New Delhi's commitments under the Vienna Convention: a stance that has been endorsed by both the European Union (EU) and independent legal experts.
However, the law minister made it plain that the Indian government is duty bound under the Constitution to ensure and facilitate the implementation of the direction of the country's apex court. "Under Article 144 of the Constitution all authorities, civil and judicial, in India must act in aid of the orders of the SC. This constitutional mandate must supersede all other obligation," he added.
Kumar said that the government will make its position absolutely clear during the next hearing on the issue.
This tough stand of the government comes a day after Congress president and UPA chairperson Sonia Gandhi had said that "no country will be allowed to take India for granted".
While the tough stand is seen as a political imperative in view of opposition's keenness to embarrass the government, it is certain to aggravate tensions with both Italy and the EU.
"For the moment I can say that the breach of undertaking given to SC by the Italian government through its ambassador has created an unprecedented situation fraught with serious consequences in our bilateral relations with Italy," Kumar said.
He said the question of extent and nature of diplomatic immunity enjoyed by Italian ambassador under the Vienna Convention ought to be considered in context of specific factual situation. The law ministry and the treaties division of the ministry of external affairs are studying the issues involved and the stand of government in the SC will be a studied response to the situation considered in all its dimensions, he added.
Naval guards issue: Bound by statute to obey Supreme Court order on Italian ambassador, govt says - The Times of India
NEW DELHI: Taking a tough stand on the Italian marines' issue, the government has asserted that it was bound by the Supreme Court's order placing curbs on the movement of Italian ambassador to India, Daniele Mancini.
"Our constitutional mandate to abide by the apex court orders supersedes all other obligation," law minister Ashwani Kumar told ToI in an interview. The assertion comes amid a raging debate over whether government will be violating its commitment under the Vienna Convention if it were to enforce apex court's orders.
The Italian government had on Saturday told the ministry of external affairs that restricting Mancini's movement at the behest of any Indian authority will be contrary to New Delhi's commitments under the Vienna Convention: a stance that has been endorsed by both the European Union (EU) and independent legal experts.
However, the law minister made it plain that the Indian government is duty bound under the Constitution to ensure and facilitate the implementation of the direction of the country's apex court. "Under Article 144 of the Constitution all authorities, civil and judicial, in India must act in aid of the orders of the SC. This constitutional mandate must supersede all other obligation," he added.
Kumar said that the government will make its position absolutely clear during the next hearing on the issue.
This tough stand of the government comes a day after Congress president and UPA chairperson Sonia Gandhi had said that "no country will be allowed to take India for granted".
While the tough stand is seen as a political imperative in view of opposition's keenness to embarrass the government, it is certain to aggravate tensions with both Italy and the EU.
"For the moment I can say that the breach of undertaking given to SC by the Italian government through its ambassador has created an unprecedented situation fraught with serious consequences in our bilateral relations with Italy," Kumar said.
He said the question of extent and nature of diplomatic immunity enjoyed by Italian ambassador under the Vienna Convention ought to be considered in context of specific factual situation. The law ministry and the treaties division of the ministry of external affairs are studying the issues involved and the stand of government in the SC will be a studied response to the situation considered in all its dimensions, he added.
Naval guards issue: Bound by statute to obey Supreme Court order on Italian ambassador, govt says - The Times of India
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^^^ Things are getting Uglier and Uglier.
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Marines questioned as Rome probes into India case
Rome, March 20 - Rome prosecutors are moving forward in their probe into two Italian marines who allegedly shot two Indian fishermen on another vessel off the coast of India one year ago. The case, which has opened an international dispute between Indian and Italy, brought Massimiliano Latorre and Salvatore Girone in for questioning Wednesday as prosecutors moved to have a technical review of the computer and the camera aboard the Enrica Lexie merchant ship from where the shooting took place. Italy is refusing to hand the marines over to an Indian court for a homicide trial after the pair was granted a four-week travel permit to vote in Italian elections last month. It was the second such good-faith permit. India gave a similar waiver during the Christmas season, after which the pair returned. Both times the men had signed a form vowing to return for trial. After the announcement last week the men would remain in Italy, the Indian Supreme Court ordered the Italian ambassador there not to leave the country while officials voiced their consternation and pledged to explore all diplomatic and legal options to bring the marines back to trial. On Wednesday Prime Minister Manmohan Singh called Italy's behavior "unacceptable" and said it "casts a shadow" over the two countries' relations. Italy has long argued that the marines, who allegedly mistook fishermen Jelestine Valentine and Ajesh Binki for pirates, should not be tried in India as the incident took place in international waters. Italy has also called for an international arbitrator to assess the case. In the meantime prosecutors here are moving ahead with their own investigation. The camera and computer aboard the ship where the incident took place are expected to provide details of the case previously unavailable to Italian authorities. "The conversations between the captain and the marines, as well as communications with Italian authorities, are recorded on that computer," said Rome prosecutors in a statement Wednesday. "As for the camera, images are recorded there of what was believed to be a possible attack from pirates, as are the reactions of the marines". Prosecutors also quoted the sailors testimony in their statement, which contradicts accusations from India. The men said they "shot seven to eight rounds in the sea to discourage the approach of a ship that was different from the one showed by Indian authorities". Rome prosecutors said the images from the camera may prove what kind of ship was involved. Even if the marines did kill the fishermen, high-ranking Italian military have defended their actions as following proper protocol in territory known for pirate attacks. "Our officers did what they had to do to protect the merchant ship," said Admiral Giuseppe De Giorgi, the supreme commander of the Italian marines. "A judge must decide whether what they did corresponds with the law, but we're confident".
Marines questioned as Rome probes into India case - GazzettaDelSud
Rome, March 20 - Rome prosecutors are moving forward in their probe into two Italian marines who allegedly shot two Indian fishermen on another vessel off the coast of India one year ago. The case, which has opened an international dispute between Indian and Italy, brought Massimiliano Latorre and Salvatore Girone in for questioning Wednesday as prosecutors moved to have a technical review of the computer and the camera aboard the Enrica Lexie merchant ship from where the shooting took place. Italy is refusing to hand the marines over to an Indian court for a homicide trial after the pair was granted a four-week travel permit to vote in Italian elections last month. It was the second such good-faith permit. India gave a similar waiver during the Christmas season, after which the pair returned. Both times the men had signed a form vowing to return for trial. After the announcement last week the men would remain in Italy, the Indian Supreme Court ordered the Italian ambassador there not to leave the country while officials voiced their consternation and pledged to explore all diplomatic and legal options to bring the marines back to trial. On Wednesday Prime Minister Manmohan Singh called Italy's behavior "unacceptable" and said it "casts a shadow" over the two countries' relations. Italy has long argued that the marines, who allegedly mistook fishermen Jelestine Valentine and Ajesh Binki for pirates, should not be tried in India as the incident took place in international waters. Italy has also called for an international arbitrator to assess the case. In the meantime prosecutors here are moving ahead with their own investigation. The camera and computer aboard the ship where the incident took place are expected to provide details of the case previously unavailable to Italian authorities. "The conversations between the captain and the marines, as well as communications with Italian authorities, are recorded on that computer," said Rome prosecutors in a statement Wednesday. "As for the camera, images are recorded there of what was believed to be a possible attack from pirates, as are the reactions of the marines". Prosecutors also quoted the sailors testimony in their statement, which contradicts accusations from India. The men said they "shot seven to eight rounds in the sea to discourage the approach of a ship that was different from the one showed by Indian authorities". Rome prosecutors said the images from the camera may prove what kind of ship was involved. Even if the marines did kill the fishermen, high-ranking Italian military have defended their actions as following proper protocol in territory known for pirate attacks. "Our officers did what they had to do to protect the merchant ship," said Admiral Giuseppe De Giorgi, the supreme commander of the Italian marines. "A judge must decide whether what they did corresponds with the law, but we're confident".
Marines questioned as Rome probes into India case - GazzettaDelSud
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This thread is not about Pakistan.You are off topic, Sir!
So the the whole thing will unfold tomorrow.
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LOL indeed, pity the trolls.
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give the thread some rest now...lol.
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